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Oracle - Open Beta [CC]

Neqqu said:
Anyway to make Oracle, Holy priest routine, to react faster ?
It seems every time i start Oracle it takes a good long minute to "think" who is on the group and then start working as ment to, then all works as ment to.
Do i need to use that option to "tools" and "Select players to heal" every time i enter to raid or does it automaticly create the list ?
I seem to get, after every trash pack pull", the same list to HB from Oracle that who is healer and who is dps and so on.

And as background, i do use Tyrael, Framelock on at HB, TPS is setted on 100 (havent seen any difference on having it on 0 or 100) and Tyrael has continuos healing on as its ment to be on Oracle usage.

Anything i missed now ?
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I think this has to do with it refreshing some kind of combat list that wulf mentioned earlier in the thread. I think slow computers see this more than faster ones. Before my rig fried Oracle was running with no hiccups at all, a small lag spike when i start HB but that has always been the case for me. And @bennyquest i figured as much but i think 5.4.1 is supported by .697 if the other guy can still use it, otherwise he would not posted his success reverting back. Could be wrong though, all in all ill just have to deal with it lol
 
Hey guys, any tips for using Oracles' Druid CC for proving grounds? It did Bronze - Gold flawlessly without a hitch but at the moment I'm really struggling to get past round 8 or 9 whilst attempting the Endless Healer trials. I have the Class Settings set to those that were provided by Mirabis and I use the Proving Grounds general settings. To my understanding the Druid CC is currently the least developed of the healing classes due to too few testers for it, is it simply not powerful enough to complete the Endless Healer challenges currently or is there a step I'm missing?

Thanks in advance for your replies and thanks again to Wulf for the brilliant Routines!
 
Wulf, just wanted to let you know my pc still struggles with Oracle and the new HB (699). With framelock on@30tps of even 15tps, I barely get 20fps in LFR 25-man. No more real freezes or stutters per se, but just... slow. Using Oracle now without framelock and then I get 30-50fps, so that's ok. It's just that I'm used to having 30-50fps WITH framelock in the good old days, with HB 697...
 
Soeski said:
Wulf, just wanted to let you know my pc still struggles with Oracle and the new HB (699). With framelock on@30tps of even 15tps, I barely get 20fps in LFR 25-man. No more real freezes or stutters per se, but just... slow. Using Oracle now without framelock and then I get 30-50fps, so that's ok. It's just that I'm used to having 30-50fps WITH framelock in the good old days, with HB 697...
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I hate to say this but from the testing we have done. It is really situational. I get FPS loss on my laptop with Oracle doing celestials....not in LFR...on my desktop if i am running three HBs and two oracles and a pure rotation one of the oracles will drop some FPS....but the other won't. I am still yet to determine why some of the newer HBs are doing this....nothing degraded with oracle and we are already squeezing every extra FPS from the routine we can....well not every but a lot more than it was.
 
bennyquest said:
I hate to say this but from the testing we have done. It is really situational. I get FPS loss on my laptop with Oracle doing celestials....not in LFR...on my desktop if i am running three HBs and two oracles and a pure rotation one of the oracles will drop some FPS....but the other won't. I am still yet to determine why some of the newer HBs are doing this....nothing degraded with oracle and we are already squeezing every extra FPS from the routine we can....well not every but a lot more than it was.
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Thanks Benny. It seems to be situational indeed, but there is not 1 single fight in LFR that gives me the same performance as HB 697 did.
In the interest of testing; I tested TUANHA SE (Shaman Resto) and Singular too. Their performance is even worse than Oracle; they both drop below 20fps and become unplayable slow with framelock on.
I can tell that Oracle has been improved as far as possible, because my fps with Oracle is now playable (still mostly below 30) but no more stutters or freezes, just... not fluidly like it was.
As you might know I also completely reinstalled my pc (Windows 8.1) without any other programs than WoW and HB, just to test performance. I can now rule out virus scanners or third party apps as being the culprit.
Also, I tested without addons, lowering the resolution to 1280x800 (normally 1920x1200), lowering all WoW settings to LOW... nothing helps. Still the same fps, so that tells me my pc can handle it. I get the same performance at 1280x800xlow as 1920x1200xhigh.
I just hope that either HB will be improved A LOT performance wise, OR they remove the built-in framelock again. Before that, using the Tyrael framelock in my case, performance was perfect. There was no need to change it as far as I'm concerned. And because of 5.4.1 patch I cannot go back to 697 anymore :(
 
Soeski said:
Thanks Benny. It seems to be situational indeed, but there is not 1 single fight in LFR that gives me the same performance as HB 697 did.
In the interest of testing; I tested TUANHA SE (Shaman Resto) and Singular too. Their performance is even worse than Oracle; they both drop below 20fps and become unplayable slow with framelock on.
I can tell that Oracle has been improved as far as possible, because my fps with Oracle is now playable (still mostly below 30) but no more stutters or freezes, just... not fluidly like it was.
As you might know I also completely reinstalled my pc (Windows 8.1) without any other programs than WoW and HB, just to test performance. I can now rule out virus scanners or third party apps as being the culprit.
Also, I tested without addons, lowering the resolution to 1280x800 (normally 1920x1200), lowering all WoW settings to LOW... nothing helps. Still the same fps, so that tells me my pc can handle it. I get the same performance at 1280x800xlow as 1920x1200xhigh.
I just hope that either HB will be improved A LOT performance wise, OR they remove the built-in framelock again. Before that, using the Tyrael framelock in my case, performance was perfect. There was no need to change it as far as I'm concerned. And because of 5.4.1 patch I cannot go back to 697 anymore :(
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Yea, I know I have set this before but a lot of our thoughts is the FPS drop is with the HB framelock.

