[PAID] [Priest] Insanity - An Advanced Honorbuddy Shadow Priest Routine [PvE/PvP]

[Millz]

Force Combat in ON, but a need to click the keyboard to do the frist attack....
Is that correct?

Rgds.

With force combat enabled, it should just attack as soon as you select a valid target (in range, LoS etc).

Are there any user-made routines as with Demonic, your wlock cr, like t16 guide etc, explaining which abilities to check etc, or is the premade PvE setting best?

Thanks

There aren't sorry. The default settings should be a good place to get you started. The main thing you'll need to configure is the DoT settings depending on how your mana goes and what raiding tier you're at (for minimum HP values).

 

[mackan]

Plenty of bosses are more and more heading towards standing still and nuke as gear is getting better and now more easy accessible. I see in a lot of fights that Mind Blast have low priority (isn't being cast for 20+ seconds sometimes, even on single target.) I strongly believe that MB will rise our dps. I dont mind helping you out and test if you need.

 

[Millz]

Plenty of bosses are more and more heading towards standing still and nuke as gear is getting better and now more easy accessible. I see in a lot of fights that Mind Blast have low priority (isn't being cast for 20+ seconds sometimes, even on single target.) I strongly believe that MB will rise our dps. I dont mind helping you out and test if you need.

Mind Blast has a high priority. I'll need a log file for this. Can you try it out standing still vs a target dummy to re-create the problem please?

Cheers

 

[mackan]

I will provide a log the next time. But the two fights i really noticed it was Thok and Garrosh and when checking between me and another spriest recount, clearly, his MB was first or second on the list of most damage, way higher than my MB which was down at 5th of highest damage spells. His total damage done was higher too, with pretty similar gear.

 

[Millz]

I will provide a log the next time. But the two fights i really noticed it was Thok and Garrosh and when checking between me and another spriest recount, clearly, his MB was first or second on the list of most damage, way higher than my MB which was down at 5th of highest damage spells. His total damage done was higher too, with pretty similar gear.

Are your talent builds the same? If you aren't moving, it should be using MB as soon as it's off CD.

 

[Kasamaka]

hey millz ,do we have any 25M hc pve settings for SP like we have for locks? by anyone of ur users maby plz?
plz i really need it asap , thanks

 

[zeldrak]

hey millz ,do we have any 25M hc pve settings for SP like we have for locks? by anyone of ur users maby plz?
plz i really need it asap , thanks

I haven't used my SPriest in a while, mainly because I switched her to Disc, but I don't believe there are any settings files included like that. If I'm not mistaken, there are only three settings files included: 1) PvP, 2) PvE (i.e. scenarios, raiding, heroic dungeons, etc), 3) Questing. I know it's going to be a difficult thing to do, but you will have to ask in the thread and hope that someone will post their settings for heroic raiding. There are only a very small handful of people that do this, and even less that make guides, but maybe someone will help out. The best thing to do is read up on your class and figure out what needs to be done while raiding, then try to mirror that in the routine's settings.

Check out some of the top shadow priest raiders and try to mimic their setup (i.e. glyphs and talents). Read Icy Veins, check out howtopriest.com, and do some Google searching on shadow priest heroic playstyles. The information is out there; you just have to look for it. I know that doesn't help you immediately, but it will help you in the long run.

 

[Kasamaka]

I haven't used my SPriest in a while, mainly because I switched her to Disc, but I don't believe there are any settings files included like that. If I'm not mistaken, there are only three settings files included: 1) PvP, 2) PvE (i.e. scenarios, raiding, heroic dungeons, etc), 3) Questing. I know it's going to be a difficult thing to do, but you will have to ask in the thread and hope that someone will post their settings for heroic raiding. There are only a very small handful of people that do this, and even less that make guides, but maybe someone will help out. The best thing to do is read up on your class and figure out what needs to be done while raiding, then try to mirror that in the routine's settings.

