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[PAID] Oracle II - Premium [All in One]
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Sorry to hear that, benny.. I will definitely buy it if you implement some cc hotkeys. Shouldn't take too long. Ahhhh, that's the lovely thing about the SaaS-bullshit Honorbuddy got going on - You need to care for your customers, a lot and listen to their ideas to make them stay - They can't improve your service by themselves
So I was healing Soo Garrosh 10m to try, test and tweak settings for my 25hc grp 11/14. (selfless Healer)
I really don't know why, but the routine is casting word of glory, flash of light etc. I lowered singletarget to 1 and still it heals singletarget. As far as I know the best rotation is Judgement, Holy Radiance, Flash of Light, Light of Dawn......repeat..... repeat. i know that this routine is trying to cast flash of light to add some Holy Power, but for me singletarget is not enough. In 25HC there are so much aoe heals flying that the singletargetheals are wasted CDs. Is there an option to tweak this routine to cast nearly the rotation mentioned above?
Still it would be nice to get this routine casting even if the raid is full, to get the shields popping
I really don't know why, but the routine is casting word of glory, flash of light etc. I lowered singletarget to 1 and still it heals singletarget. As far as I know the best rotation is Judgement, Holy Radiance, Flash of Light, Light of Dawn......repeat..... repeat. i know that this routine is trying to cast flash of light to add some Holy Power, but for me singletarget is not enough. In 25HC there are so much aoe heals flying that the singletargetheals are wasted CDs. Is there an option to tweak this routine to cast nearly the rotation mentioned above?
Still it would be nice to get this routine casting even if the raid is full, to get the shields popping
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Your settings are quite off for what you are trying to achieve. I will try to get our Pally beta tester to get some setting sup for SH healing in the next day or so.
All's well that Heals well,
Bennyquest
I looked over the log you attached and feel if you made the following tweaks, you will get closer to what you might want for your 25man Heroic raid:
- First off, the rotation I think you mean is Judgment, Holy Shock, Holy Radiance, Light of Dawn. If that is true, then,
- Turn Holy Prism, set to heal single targets, to False (for AOE healing, you don't really need it)
- Turn Word of Glory to False (Eats up your Holy Power and could be better healed with smart heals or someone else that does Throughput healing, not a shielding healer)
- Set Holy Radiance to 100 (will encourage CR to cast more of a rotation)
- Turn Flash of Light to False (an exception is if you are using Beacon to help generate holy power, then leave to True and Beacon HB building w/ FL to True, however, this can be very mana intensive)
- Turn Sacred Shield to False (shouldn't change anything, just looks nicer, hehe)
- Turn, under Do Damage section, turn Hammer of Wrath to False (wasted GCD)
- Under General tab, set Use Damage Prediction to False (if you want it to follow more of a rotation, and not change priority based on damage)
- Under General tab, set Max AOE to 100 (so that it casts no matter the health, for shield building)
These are just suggestions, and if your rotation you described really should be J-HS-HR-LoD, then it should be closer to what you want. If this doesn't work, I'd be happy to offer further assistance. Good Luck!
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Still testing these changes guys, really wanted to push a release tonight but we just couldn't get the testing done for all classes, do not want to break anything existing or go backwards.
Hopefully tomorrow night.
On another note, Im still looking for *good* beta testers so ping me.
Wulf.
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Thanks you for the support,
my fault, of course HR before HS to build up Daybreak proc.
tried these settings in lfr nr 1. getting closer to this rotation, but it casts randomly the spells. Most of the time its stacking up SH up to 3 stacks and cast HR then. After that it burns mana enourmusly when it casts 3 HRs without Sh stacks up. Due to this issue I have to go with 14k spirit+ , which is way too much. SH should be manaefficient. When I'm playing by miyself 10-12k spirit is enough.
I'm really looking forward to Wulfs next fix for oracle respecting stacks of SH, maybe this gets rid of these Problems.
I know SH is a pretty static Rotation and has nothing to do with the dynamic healing Oracle is proud of (with great justice) etc. But it's quite the best for Hpally in 25 environment
Also it casts HR to build up HP while Holy Avenger is popped, totally waste of time. Judgement or HS should be used there
Thanks you for the support,
my fault, of course HR before HS to build up Daybreak proc.
tried these settings in lfr nr 1. getting closer to this rotation, but it casts randomly the spells. Most of the time its stacking up SH up to 3 stacks and cast HR then. After that it burns mana enourmusly when it casts 3 HRs without Sh stacks up. Due to this issue I have to go with 14k spirit+ , which is way too much. SH should be manaefficient. When I'm playing by miyself 10-12k spirit is enough.