From what I understand and a few of us believe is the HB framelock pulses everything where tyrael was only pulsing the routine. Hence more FPS drop.

Where to go from here I don't know unless they have a selectable things to pulse.
 
The same to me. my desktop -man often drop below 15fps in LFR 25, i can't even move to escape large scale damage when use oracle.
Can someone tell me how to deal with this,thanks.
 
Hello, i have notice that CR not supportet Synapce springs (Eng. ench) is there any posibilities to add this option in future?
 
Dominci said:
Hey guys, any tips for using Oracles' Druid CC for proving grounds? It did Bronze - Gold flawlessly without a hitch but at the moment I'm really struggling to get past round 8 or 9 whilst attempting the Endless Healer trials. I have the Class Settings set to those that were provided by Mirabis and I use the Proving Grounds general settings. To my understanding the Druid CC is currently the least developed of the healing classes due to too few testers for it, is it simply not powerful enough to complete the Endless Healer challenges currently or is there a step I'm missing?

Thanks in advance for your replies and thanks again to Wulf for the brilliant Routines!
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Druid got insane Love today..it really was performing horrible but now!!! Stay tuned for revision 299!!
 
wulf said:
that's because 697 had no frame lock ;)
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True, but they implemented framelock to IMPROVE performance, right? :)
Now HB 699 kills even the fastest machine, performance wise.
Jet_xu2013 and Wulf, this might be somewhat interesting: The fps drops mainly when moving my toon. When standing still, it's playable (15-30fps max).
When moving, I get freezes of 1 or 2 seconds, especially in AoE situations. What is technically different about moving your toon and standing still, Wulf? Is it unit caching, positioning calculations?
 
Update version 299 - druid love

  • Druid Improvements: Glyph of Efflorescence support.
  • Druid Improvements: Wild Mushroom Efflorescence targets (tank, you, second tank) Distance check, set time to check shroom placement.
  • Druid Improvements: Loads of stupid things fixed.
  • Druid Improvements: Better Harmony uptime.
  • Druid Improvements: Rejuvenation Blanket mode. choose count, mana pct, enable/disable.
  • Druid Improvements: Default settings tweaked including General "Maximum Health Percent for Clusters." (defaults to 99 for you.)

Highly recommend using Glyph of Efflorescence!

Oracle Druid is much better.

Important: Delete your Oracle Settings folder HBFolder/Settings/Oracle
 
Highstrike said:
i always set it to 0, but if its in the dynamic spell list it would be easier to turn it off because that's where i turn everything on or off now, so a setting for it there would be awesome, and having the dynamic spell list section on top before everything else would also be awesome.

[[class specific tab]]
dynamic spell list
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the rest
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Wulf any thoughts to this? For adding Hymm of hope as a cooldown on <#region Category: Enable Dynamic Spells (Cooldown Spells)>
and to move the true false options <#region Category: Enable Dynamic Spells (Single Heal)> to the top of the list.
 
<3 i really love the changes for droods

the settings with 1/2nd tank or self is also perfect.

even managed to get low on mana with my drood in 10man soo with 3 healers (diszi and shaman) nearly ever fight on top)
 
wulf said:
Update version 299 - druid love

  • Druid Improvements: Glyph of Efflorescence support.
  • Druid Improvements: Wild Mushroom Efflorescence targets (tank, you, second tank) Distance check, set time to check shroom placement.
  • Druid Improvements: Loads of stupid things fixed.
  • Druid Improvements: Better Harmony uptime.
  • Druid Improvements: Rejuvenation Blanket mode. choose count, mana pct, enable/disable.
  • Druid Improvements: Default settings tweaked including General "Maximum Health Percent for Clusters." (defaults to 99 for you.)

Highly recommend using Glyph of Efflorescence!

Oracle Druid is much better.

Important: Delete your Oracle Settings folder HBFolder/Settings/Oracle
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Wulf 1 thing I notice in druid tried in lfr but I notice he never put mushrooms maybe got corrupted the spell can u fix it pls:)

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works fine for me, 299 and just [Glyph of Efflorescence]
no [Glyph of the Sprouting Mushroom]

worked even without deleting the settings, but did it after boss 6 -> still works great always on top 130-170k hps

10man nhc soo / stable and tyreal 302 or something like that

edit: omg 200k hps on malorok (priest / shaman both on 120k -> me 43% they on ~24 each)
 
blablub said:
works fine for me, 299 and just [Glyph of Efflorescence]
no [Glyph of the Sprouting Mushroom]

worked even without deleting the settings, but did it after boss 6 -> still works great always on top 130-170k hps

10man nhc soo / stable and tyreal 302 or something like that
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Oh thank you I will try it;)



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Update version 300

Improvement: Druid now has Dynamic spell settings for regrowth and Healing Touch.

Got to wave 11 endless, default settings in Proving grounds. Can a geared Druid report back ? :D
 
blablub said:
works fine for me, 299 and just [Glyph of Efflorescence]
no [Glyph of the Sprouting Mushroom]

worked even without deleting the settings, but did it after boss 6 -> still works great always on top 130-170k hps

10man nhc soo / stable and tyreal 302 or something like that

edit: omg 200k hps on malorok (priest / shaman both on 120k -> me 43% they on ~24 each)
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Yes! it should be much much better now...Druid wasn't even in the Ballpark before..now we hitting home runs :D
 
Wulf does it support Glyph of Sprouting Mushroom for druids or should we take that glyph off for this CC?
 
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