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Mark II - User Controlled PvE & PvP Hunter Routine

DewdInTheNewd said:
I noticed that the CR likes to pop Readiness ASAP instead of waiting to pop Rapid Fire (if close to coming off CD) or waiting for 2x Kill Shots (if boss is low HP).
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Probably a issue/tweak needed with the timings on those specific cooldowns, I'll have a look at it later tonight.
 
2.1.0 dev version released, improved AoE and improved PvP. Next 5 weeks im gonna be pretty busy (military stuff). So the CC is kind of on a hiatus, not getting a lot of updates. But I heard Tuanhas hunter is pretty good so I'm sure you guys will manage :P
 
Just testing this on the dummy and 90 mobs. It seems to use wrath/stampede major cooldowns that normally would be used on a boss, but using them on normal mobs as well.

Maybe I am missing the config section for this but don't we want to NOT use these cooldowns on trash during raids?
 
I wish I didn't update my dev version to 2.1.0. Ever since then (at least for BM) the CR has been awful. It doesn't use Kill Command, Murder of Crows, anything really. All it seems to do is use focus CDs to build up as much focus as possible to spam arcane shots :V

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Did some trial and error with the GUI settings. In order for the CC to work properly I needed to disable all AoE frills (mainly "auto target" and "AoE Cluster"). Now it does single target properly.

Also, it seems to be true for any version of Mark I, but the "belt enchant" option does not seem to work at all. The CC never activates my belt to use my Frag Grenade on the target. It's not a huge deal because it's off the GCD and I can use it manually, but I thought I'd mention it.
 
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DewdInTheNewd said:
I wish I didn't update my dev version to 2.1.0. Ever since then (at least for BM) the CR has been awful. It doesn't use Kill Command, Murder of Crows, anything really. All it seems to do is use focus CDs to build up as much focus as possible to spam arcane shots :V

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Did some trial and error with the GUI settings. In order for the CC to work properly I needed to disable all AoE frills (mainly "auto target" and "AoE Cluster"). Now it does single target properly.

Also, it seems to be true for any version of Mark I, but the "belt enchant" option does not seem to work at all. The CC never activates my belt to use my Frag Grenade on the target. It's not a huge deal because it's off the GCD and I can use it manually, but I thought I'd mention it.
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Did u switch specs with the CR already started ? There seem to be problems with the talent checks if u do. U'll Have to be in the correct talent then start the bot. Also can u upload a log for me in diagnostic mode. To be sure it doesn't spam out major errors.
 
Mirabis said:
Did u switch specs with the CR already started ? There seem to be problems with the talent checks if u do. U'll Have to be in the correct talent then start the bot. Also can u upload a log for me in diagnostic mode. To be sure it doesn't spam out major errors.
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That's not what's happening. I've been in the same BM spec for a week or so now. It seems 2.1.0 is forcing AoE no matter what settings I have, so in order to fix it I had to completely disable multishot and cluster.
 
DewdInTheNewd said:
That's not what's happening. I've been in the same BM spec for a week or so now. It seems 2.1.0 is forcing AoE no matter what settings I have, so in order to fix it I had to completely disable multishot and cluster.
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Hmm guessing it's falldowns AoE enhancements that have a little bug or something in that area.
I'll try to have a look at it tomorrow.
 
I have been using 2.1.0 as SV and was able to swap between single target and AoE with no issues, I've seen only DPS increases.

The belt enchant hasn't worked for me, ever with this CC. ON the old BM CC it worked great. If there is a fight I still feel the need to swap to BM, I will just use the older version of falldown's old CC as it performs the best of any CC i've tried as BM.
 
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I'll look at the new AoE code but just to explain it shortly, it'll basically run AoE if there are any clusters around you that you are facing, not just if there's a cluster near your target. That means a lot more AoE.

Now there are hotkey features for this and gathering focus, if you enable them by accident, it'll certainly seem like the CR is broken, or as described earlier by DewdInTheNewd "All it seems to do is use focus CDs to build up as much focus as possible to spam arcane shots". Sounds like Focus Regen mode was on :p

Anyway, I'll look through the code to see if there are any obvious issues, I don't have a lot of time this weekend nor too much next weekend either and ill be gone 3 weeks after that, so don't expect any major updates for a good month or so :P
 
falldown said:
I'll look at the new AoE code but just to explain it shortly, it'll basically run AoE if there are any clusters around you that you are facing, not just if there's a cluster near your target. That means a lot more AoE.

Now there are hotkey features for this and gathering focus, if you enable them by accident, it'll certainly seem like the CR is broken, or as described earlier by DewdInTheNewd "All it seems to do is use focus CDs to build up as much focus as possible to spam arcane shots". Sounds like Focus Regen mode was on :p

Anyway, I'll look through the code to see if there are any obvious issues, I don't have a lot of time this weekend nor too much next weekend either and ill be gone 3 weeks after that, so don't expect any major updates for a good month or so :P
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Nah, I tested this for an hour or so. A lot of setting changes and clean HB installs (making sure things like Tyrael was up to date and setup properly).