I'm really looking forward to Wulfs next fix for oracle respecting stacks of SH, maybe this gets rid of these Problems.
I know SH is a pretty static Rotation and has nothing to do with the dynamic healing Oracle is proud of (with great justice) etc. But it's quite the best for Hpally in 25 environment
Also it casts HR to build up HP while Holy Avenger is popped, totally waste of time. Judgement or HS should be used there
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I agree with you that SH is a very static rotation for maximum HPS by keeping shields up as much as possible. A simple 4 spell macro rotation would probably outheal most CRs, however, there are too many variables such as mechanics of the encounter, the skill of the raid group, etc, and requires other actions such as Beacon swapping if appropriate, Lay on Hands for emergency heal, instant aoe smart heal of Holy Prism, the pre-shielding that Light's Hammer needs to do, and so forth, that would break a set rotation. My thinking is that Wulf is looking forward to WoD for more of a dynamic healing situation as you stated, and to that point, Oracle II is written with WoD in mind, and not the mindlessness of a set healing rotation.
Casting HR to build HP while Holy Avenger is popped isn't optimal though, and that is something that should be looked at. I'm trying to help with these issues, but it is difficult to catch and then refine all the nuances needed to improve the CR, but that is the goal in mind. I will pass this on to Wulf and see what can be done.
So far on the beta, SS and EF seem optimal so we will see how it works out with the CR over the next few weeks before the release of WoD. Personally, I don't want to break the dynamic nature of Oracle II for the next few weeks for a padding SH rotation, so there's a lot to probably consider when making changes. Any information that you could post or PM me about would be most appreciated as I'm sure, we all want to have the best CR possible for WoD.
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Hi,
I just bought Oracle II Prem in the stop
My holy priest does never use Prayer of Healing... I dont know whats wrong! Plz healp me.
Its alsow not mentioned in the Healing Calculater simlulate or Raid
I checked:
AOE HEaling > Targets 2 @ 95% heal
Rotation > Prayer of healing is set true
using Tyreal with conti heal mode true
thanks a lot!
Hi,
I just bought Oracle II Prem in the stop
My holy priest does never use Prayer of Healing... I dont know whats wrong! Plz healp me.
Its alsow not mentioned in the Healing Calculater simlulate or Raid
I checked:
AOE HEaling > Targets 2 @ 95% heal
Rotation > Prayer of healing is set true
using Tyreal with conti heal mode true
thanks a lot!
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bennyquest
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You have a lot of errors in your log from botbase.root.tick Can you do a fresh install for me please and try again? Then upload a log for me? It never showed your settings in the log which is odd, more than likely due to a corrupted bot file issue.
All's well that Heals well,
Bennyquest
Here you go! Complete new install no Prayer of healing...
View attachment Lvl 90 Horde Priest_20140917191508036.zip
bennyquest
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Can you post me a log? That is no help without a log.
All's well that Heals well,
Bennyquest
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Ok at first glance you have some really weird and messed up settings. You should delete the Oracle 2 settings folder in your settings folder inside the HB folder....let the default settings load up. And tweak them as needed. Do not go in and change everything but tweak it as needed.
All's well that Heals well,
Bennyquest
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Yes, try deleting the settings found in HB/Settings/Oracle II, and also the settings found in HB/Routines/Oracle II. I deleted both settings folders and mine began working again. I was having the same issue you were a few days back (roughly 4-5 days ago, maybe more). After deleting the settings and letting the routine stream back down again, everything began to work perfectly fine just as it had before I started trying to load settings files and tinker with settings in the routine.
Done....
... still not working... in groups sometimes its using POH but with tyrael in raids never seen in the healing rota. And its using Binding Heal Wrong very often with 100% live and lossing a lot of mana...
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... still not working... in groups sometimes its using POH but with tyrael in raids never seen in the healing rota. And its using Binding Heal Wrong very often with 100% live and lossing a lot of mana...
View attachment Lvl 90 Horde Priest_20140917233146141.zip
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wulf
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Ignore that, just means you don't have an enemy unit available.
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Looking into it a little more your settings are fine now, but there is a massive error being spammed in your logs trying to see if it is routine issue or old corrupt data in your store cache....try one more thing for me...can you delete the cache.bin file in this directory.
C:\Users\%YOUR USERNAME%\AppData\Local\Bossland\Buddy Store
let me know if it still does not work if it does not you do not have to post me a new log and I will continue searching the routine.
All's well that Heals well,
Bennyquest