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Question: D3 website tracking?

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If I am on demonbuddy forums and I use the same tab to go to diablos website, can they track my cookies and see my last webpage I've looked at and link it to my battle.net account?
 
The privacy law is very strong they are also not allowed to scan your computer Terms of use are bullshit and not legal in anyway
 
Heh, that's a little crazy now...

Your presence on DB forum does not have to mean you are botting.
Going this way you can expect lawsuit if you are browsing TPB and enter some government page or something.
Don't get paranoid people.
 
Teetees said:
If I am on demonbuddy forums and I use the same tab to go to diablos website, can they track my cookies and see my last webpage I've looked at and link it to my battle.net account?
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Blizzard is not NSA. Don't worry, it's all in your head.
 
No, but I tell you what they CAN do.

They can use your IP that you log into the game with and then track what web-sites you're coming to theirs from.


IE.

Someone posts a build on these forums using the blizzard skill calculator and you click on it. They can tell that you followed the link from this web-site. It's how a lot of marketing is done.
 
Xalyx said:
That would never happen. A program cannot operate outside of its own process and memory, in order for a program to detect other processes it would pop up on every virus scanner. This is why game companies never do that because thats trojan behavior.

Programs are like children grounded in their rooms. The process is their room, once they step outside of the room thats when they come up as viruses.
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This is a fantastic explanation!
 
Xalyx said:
That would never happen. A program cannot operate outside of its own process and memory, in order for a program to detect other processes it would pop up on every virus scanner. This is why game companies never do that because thats trojan behavior.

Programs are like children grounded in their rooms. The process is their room, once they step outside of the room thats when they come up as viruses.
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Misinformation everywhere! Programs are not a virtual machine. Just look at DemonBuddy? Try it for yourself, make a program that uses ReadProcessMemory() and see if your antivirus detects it.

Basically, yes... they CAN illegally do that. No, they WILL NOT as they would get in a lot of trouble (nor do they care enough).

/thread.
 
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sychotix said:
Misinformation everywhere! Programs are not a virtual machine. Just look at DemonBuddy? Try it for yourself, make a program that uses ReadProcessMemory() and see if your antivirus detects it.

Basically, yes... they CAN illegally do that. No, they WILL NOT as they would get in a lot of trouble (nor do they care enough).

/thread.
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He never stated that they were "virtual machine"(which im assuming you're thinking of sandboxed) .. but legally (as he is referring to) an application is unable (although it very well can) read outside of its own memory space. He is not saying that bound by laws of programming that it is impossible to do, but by governed laws, its not legal to do.. I fail to see any misinformation that was mentioned in his post..
 
Yasuko said:
He never stated that they were "virtual machine"(which im assuming you're thinking of sandboxed) .. but legally (as he is referring to) an application is unable (although it very well can) read outside of its own memory space. He is not saying that bound by laws of programming that it is impossible to do, but by governed laws, its not legal to do.. I fail to see any misinformation that was mentioned in his post..
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You are giving him far too much credit =P And virtual machine, sandbox... same idea. Neither can access the outside world. And also, by that logic, all antivirus software is illegal. Trust me, I have a Comp Sci degree... I know a bit about computers.

Regardless, not worth arguing.
 
What has been said is utter rubbish. Programs that are not even ran as admin can list all programs your running just fine provided the process its looking at is not actually running as an admin its self. However Blizzard are not allowed to do this as they've been spanked for it before.

If you really want me to I'll write up a small application to prove this concept.
 
omg. that stupid questions

answer: it's impossible to read your cookies from another website
 
The answer is a very much yes they can. Almost every website uses analytics (mainly Google Analytics). Via Google Analytics, for example, you can view the source page that lead the user to your website. This happens in situations when the link is mentioned on the page you are comming from, if so, the source URL is 100% registered in Google Analytics.

If for instance, someone would place a link to the diablo or battlenet page and you would click on it, that will be send to the Google Analytics API (javascript implemented on the page you are going to). How come you ask? Well, look at the source code of http://www.thebuddyforum.com/ and you shall find Google Analytics javascript code being embedded to every page.

Et voila. If blizzard is smart and you would click on a link to someone's mage or crusader build for example and you would get redirected to diablo3.* then they would know that you are interested in Botting.
 
Ludaro said:
The answer is a very much yes they can. Almost every website uses analytics (mainly Google Analytics). Via Google Analytics, for example, you can view the source page that lead the user to your website.
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That has nothing to do with google analytics, web browsers just send the "where did I come from" (referrer) information with every request by default. Easiest way to bypass it (should you care) without installing browser extensions to disable it is to just copy link, open a new tab and paste it there, then browser won't send the information.

Also, entering battle.net from buddy forums means nothing. You could just have googled something and end up here, be curious about what builds botters use, wondering what happens on botting forums, be tempted by botting without botting yourself, ... And Blizzard won't do anything about it, just like your local police won't arrest you for theft just because you're looking a bit too much at something expensive you can't afford.
 
scifi said:
omg. that stupid questions

answer: it's impossible to read your cookies from another website
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Untrue, I can do it right now if I imbed something into a webpage that asks to be installed and you click "yes" like most stupid people do when they get viruses. If i can GET the cookies from you, hur hur, then they're mine to read if they have a popular layout and configuration.


That being said, it is still illegal for Blizzard to do so as they've already gotten in trouble once for it.
 
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