Check out some of the top shadow priest raiders and try to mimic their setup (i.e. glyphs and talents). Read Icy Veins, check out howtopriest.com, and do some Google searching on shadow priest heroic playstyles. The information is out there; you just have to look for it. I know that doesn't help you immediately, but it will help you in the long run.

ty m8 for answering, but did u switch to disc because of the SP isn't made that good? because sp can top many fights,such as "Viklund" his one of the top SP players in wow PVE ofc , but again if millz , or anyone that uses SP for 25M hc pve , am not asking for pvp or questing or talent or reforge just if some1 plays sp atm in pve 25M hc and uses a setting that would like to share, thanks.

 

[zeldrak]

ty m8 for answering, but did u switch to disc because of the SP isn't made that good? because sp can top many fights,such as "Viklund" his one of the top SP players in wow PVE ofc , but again if millz , or anyone that uses SP for 25M hc pve , am not asking for pvp or questing or talent or reforge just if some1 plays sp atm in pve 25M hc and uses a setting that would like to share, thanks.

No, I didn't switch because the routine wasn't good. The routine is great. I just wanted to go a different direction with my priest. I was tired of playing shadow, and I was tired of waiting in the 45+ minute queues for raids and dungeons, so I switched to Disc healing. It's been a rough switch because my gear isn't Disc friendly, so I burn through mana really, really quickly, but the healing is incredible. I'm sure it would be much better once I am able to get the proper gear for Disc.

As far as settings files go, it's just really hard to get people on the forums to share their settings because what works for one person may not work for you. Settings files are generally very tailored to each individual and their gear, gemming, reforging, and enchants. It's just a very hard thing to share. However, I don't discourage you from asking, and I do wish you luck with possibly getting some settings.

 

[Kasamaka]

No, I didn't switch because the routine wasn't good. The routine is great. I just wanted to go a different direction with my priest. I was tired of playing shadow, and I was tired of waiting in the 45+ minute queues for raids and dungeons, so I switched to Disc healing. It's been a rough switch because my gear isn't Disc friendly, so I burn through mana really, really quickly, but the healing is incredible. I'm sure it would be much better once I am able to get the proper gear for Disc.

As far as settings files go, it's just really hard to get people on the forums to share their settings because what works for one person may not work for you. Settings files are generally very tailored to each individual and their gear, gemming, reforging, and enchants. It's just a very hard thing to share. However, I don't discourage you from asking, and I do wish you luck with possibly getting some settings.

well in locks i used one made by one of the top raiders using millz products and it was great tbf ,i had to edit few things to fit me but it was really good start to go with , and am doing hcs so maby ill find some1 using millz products for hcs aswell not only flex and lfr cause millz products are great tbf but if it was more tested in hcs, loads of stuff would be fixed way faster and better . so maby ill find one that uses sp for good hcs runs and can help me ^^

 

[Eckhaert]

Cleared 14/14 HC multiples times on both 10 and 25 with Insanity premium. However, I won't share any settings, because I do believe that if you're going to do HC with any class, you should know that class well enough to tailor the settings to suit your needs on every bosses yourself.
Point being, read the settings, what they do exactly, check what you need to be doing on different bosses, and adapt accordingly. May be a bit longer at start, but you'll be way more efficient in the long run

 

[Kasamaka]

Cleared 14/14 HC multiples times on both 10 and 25 with Insanity premium. However, I won't share any settings, because I do believe that if you're going to do HC with any class, you should know that class well enough to tailor the settings to suit your needs on every bosses yourself.
Point being, read the settings, what they do exactly, check what you need to be doing on different bosses, and adapt accordingly. May be a bit longer at start, but you'll be way more efficient in the long run

lol like i didn't see anything , in millz warlock CR there is a full page with some1 helping and giving his feed back, and with ur answer am sorry to tell u that ur exp is just LFR and flex, but dunno why ur trying to put ppl down, anyways if any can offer help please do it , no need for immature answers please, am looking for help not for text hero.

 

[Nerakk]

Insanity
Tier 16 - Fight Specific Guide​

I've been reading through this thread on a regular basis, as well as the Portal/Demonic thread and saw the demand for a similar mini-guide that Kink posted for Demonic so I decided to create one for you guys.
I've shamelessly taken all of the graphics for this post from Kink, so kudos on that should go there.


