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[PAID] [Priest] Insanity - An Advanced Honorbuddy Shadow Priest Routine [PvE/PvP]
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Anytime you make a purchase, it has to be under the MAIN Honorbuddy login. So, if this is your friend's HB that you're using, then you'll have to log into your friend's HB store and purchase it there, then you can use it under the shared HB.
I see now what the issue is. When switching aoe units from 4 to 3, he stops casting mind blast totally. I have no raid at the moment, but this is on the dummys on the terrace. The thing is, i want to use Sear as a filler instead of Flay when there are 3 or more mobs/targets. If i set aoe to 4 or more, he wont cast sear, but instead he casts flay as a filler and Mind Blast on cd. If i set to 3, he will cast sear, but not blast. Why he wont cast sear on the dummys at 4 or more targets i have no idea, as there are 4 dummys.
Here is a log.
Here is a log.
Well, the CR isn't set up to use Mind Sear as a filler when you're reaching the AoE count. I'm not really sure why you want to do that though as the optimal multi-target to AoE "rotation" would be to dot up all targets in rage and continue with the regular priority against your current target, until at least 4 mobs are within range, then you stop and just keep dots up and Mind Sear. This gives a lot more DPET than replacing Mind Flay with Mind Sear, even more so if you've got Solace & Insanity as your level 45 talent. (Which you should have in 95% of the fights in SoO anyway.)
Moreover, with about 4 resets left of Siege of Orgrimmar, I think Millz's time is better spent on adapting the CR towards 6.0/6.0.1 which will come very soon.
Moreover, with about 4 resets left of Siege of Orgrimmar, I think Millz's time is better spent on adapting the CR towards 6.0/6.0.1 which will come very soon.
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i added the free version but it will not show up when i start honorbuddy. but the 2 day free trial will :/
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The whole DoTManager thing is wrong. If you actually read that properly, to make the most out of re-dotting, you need to go over each of them one by one, and account for your trinkets.
The first "column" time needs to be the time between 2 of your ticks. Since refreshing dots between the last tick and the pick before that is not a DPS nor a GCD loss since they update dynamically, you just need to put the time between 2 ticks for both of the dots here.
2nd column is your dot duration, which you check in game, agreed on that.
For the DoT% power increase, you need to check your trinkets & weapons procs with AffDots, see how much% of an increse it is to have them up over your current DoT, and reflect that value over in this setting. If you happen to have a BboY, you need to take the power value at 7 stacks. (or 5, if you have 3orbs up, but that's not coded currently, so yeah)
You also want to run DI instead of PI on Juggernaut, and pray RNG god. PI is a waste with the amount of haste we have. Same on normal malk (HC stay with ToF). Oh, or fully ToF on malk f you know how to use the swap gear-renew-perma ToF "exploit"
And spoils, if your group is opening shitloads of boxes for fun, Mindbender+ToF are king.
Oh, and @Kasamaka, I'm just stating my opinion, feel free to understand it or not. I'm ranked under 200 on all, and under 100 on most, HC bosses in SoO, using Insanity. And I know that it's impossible without proper settings for each bosses according to your group strategy. And that's just never going to happen with pre-made profile. Sure they'll be better than defaults, but still not fully optimized, and that's how I like to roll.
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I used to cast SWP when moving, but found that it just wasted too much mana and ultimately made us go oom much quicker than just leaving it to tick out until it's normal refresh time.
I might add it back in for WoD, but need to see how it goes once it goes live.
It does stop using Mind Blast when the high aoe rotation begins (i.e. mind sear), but you're correct that at 3 units it should keep the standard rotation going. It's missing that half way point. It's a quick change to put in I think, will have a look.
Is it enabled under 'My Purchases'? The background next to the product should be green. You should only enable the free or premium versions - not both.
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haha you just confused the shit out of me XD. im new to priest never rly used them before. i was hoping someone had a decent pve dps set up for this i could use since im not to familure with it
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Hey just got this routine, i have your demonic premium and really liked it so i decide to get your priest and soon your mage.
I am having a problem tho some times between 2 way point or a way point an a mob it will like stutter walk between to 2 points instead of smooth walk
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Smoth _______________
Stutter _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Not sure why im getting this issue.
I am having a problem tho some times between 2 way point or a way point an a mob it will like stutter walk between to 2 points instead of smooth walk
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Smoth _______________
Stutter _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Not sure why im getting this issue.
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Hi Millz
Just wondering if you are planning adding dot weaving when using clarity of power combined when with swi for the rotation in WoD it's looking like being the de-facto raiding/dungon rotation.
Been testing it for a few weeks now and getting double devouring plague and stringing out mfi is very powerful.
Just wondering if you are planning adding dot weaving when using clarity of power combined when with swi for the rotation in WoD it's looking like being the de-facto raiding/dungon rotation.