The first thing I checked was keybinds (which I ended up rebinding to silly things I would never press like l.shift + r.alt) since I only use the CC for single target (BM). No matter if I did a clean install of both HB + Mark II I -always- had to disable "AoE Cluster" and "Use Multi-shot" -- This was never a problem for me pre-2.1.0 (used 2.0.8 previously).

I tried only having one or the other disabled but the results were always the same; the CR would spam multi-shot and focus regen to feed the repeat multi-shots. Once I disabled both the aforementioned settings, the CR worked like a charm and I was back to destroying charts (within reason, currently 508 ilevel :V and also fuck wizards :D).

Ever since the 2.x.x versions of Mark I (Mark II now) the CR has been beautiful DPS-wise, outperforming the other options on the forums, feels like your old BM CC again :D (from which I obtained multiple 95+ percentile rankings back in pre-5.1).

On an unrelated note, I kinda feel bad for using my HB to DPS for me as I know my class very very well and would rank pretty high before I started using CRs (started CR botting in MoP) but damn I feel like I have to play DDR to DPS now-a-days :V Oh well, at least I know the stuff in my head.
 
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DewdInTheNewd said:
On an unrelated note, I kinda feel bad for using my HB to DPS for me as I know my class very very well and would rank pretty high before I started using CRs (started CR botting in MoP) but damn I feel like I have to play DDR to DPS now-a-days :V Oh well, at least I know the stuff in my head.
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I feel exactly the same. I am just way to fucking lazy to play the clusterfuck that is a hunter right now. Hopefully Ghostcrawler is serious when he says that hunters have too many buttons.

At least for 5.3 it looks like Beast Cleave will be 1 less button to press, as it appears to be the highest dps passive for BM.
 
Outside of what I've already mentioned, it would be nice if the CR delayed Dire Beast. It's a wasted GCD when used while under the effects of Beastial Wrath.

An addendum to my previous post (previous page @ the bottom) -- The problem with "AoE Cluster" and what not is only with BM. The issue does not occur in SV spec.
 
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DewdInTheNewd said:
Outside of what I've already mentioned, it would be nice if the CR delayed Dire Beast. It's a wasted GCD when used while under the effects of Beastial Wrath.

An addendum to my previous post (previous page @ the bottom) -- The problem with "AoE Cluster" and what not is only with BM. The issue does not occur in SV spec.
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An update is coming soon, it will fix Focus Fire in PvP, not cast Dire Beast if Bestial Wrath is on and seperate AoE Cluster rotation from normal AoE rotation and give you the option to disable normal AoE rotation all together.

Edit: Also increasing wait time for Rapid Fire on readiness from 20 seconds to 30, if Rapid Fire is coming off CD in less than 30 seconds it won't use readiness.

Let me know if you think this is still too low. Oh and I'll look into not casting readiness until Kill Shot if on CD if target is below 20% health.
 
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falldown said:
An update is coming soon, it will fix Focus Fire in PvP, not cast Dire Beast if Bestial Wrath is on and seperate AoE Cluster rotation from normal AoE rotation and give you the option to disable normal AoE rotation all together.

Edit: Also increasing wait time for Rapid Fire on readiness from 20 seconds to 30, if Rapid Fire is coming off CD in less than 30 seconds it won't use readiness.

Let me know if you think this is still too low. Oh and I'll look into not casting readiness until Kill Shot if on CD if target is below 20% health.
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Sounds great :)
 
can anyone post their PVE raiding BM CC settings. IDK why but i think i may have done my Settings wrong. Im not pulling a lot of dps.
 
Latest version (2.1.1) has been improved for BM, but the SV portion doesn't seem to pull the DPS that Tuana's SV CR does.
 
I have used this CR for awhile not and Friday it stoped working it just auto attacks. I have downloaded a clean install of HB and that has not helped either. I am having the same issue with purerotations it just tries to cast a silencing or traqualizing shot over and over. Any help would be appreciated.

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Alright guys, I'm gonna be stuck in the woods for 3 weeks (military stuff), but once I get back I'll resume working on the combat routine.
 
One problem I seem to have not noticed until recently is during a raid environment (this doesn't happen on dummies) is that the CR tends to miss casting AMoC. It wont cast it until -really- late. On target dummies I have zero problems.

I run at tickrate 40 and framelock with all plugins disabled. I also regularly delete my cache and logs (for both WoW and HB).

Perhaps the CR is a bit too "anal" about not casting certain things during certain conditions (mainly referring to focus fire and bestial wrath) and it just doesn't seem like I'm doing as many Kill Commands as I should be.
 
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