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[PAID] [Mage] Portal - An Advanced Honorbuddy Mage Routine [PvE/PvP]

New build pushed, waiting for approval:

[10/Mar/2015]
- [Arcane] Will now use Arcane Missiles for extending Arcane Power duration.
- [Fire] Will cast Fireball when standing still and 3x stacks of Ignition always - overriding use scorch as filler setting.
- [Fire] Improved combustion trick for 2pc set bonus.
- All targeting checks are now ignored once an encounter has been detected in progress.
 
Oh wait now, dont miss understand me. I ment its not as supported as demonic
Im doing around 48k dps with this routin its not bad :)
But doing more dps with my warlock :D
 
Im asuming your talking aoe cause there is no way in hell your doing 48k single target in any warlock spec.
 
Something I had not noticed before because I generally don't turn it on: The routine will polymorph something just fine, however when everything else is dead the bot will just sit there until the polymorph wears off, and then kill the mob, or worse re-cast polymorph on it.

Is there anyway to get it to CC something and when everything is dead, kill the final polymorphed mob? Seems silly if it just stands there and waits without anything else happening. Again sometimes it just polymorphs it again.
 
Millz,

Two questions for you. I am using the paid version:

(1) Since 6.0 the framerate reduction when using it has been notable, it seems to drop my framerates by 25+. I realize this will drop framerate, but it never was this bad previously. Is there anything I can do about this?

(2) Which of the combustion options do your recommend in a raid environment for fire? I cannot get fire to get anywhere close to the other mages in my raid, it is 20-30% behind.
 
bigcorn said:
Oh wait now, dont miss understand me. I ment its not as supported as demonic
Im doing around 48k dps with this routin its not bad :)
But doing more dps with my warlock :D
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I work on all of them a lot - it just depends what needs fixing and the priority of it which takes precedent. Portal was in a better state than Demonic, so Demonic got a lot more time recently.

samoday said:
Water elemental is attacking but only randomly. It does the initial Freeze, but 9 times out of 10, it does nothing else.

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Little help here Millz.
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The routine is forcing the pet to attack - it looks correct in that log. The log file is pretty short though - there isn't much info in it.

P.S: You need to disable trinket 1 from being used. "Tovra's Lightning Repository" isn't a usable trinket.

jds said:
Something I had not noticed before because I generally don't turn it on: The routine will polymorph something just fine, however when everything else is dead the bot will just sit there until the polymorph wears off, and then kill the mob, or worse re-cast polymorph on it.

Is there anyway to get it to CC something and when everything is dead, kill the final polymorphed mob? Seems silly if it just stands there and waits without anything else happening. Again sometimes it just polymorphs it again.
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Hey - It should never polymorph our current target - there's code in to prevent that from happening. You're right that it won't attack the last unit if they're polymorphed though - there's loads of code in to prevent breaking polymorphed units - it would be a bit of a nightmare to try and unpick that to allow attacking if it's the last unit.

badthing said:
Hello, for 2 days these routines do not work anymore.
Tries with 2 accounts and 2 keys but the mage just does nothing.
Am I using the purchase version.

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sry is google translator :)
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Looks like Greedy is breaking the bot from loading correctly. Disable Greedy via the store website (under My Purchases) and reload HB.

thejourney said:
Millz,

Two questions for you. I am using the paid version:

(1) Since 6.0 the framerate reduction when using it has been notable, it seems to drop my framerates by 25+. I realize this will drop framerate, but it never was this bad previously. Is there anything I can do about this?

(2) Which of the combustion options do your recommend in a raid environment for fire? I cannot get fire to get anywhere close to the other mages in my raid, it is 20-30% behind.
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Hey - for #1 - is that in any particular spec? Frost/Arcane etc. Can you post a log file too please?

For #2 it's a tough call. With the combustion glyph you really want to hold out for higher powered combustions (i.e. over 90% value... or a fixed value that you've specified). If you aren't using the glyph you can use combustion more often since the CD is lower - so above average is probably sufficient for that.
 
