[Query] Grind-Profile-Plugin, should it be kept private?

[j0achim]

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Some of you might know that I've been working on a Grind-Profile-Plugin project for some time. But there is not really any clarity if its "right" if its released.



So whats the idea with this?

The basic idea is making grinding a automated task, and not a day worth of research on the forum for the "perfect" profile. No matter where you are or what level you are. (ofc trying to start a lvl 1 in Northrend, Outlands... would fail) [Read more about features further down.]


How does this work?

A small plugin will tell my web-server its Location, Level, Faction and ContinentID. A script on the web-server then make a profile most suiting your character depending on the factors given.

Heres a small scenario, i make a new character a Orc Hunter, i then start the bot, bot then tells the server I am a lvl 1 character, Im located in Kalmidor, and i am in the starting area (would actually tell It It's X,Y and Z location). Now server replies with a profile. It has several profiles for Kalmidor, and there are several profiles for a lvl 1. But It will pick the profile which is closest distance from my location. So it replies with a profile in the orc starting area.

Further down the road i plan to expand this idea with having additional filters so which a profile found would also suit your character depending on its class, profession etc.. [Read more about technical information further down.]


Do you make the profiles in the database?

No, i do not make the profiles in the database. I use a process called xml-parse where then all "required" data is then transfered to a database where its all tied together. I view profiles as "open source" if you willingly share it without any form to license, i can do whatever i like with it. I have not read any concrete laws about this otherwise. However i do understand the ethical perspective, which is why I made this thread in the first place.


So basically you are stealing other peoples work?

No, its not about stealing, if a profile-writer do not want their profile in this database i remove it, by default a profile author is credited by the name of the original name of the profile + its name. A example would be "Profile loaded: Orc 1-3 [Author: j0achim]" and a few lines in the profile as commented text. Every profile will include, thread where i found the profile. Original Author. Misc...

A disclaimer is provided in a profile stating that i have not made the profile and that its only stored in the database and "recreated" to include, original author, mailbox, vendor, protected items, etc...


Features

• Level filtering
• Location filtering
• Continent filtering
• Side filtering (horde/alliance)
• Vendor filtering
• Mailbox filtering
• Protected Items filtering

These are the current filters i have already implemented. And I've briefly tested the plugin and it performs as intended, i leveled 5 hunters 1 - 19, and a few high lvl chars 50, 60, 70 and it performs nicely.


Technical Information
Back-end is a Apache web-server running PHP and MySQL, profiles are parsed with a PHP script using DOM object. The Honorbuddy plugin itself downloads profile generated by server then loads it. This happens on events such as level-up and when bot is started.

As you might understand i fully respect other peoples work and i do not want to come here and make any drama. If this is not wanted i wont release it.



If you vote anything but Yes and Dont care, please reply to this thread and be objective why it should not be released.



Yours sincerely
j0achim

 

[Nab]

Well it looks very usefull, I just don't like letting a plugin download something from a non HB-staff server.

 

[Tony]

its a yes ofc

 

[collinetnick]

Yes, but i have a temp ban from grinding. make it anyways tho.

 

[cawpet]

A yes from me. Also, nice work .

 

[xvampx]

looks very nice

i have profiles (grind) for almost any race/class from lvl 1 to 85. you can use them if you want ^^

i like the idea

 

[Anduril]

Whooops, didn't read the vote and thought it was about if it should be released, so I clicked Yes. It is a No of course, I am of the opinion you should release this, because it sounds very promising. The only thing I "fear" is that it could get a bit to stereotypical, always using the same profiles.
But yeah, release it, i wouldn't see why not!

 

[abndrew82]

I think it would be a great addition. Nice way to save a little time when loading up a new character

 

[newcharacter]

I'm sure most of the people who are voting or will vote are jumping the gun a bit here and have clicked Yes instead of No. Keep that in mind!

I see no reason for you not to release this plugin

 

[j0achim]

Well it looks very usefull, I just don't like letting a plugin download something from a non HB-staff server.

Let me clarify, it sends a string similar to my example to the server:

http://server.address.com/generatexml.php?level=62&class=mage&continent=1&x=321&y=100&z=45

If we now analyze what this means:

Level = level of your character.
Class = Class of your character.
Continent = Which continent your character is currently on.
X,Y,Z = Your character location.


Server then just echoes a page in XML format. which is saved by the plugin then loaded. If a xml is not properly formated HB would warn/stop if it is not able to run it. And the plugin itself is open for everyone to view as it runs barely 20 lines of code.

 

[xvampx]

to all the people that say it should get released... i dunno.
i dont mind keeping this private. or even handed out to a select few for that case. it seems like a nice plugin but nothing you cant do yourself by making your own profile or even for the lazy ones download one from the forums.

 

[j0achim]

I've sent a message to tony asking him to reset the poll and change the question to something else.

 

[Tony]

I've sent a message to tony asking him to reset the poll and change the question to something else.

there is no option to reset it

results swapped
and question changed

 

[j0achim]

Thanks.

 

[cawpet]

So who are the 2 no's now? . Because I sure as hell didn't want it releasing tbh.

It's a great plugin, and for that reason, I want it to stay that way.. I think it'd need changes before being handed out to the public if it were to cater for such a large community. That & illegal users got it, which they would, making the user base even larger.

 

[Klovnene]

One feature that would be cool to be added, is also if u want to farm in rep, u just pick the rep and it will pick the most suitable profile for that rep grinding ;D im a rep whore ;D

 

[atg68]

should be released, yes.. sounds like a neat idea.

 

[Mannyste]

Whooops, didn't read the vote and thought it was about if it should be released, so I clicked Yes. It is a No of course, I am of the opinion you should release this, because it sounds very promising. The only thing I "fear" is that it could get a bit to stereotypical, always using the same profiles.
But yeah, release it, i wouldn't see why not!

yea this springs to my mind when i think about tthe plugin

ppl using it will be using the same profile

will you be able to upload your own profiles to a server?
will a random profile picking function be intergrated into the plugin?

and taking out the MIDDLE MAN ( honorbuddy website) where we have to come and look for a profile download it and load it.. sometimes ppl who make profiles do a little bit of information about the actual profile. maybe if your plugin finds a desired profile to use for the Consumers criteria there will be some AUTHORs information regarding the profile (PUT SOME GOOD GEAR ON COZ THESE MURLOCKS HIT LIKE IVAN DRAGO) in a seperate window.

i say release it

 

[dayloon]

If you've got something which is going to benefit the community who on earth is going to vote no? Bit of a silly poll

 

[iesux]

If you've got something which is going to benefit the community who on earth is going to vote no? Bit of a silly poll

a bit harsh I would say. His question regards how we think should be somehow the "licence " of a profile and if he should freely use them into his plugin.

on the topic: sharing is caring