Important notes for Insanity:
To make the routine go as fast as possible without affecting your FPS too much, disable everything that you don't use! That means talents, QoL, Class Abilities, everything. Only enable what you absolutely need.


Configuring proper DoT Manager Settings:
This is meant as a introduction on how to maximize your DPS as there's only about 2 resets left until this whole section is invalidated.
You will also need to edit your refresh times and DOT Power % depending on your gear

To properly configure the DoT refresh timers to your specific playstyle (gems, gear, reforging, etc) it's important that you configure this to optimally refresh your dots to benefit the most from snapshotting. (RIP in WOD)

• When you log-in to the game, make sure that you have no other buffs on you than Shadowform.
• Hover your mouse over Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch. Take note of how long Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch lasts on your target.

For example: My Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch lasts 17.87s and 15.88s respectively.

One important thing to note - Shadow Word: Pain's duration increases as you gain more haste and Vampiric Touch's duration decreases as you gain more haste. Because of this fact, we will always round SWP's and VT's durations down.

• Go into the Insanity Settings and navigate to the "Shadow" tab. You'll find the DoTManager Settings here.
  
  
• On Shadow Word: Pain you want to fill in how long your Shadow Word: Pain lasts before haste procs/buffs.
  Example; Mine lasts for 17.87s, I round that down to get 17s. I then input 17000 into this field.
  
  
• We then do the exact same thins for Vampiric Touch.
  Example; Mine lasts for 15.88s, I round that down to get 15s. I then input 15000 into this field.

These 2 are the most important things that you need to worry about to substantially and effectively increase DPS.



Optimal Glyphs for most of the fights:
Glyph of Mind Flay
Glyph of Vampiric Embrace
Glyph of Inner Sanctum

You can alternatively change Glyph of Inner Sanctum for Glyph of Fade. Fade is not on the GCD, however, it will interrupt your current cast/channel when used. What you can do here is creating a macro to bind it with Shadow Word: Pain and replace it on your bars. This is spamable while moving for example.

#showtooltip Shadow Word: Pain
/cast Fade
/cast Shadow Word: Pain

Optimal opener:
Most guilds use DeadlyBossMods these days, or BigWigs. These both have a "countdown" feature. If your guild/you use this, or simply announce it through VoiceCom, do this manually at the 3-second mark:

- Halo
- Potion + Trinkets
- Mind Blast (This should hit right as the boss is pulled)

The CR will then take over from casting Mind Blast and cast any racials you have if you let it cast automatically, then apply Vampiric Touch, Shadow Word: Pain and cast Shadowfiend.

Boss-specific Talent Choices:
You will find my settings attached at the bottom of the post. I'll keep this updated as things progress and in WOD.

Immerseus
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Adds doesn't live long enough to benefit from other talents.
Time Halo for when small adds spawn and Mind Sear the shit out of them, preferably targeting a melee.

The Fallen Protectors
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Selectable || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: This is a fight where any of our Level 45 talents can be used. I preferably use From Darkness, Comes Light or Solace and Insanity.
Only cast Mass Dispel if your raid/healers require it!

Norushen
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Cascade

Notes: Another crap fight for us. Adds doesn't love long enough to make From Darkness, Comes Light effective.
When you go down to get Purified, save your Cascade for when you're attacking the shielded adds. Will hit all 3 when cast on one from behind.

Sha of Pride
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Time Halo for Self-Reflection adds, use a speed boost on yourself to get far enough away for max damage if you can.

Galakras
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Again, proper Halo usage and Mind Sear is paramount here.

Iron Juggernaut
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Power Infusion / Divine Insight || Halo

Notes: Again, proper Halo usage is paramount here. Make sure PI is used together with Solace & Insanity in Insanity talent settings.

Kor'kon Dark Shaman
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Limit movement as much as you can in this fight. Mind Sear like a god. Again, proper Halo usage is paramount as well.

General Nazgrim
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Limit movement. Optimal Halo usage is paramount.

Malkorok
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Limit movement. Optimal Halo usage is paramount.

Spoils of Pandaria
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Limit movement. Optimal Halo usage is paramount.