Millz said:
The routine is forcing the pet to attack - it looks correct in that log. The log file is pretty short though - there isn't much info in it.

P.S: You need to disable trinket 1 from being used. "Tovra's Lightning Repository" isn't a usable trinket.
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I know the log is not very long, but it is showing exactly what it is doing. It was a single fight. My water elemental is just not attacking except for the very first freeze to keep the mob in place. After that, it just sits there and does nothing. It's like it gets stuck and can't move. It faces the mob, but casts no spells. Does exactly the same thing in arenas and BG's. Once in a while, it will kick in and actually start doing something but stops again. Here is a bigger log showing the exact same thing. Pet freezes, doesnt attack, mob gets half way dead, pet starts attacking, mob is 3/4 dead, it stops attacking again. I don't know how else to explain it.

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And yes, I noticed my trinket was on use when neither of my trinkets are "usable" trinkets lol. Simply forgot to change it. But I did and the pet is still not working properly when I use HB, but works fine when I'm not using it.

Hopefully some further insight will be available.
 
samoday said:
I know the log is not very long, but it is showing exactly what it is doing. It was a single fight. My water elemental is just not attacking except for the very first freeze to keep the mob in place. After that, it just sits there and does nothing. It's like it gets stuck and can't move. It faces the mob, but casts no spells. Does exactly the same thing in arenas and BG's. Once in a while, it will kick in and actually start doing something but stops again. Here is a bigger log showing the exact same thing. Pet freezes, doesnt attack, mob gets half way dead, pet starts attacking, mob is 3/4 dead, it stops attacking again. I don't know how else to explain it.

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And yes, I noticed my trinket was on use when neither of my trinkets are "usable" trinkets lol. Simply forgot to change it. But I did and the pet is still not working properly when I use HB, but works fine when I'm not using it.

Hopefully some further insight will be available.
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Can you try disabling force pet attack? It's unlikely that's causing the issue but worth trying. Option is on the frost tab. *Edit* ...and make sure the pet isn't set to passive in game.
 
Millz said:
Can you try disabling force pet attack? It's unlikely that's causing the issue but worth trying. Option is on the frost tab. *Edit* ...and make sure the pet isn't set to passive in game.
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ok, so messing around even more trying to get it to work, i noticed one thing. Enable Pet Freeze is off, and Enable Water Jet is on. It then uses the Water Jet and casts just fine. Apparently, Freeze and Water Jet share a cooldown (Sorry for the ignorance of my own class). If they are both activated in the routine, it causes the pet to sit idle until the 25 second CD is up and won't even cast Water Bolt. Once the 25 second CD is over, it appears to randomly cast either Water Jet, OR Freeze. If it then casts Water Jet, the pet will work fine. If it casts Freeze, it remains idle again.

I'm sure you can easily replicate this on your own by having both abilities activated in your routine. Maybe it would be wise to automatically uncheck one if the other ability is checked.

With that out of the way, which ability do you think is better for Arenas? Water Jet, or Freeze? Or should I change it accordingly depending if I am facing a caster team or a melee team?
 
Hi Millz,

Firstly, great routine. Whilst I am enjoying great damage with Fire, I'm somewhat struggling with Arcane. I've noticed that on movement fights, Portal will attempt to burst (and place Prismatic Shard) in the area that the boss was standing, but now isn't. Could you let me know how I can configure burst on key? Do I need to setup the burst rotation or is Portal smart enough to do so.

Also, on Kargath noticed that after PC burst finishes, Portal targets an NPC from the stands instead of back to Kargath
 
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Not sure if something broke with targeting fixes but now having issues with oregor targeting. Can you force routine to do its rotation when target is PC no matter what? ignore targeting checks? Cause they are behind the wall?
 

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ok, so messing around even more trying to get it to work, i noticed one thing. Enable Pet Freeze is off, and Enable Water Jet is on. It then uses the Water Jet and casts just fine. Apparently, Freeze and Water Jet share a cooldown (Sorry for the ignorance of my own class). If they are both activated in the routine, it causes the pet to sit idle until the 25 second CD is up and won't even cast Water Bolt. Once the 25 second CD is over, it appears to randomly cast either Water Jet, OR Freeze. If it then casts Water Jet, the pet will work fine. If it casts Freeze, it remains idle again.

