kaihaider
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and yet they are still the extreme minority. a few percent of millions of people is still a lot of people...
Sense of Botting (Gold) after RMAH release! Gold is worhtless. Tell your opinion!
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and yet they are still the extreme minority. a few percent of millions of people is still a lot of people...
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, a lot of people do. Supply of RMAH gear greatly exceeds demand though. A vast majority of people will always only be willing to pay gold for gear.
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*200k/h
kaihaider
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that comment makes no sense :S
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Yes, MF I mean.
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Meh, I think you are wrong. Why farm for an item for five hours, while you could work for five hours and buy the item + have even money left.
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Because you are playing a game and fighting elites is supposed to be what's fun?
If the value of gold diminishes the value of items will go up. You will make more money on crafting materials and crafting, right now for instance you can barely make back the crafting cost of an exalted grand chest armor. But if 1 USD = 1 million, and a good craft is worth 30 USD or even 30 millions. Then you can craft 250+ chestpieces for the same amount as it would cost you to buy one good one. And trust me crafting that many you'll at least get 15-20 incredible ones.
And also, remember that right now there are a lot of people that have been waiting like crazy for the RMAH, planning to finally gear up their characters that they don't really have time to play. There's also people buying items on normal AH, selling on RMAH, rebuying gold and buying out on normal AH again. And there's also lots of botters / gold farmers that have stocked up hundreds of millions of gold they wish to unload all at the same time. Honestly, a little bit of crazyness is to be expected. And a lot of the gold sold now comes from scripts such as royal crypts that is now nerfed. And after the 1.0.3 patch we will see a much higher influx of top tier items and so on and so on and so on. I'm not overly worried.
And lastly, it also deserves a mention that the 15% cut is enormeous, and will probably a lot of it will be spendt on tracking massive retailers and the flow of money. If 1 person is selling 100 millions from each of a 100 accounts and the money all culminates in one spot. Then he is also very likely to be banned for this and not recieve his money.
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a 100 watt lightbulb running a month costs you 11$ (assuming a price of 0.15$ per kilowatt hour). Modern PC's break the 200 Watt/h consumption rate under heavy load easily. Those 2 external electricity plugs in most GPU's nowadays isn't for show you know.
Especially when you think about e.g. a full running bot machine with a couple of copies running on it you will see it on your bill.
However I don't think, that blizzard will allow the goldprice to fall to 1$ per mil, they can't allow it. If inflation is too big, then there is no way a newcomer can get into the AH without some heavy dropluck to get started, they won't be able to farm 15 million gold or whatever inflated goldprice a piece of garbage shit might cost at that time.
Time will tell how they combat that, but those 4x-6x repaircost don't even scratch a dent into the goldproduction of all players.
Maybe if crafting becomes the way to get the very best gear they could artificially create a heavy goldsink or as an example by reusing the D2 ladder system.
Concerning the Paypal thing and single transaction via blizzard: I read several times through the german guidelines by blizzard. There is absolutely no indication, that you can stockpile your money and send it in one go. The only thing you can accumulate is that Blizzard Gold (Blizzard currency), which you actually can't even send to paypal at all anymore.
There is also an upper limit on that blizzard currency, which may at no point exceed 600$, by then you can only send your money directly to paypal and I doubt they would create another "moneyholder" to save you costs at this point the chances are good, that they don't even care about what amount we have to pay to paypal.
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Mate I had no intention of "getting you". It sucks for me as much as it does for you. The lower the prices drop the harder %wise we lose to those nuts that do even less then we do. Paypal are botters like we are for the most part.
maybe we should rally a competition, not like we don't have hundreds of accounts that can post at our disposal hahahahahaha.
maybe we should rally a competition, not like we don't have hundreds of accounts that can post at our disposal hahahahahaha.
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What the frack are you paying for your electrical rates? Either way.
1 x Power for PC 1 year days -300$
3 x D3 Accounts - 160$
1 x 3DB lifetime - 75$
If you can not over the period of 3 months make back your 500$ investment. You do need to go find a real 9-5 Job scrubbing toilets at McDonalds.
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My predictions -
RMAH is inflated atm only very few people paying for stuff
Gold will make a combat due to the fact that people won't want to pay blizzards 15% real money + $1 fee
RMAH is inflated atm only very few people paying for stuff
Gold will make a combat due to the fact that people won't want to pay blizzards 15% real money + $1 fee
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Gold is not $1/million its about $5/million US softcore atm
You are so ridiculous, let's have a go at real electricity component shall we?
321 Watt <-- this is the number an i7 (very efficient ) with a gtx 560 will consume per hour, just playing crysis. The biggest amount of voltage will be drain by the CPU, so let's hope here, that crysis is CPU intense or I would be even worse off.
In germany 1 kilowatt hour costs 0,22 ?. those 321 Watt are 0,321 kWatt so we do:
0,321*0,22*24*30,4375 for an average month = 51,58 ? Without monitor, which you might want. So yes, very very cheap and while you have your imaginary 300$, i have the very real 600? per year.
So now let's go further with your assumption of 1$=1 million and just say 1? = 1 million to keep currencies consistent.
A sale of 1 million would generate me as shown earlier after blizzard and paypal 0,51 ? ( to be fair sales of 2 million/3/4 would be more profitable due to paypal eating a large chunk as it is even more in europe btw )
4 accounts on that PC, let's assume 300k per hour per account therefor generate 1.2 million gold per hour.
1,2/hour * 24 * 30 = 864 millions per month not counting maintenance, malfunctions to compensate for the earlier unfairness of assuming we always sell in stacks of 1 mil.
I also assume a so heavily botted account will vanish after a month and add another purchase(not counting the rebuy of goldgear)
Assuming 45? per copy: that's 180 ? additional cost, we also don't deduct the releveling time here so now let's put it all into a number:
864million gold will be 864*0,51? on our paypal: 440?
-180? for repurchase: 260
-51? electricity ( btw this is more then 10% of what we would actually earn, so much to "little"): 209?.
If you now start to deduct goldcost for new gear and days of releveling, maintenance and stuff that number will shrink(while for maintenance your electricity would also drop to 1/3 during that duration if we assume complete idling.
So actually calculating in favor of profits, it would be time to say doomsday when we hit 1:1 ratio. Especially when they start to catch faster then 1/month.
Edit for eddie: Of course that calculation holds nothing for now. It is worth way more. I just wanted to point out, that it won't automatically stay profitable just because it is automatically generated.
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its 5$ per 1mln for ppl who wants to BUY from chineese or do chineesy PAY 5$ for each mln You sell them ?