Thok the Bloodthirsty
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Divine Insight || Divine Star

Notes: Limit movement. Once the bats spawn on Heroic mode (I forgot if they do on Normal anymore) pop your second potion as they come down for Mind Sear.

Siegecrafter Blackfuse
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark / Spectral Guise || Twist of Fate / Divine Insight || Halo

Notes: Limit movement. You can take Spectral Guise depending on your tactic on this fight to avoid Sawblades and other crap. Again, Optimal Halo usage is key.

Paragons of the Klaxxi
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Spectral Guise || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Limit movement. Spectral Guise to avoid Aim when cast on you. Again, Optimal Halo usage is key.
You can select between Twist of Fate and Divine Insight here, depending on how long Amber Parasites are alive/avoided and so on. They preform about equally anyway.

Garrosh Hellscream
[Normal] & [Heroic]
Solace and Insanity || Angelic Bulwark || Twist of Fate || Halo

Notes: Limit movement. Try and time Halo so you optimally hit as many adds as possible on the pull (use it like 5 seconds into the pull),
then otherwise so you hit as many weapons as possible. (Depends on your strategy.)



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[Kasamaka]

man i loooove u , thats how u find ppl helping and ppl giving u a hard time while the are clueless , love u so much!

 

[Nerakk]

Thanks. I guess it's still better late than never, posting a guide like this.

 

[Kasamaka]

Thanks. I guess it's still better late than never, posting a guide like this.

tbh it was the best thing u do , i spent my time getting answers for bad ppl and each acting like a teacher but just words none even proved any. am sure they will all copy ur work now, i really thank you , ur the best man

 

[Nerakk]

Millz - It's not really a problem per-say as I can pretty much do it manually when moving but it doesn't seem like the profile is casting SWP when moving unless it needs to be refreshed on any targets while moving.

I personally track the power of both dots and I can understand not refreshing a potent Shadow Word: Pain dot on all targets/current target, but when our current dot isn't really that special snowflake that has all our procs/buffs and we're moving, it should spam it. (Maybe have it tied to mana so it spams it if we're moving and above a set % mana level.)

With about ~40 odd days left for WoD launch, it doesn't really matter much right now, but it's still something that you could consider adding going towards WOD as it still has that on-impact damage component.

I dunno what you think about it? Been playing around on the beta most of my time now and only really log in for the 2 odd hours it takes to clear SoO Heroic.

 

[Scrumped]

Hey Millz. Im very interested in this CR. im new to botting all together, before i buy it i was trying to use the free trial. But when i click Obtain for Free. Nothing happens. Please help! thanks

 

[Nerakk]

Hey Millz. Im very interested in this CR. im new to botting all together, before i buy it i was trying to use the free trial. But when i click Obtain for Free. Nothing happens. Please help! thanks

What do you mean, "Nothing happens"? Did you log in to the Buddy Store with your BuddyAuth account? When you click to add the Insanity Trial to your account, it's automatically "streamed" to your Honorbuddy instance when you launch it. When you log in to your Priest and start Honorbuddy, if you have Singular installed it should automatically give you a choice between Insanity and Singular. No need to download anything!

Note: You also have to actually have a Honorbuddy key associated with the account, I found this out the hard way myself. (IE: I had gotten my key from a friend who I no longer have contact with so it was on his account, and I created my own account to get the profiles from BuddyStore).

 

[Scrumped]

What do you mean, "Nothing happens"? Did you log in to the Buddy Store with your BuddyAuth account? When you click to add the Insanity Trial to your account, it's automatically "streamed" to your Honorbuddy instance when you launch it. When you log in to your Priest and start Honorbuddy, if you have Singular installed it should automatically give you a choice between Insanity and Singular. No need to download anything!

Note: You also have to actually have a Honorbuddy key associated with the account, I found this out the hard way myself. (IE: I had gotten my key from a friend who I no longer have contact with so it was on his account, and I created my own account to get the profiles from BuddyStore).

Yea when i log onto HB/WoW i see Singular and GladiatorSuite. But no Insanity..

So my buddy has a 3 session account and he lets me use one. SO your saying i cant use insanity cause i dont have my own account?