I'm sure you can easily replicate this on your own by having both abilities activated in your routine. Maybe it would be wise to automatically uncheck one if the other ability is checked.

With that out of the way, which ability do you think is better for Arenas? Water Jet, or Freeze? Or should I change it accordingly depending if I am facing a caster team or a melee team?
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That's odd - there's nothing in the routine that controls the pet's auto-cast water bolt other than when force attack is enabled - and that just clicks the attack button until it has a target. I'm not aware of anything that Portal could be doing which would stop it from casting the auto-cast water bolt.

Have you got Water Bolt set to auto cast in game? It can be disabled so that it doesn't cast.

You should only enable Freeze or Water Jet - which is down to personal preference. In PvP I prefer Freeze.

hotwielzz said:
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here ismy log, i hat manully hit combust most of the night it eventually started going off with the set value checked but was hit n miss
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Combustion -> When you had it set on 90th, it looks like ignite went very, very high at the start of the fight (20k) and then struggled to get high enough to fall into the 90th range - it took a while until the threshold dropped far enough to hit that value.

Looking over the log, I'd guess the 'over average' setting would have worked better.

pillsj said:
Hi Millz,

Firstly, great routine. Whilst I am enjoying great damage with Fire, I'm somewhat struggling with Arcane. I've noticed that on movement fights, Portal will attempt to burst (and place Prismatic Shard) in the area that the boss was standing, but now isn't. Could you let me know how I can configure burst on key? Do I need to setup the burst rotation or is Portal smart enough to do so.

Also, on Kargath noticed that after PC burst finishes, Portal targets an NPC from the stands instead of back to Kargath
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I'd avoid using burst in PvE, it alters the rotation and deviates away from the 'optimal' one.

Can you PM me a screenshot + log file when PC casts in the wrong place please? If the boss has a large hit box it tries to calculate the point between us and the boss where its still inside the bosses hit box - potentially that's picking the wrong location.

Re-targeting after PC will hopefully be fixed in my next build.
 
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Millz said:
Hey - for #1 - is that in any particular spec? Frost/Arcane etc. Can you post a log file too please?

For #2 it's a tough call. With the combustion glyph you really want to hold out for higher powered combustions (i.e. over 90% value... or a fixed value that you've specified). If you aren't using the glyph you can use combustion more often since the CD is lower - so above average is probably sufficient for that.
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Ive noticed it primarily with fire, but it also happens with frost (to a lesser extent). Logs attached. I should note this is on training dummies, and where it gets really bad is in a raid environment. Just on dummies by myself, there is no large FPS decrease.

In terms of optimal settings for fire, there is obviously some trick to this as people are reporting good parses. I have tried the 90% threshold with the glyph and it just takes so long to hit the threshold that it is a DPS loss. I wonder if people are manually managing combustion due to fights where you need to AOE combust?
 
thejourney said:
Ive noticed it primarily with fire, but it also happens with frost (to a lesser extent). Logs attached. I should note this is on training dummies, and where it gets really bad is in a raid environment. Just on dummies by myself, there is no large FPS decrease.

In terms of optimal settings for fire, there is obviously some trick to this as people are reporting good parses. I have tried the 90% threshold with the glyph and it just takes so long to hit the threshold that it is a DPS loss. I wonder if people are manually managing combustion due to fights where you need to AOE combust?
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Hey - Can you post a full, unedited log file please? That file is missing all of the important stuff at the beginning :)

For combustion, I'm swaying towards thinking the 'above average' setting is best at the moment (unless using specific set values - which is a little more advanced).
 
why does this not move away when solo? It literally tanks mobs... what a waste.

i guess this is for raid rotation mainly/only? Trying t o use it to farm and elites simply rape you dead lol. Surprisingly enough singular works just fine on the same mobs that kill this.
 
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