Been testing it for a few weeks now and getting double devouring plague and stringing out mfi is very powerful.
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the stutter thing, i had that happen to me a lot with CCs, and what i personally think was the issue there is when targeting was turned on in the CC and the profile was trying to target something different.
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Hey - I'd need a log file to see what was going on with that.
Will see what it's like when it goes live. They keep tuning classes at the moment so something which is good now may not be good in 6.0.2 when it's actually released.
I keep looking at simcraft's action list for shadow priests and dying a little inside:
https://code.google.com/p/simulatio...s/Tier17N/Priest_Shadow_T17N_AS.simc?name=wod
https://code.google.com/p/simulatio.../Tier17N/Priest_Shadow_T17N_COP.simc?name=wod
https://code.google.com/p/simulatio...s/Tier17N/Priest_Shadow_T17N_VE.simc?name=wod
Class balance is a bit poor at the moment too:
Mythic: Simulationcraft Results
Heroic: Simulationcraft Results
Normal: http://downloads.simulationcraft.org/t17n-raid-9-26-14-b4f9.html
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Simcraft is pointless atm as the api for each class is still being worked on so take it with a very large grain of salt. look at arcane for example it's very low yet in beta it's turning out to be top spec for mages and warlocks are destroying everything
you are far better looking at raid logs of guilds doing beta to get a better idea and you will see that shadow is doing quiet well.
@Eckhaert: Through testing on my own and through clearing Heroic farm I actually found out that if I did as you describe, I'd lose DOT uptime as the CR itself focuses heavily on SO generation (which it should, 99% of the time) making my uptimes drop from >90-95 to barely reaching ~85% (This example is from a semi-recent log on Iron Juggernaut using S&I) but I agree, that's how it should be done normally.
Again, the DOT Power % is a tricky bit to properly explain as your trinkets, racial buffs and raid strategy plays a heavy role. Praying to RNGjesus won't help much. (For example, my BBoY always seem to proc at the worst possible times and always alone.)
My intention for the DoT Manager part was to give the uneducated an introduction to optimizing their DPS with the 2 resets we have left before 6.0 hits and invalidates most of the guide. I thought I mentioned that at the top of my post but I see that I didn't so I'll add it to the top of it.
My reasoning for going with PI over DI for Juggernaut is solely because how the CR is coded; you're able to squeeze out 13-14 ticks of MFI, refresh your dots twice and get off 2 Mind Blasts while PI is active which gives you some pretty good sustainable DPS and increased burst.
I might be a bit biased on going with that talent as my guild kills Iron Juggernaut in just over 2:30 every week which gives it a much more value than DI.
I do agree with what you're saying about talents though, though that does boil down to raid strategy/gear in the end.
I intend though to continue the trend of keeping an updated guide for every tier in WoD.
@Millz & dilbog: Ah, yeah. COP weaving will definitively be strong in WoD for Shadow. Tehy're still tuning stuff on the beta it seems as far as Priests go but with all the raid testing that I've been doing with my guild (REM) I can definitively say that Shadow will be in the top-mid pack of the casters. This can change quickly right before launch or a week or two into WoD though so, there's that. I think the best thing currently is getting the base "rotation" down while keeping an eye out on the level 100 talents and adjust accordingly.
Again, the DOT Power % is a tricky bit to properly explain as your trinkets, racial buffs and raid strategy plays a heavy role. Praying to RNGjesus won't help much. (For example, my BBoY always seem to proc at the worst possible times and always alone.)
My intention for the DoT Manager part was to give the uneducated an introduction to optimizing their DPS with the 2 resets we have left before 6.0 hits and invalidates most of the guide. I thought I mentioned that at the top of my post but I see that I didn't so I'll add it to the top of it.
My reasoning for going with PI over DI for Juggernaut is solely because how the CR is coded; you're able to squeeze out 13-14 ticks of MFI, refresh your dots twice and get off 2 Mind Blasts while PI is active which gives you some pretty good sustainable DPS and increased burst.
I might be a bit biased on going with that talent as my guild kills Iron Juggernaut in just over 2:30 every week which gives it a much more value than DI.
I do agree with what you're saying about talents though, though that does boil down to raid strategy/gear in the end.
I intend though to continue the trend of keeping an updated guide for every tier in WoD.
@Millz & dilbog: Ah, yeah. COP weaving will definitively be strong in WoD for Shadow. Tehy're still tuning stuff on the beta it seems as far as Priests go but with all the raid testing that I've been doing with my guild (REM) I can definitively say that Shadow will be in the top-mid pack of the casters. This can change quickly right before launch or a week or two into WoD though so, there's that. I think the best thing currently is getting the base "rotation" down while keeping an eye out on the level 100 talents and adjust accordingly.
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