[PAID] [Mage] Portal - An Advanced Honorbuddy Mage Routine [PvE/PvP]

[zeldrak]

It dont use any spells in fire ... just poping cds and stop even in frost in LFR too :/

Without a log (see in my signature how to zip and attach a complete log file) I can't really say what's going wrong, or even help. But I will venture a guess and say that you might be changing specs without closing Honorbuddy completely and opening it back up. Anytime you change from one spec to another, you MUST close and reopen (otherwise known as restarting) Honorbuddy. It needs to initialize the spellbook for the spec you are in when it starts up. It can't do that when you change specs without restarting the bot. If that doesn't help you, then please post a complete log file to your next post so that we can assist you better.

 

[Millz]

i cant login anymore and i cant seem to change password because i wont get the password reset email. any help?

PM'd

Hey Millz, Since there is no longer a "PullDistance" slider in honorbuddy, would it be possible for you to implement a pull distance slider into the premium CR?

I only ask because when I bot for farming cloth, it is constantly targeting mobs that are out of range but it won't actually move closer to initiate combat. In other words, it targets a mob that is just over 45 yards away and just stands there trying to cast but can't because it is to far away.

Enable movement and it'll move in range to attack the unit. PullDistance isn't required.

 

[samoday]

Enable movement and it'll move in range to attack the unit. PullDistance isn't required.

Hmm... something is wrong then because it is already enabled. I'll do it some more this morning and post a log if it keeps happening.

 

[Millz]

Hmm... something is wrong then because it is already enabled. I'll do it some more this morning and post a log if it keeps happening.

Yeah go for it. Make sure "suspend movement" is disabled too. It'll attempt to move within 40 yards range of the target, and then attack. 35 yards if you aren't already in combat (to prevent the unit moving away before we get the cast off).

 

[Millz]

Any of you Fire spec lovers tried the new experimental PvE rotation out?

 

[Drizzt1990]

Any of you Fire spec lovers tried the new experimental PvE rotation out?

Didn't even know there was one till now

will try if I have time before mainraid starts (Destrolock ftw )

 

[Millz]

Didn't even know there was one till now

will try if I have time before mainraid starts (Destrolock ftw )

Pfft, these people who don't read my change logs

 

[dilbog]

Any of you Fire spec lovers tried the new experimental PvE rotation out?

Will take a look at it today. fingers crossed

 

[dilbog]

Any of you Fire spec lovers tried the new experimental PvE rotation out?

Not managing potent flames, never seen five stacks of it so far we want 5 stacks all the time even if that mean missing a high value combustion. opening sequence is wrong a basic one that works is invocation,mirror image,haste pot, pyroblast x4, altertime, pyroblast x2, combustion. it's basic but gets the dob done most of the time.
I was using reforged crit,haste 14100,mastery,haste.
It seems to be not letting alter time run full duration in some cases cancelling it next gcd

 

[Millz]

Not managing potent flames, never seen five stacks of it so far we want 5 stacks all the time even if that mean missing a high value combustion. opening sequence is wrong a basic one that works is invocation,mirror image,haste pot, pyroblast x4, altertime, pyroblast x2, combustion. it's basic but gets the dob done most of the time.
I was using reforged crit,haste 14100,mastery,haste.
It seems to be not letting alter time run full duration in some cases cancelling it next gcd

The opening sequence is following this; Fire Mage DPS Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (WoW MoP 5.4) - Icy Veins

It'll only cast Pyroblast when we have both "Pyroblast!" and "Heating Up" auras.

Potent Flames is just passive, you wouldn't hard cast a Pyroblast just to keep that up, would you ?

Will need a log for the alter time stuff.

Cheers for the feedback so far

 

[dilbog]

The opening sequence is following this; Fire Mage DPS Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (WoW MoP 5.4) - Icy Veins

It'll only cast Pyroblast when we have both "Pyroblast!" and "Heating Up" auras.

Potent Flames is just passive, you wouldn't hard cast a Pyroblast just to keep that up, would you ?

Will need a log for the alter time stuff.

Cheers for the feedback so far

Umms yea the whole point fire atm is to abuse potent flames. I really suggest you have a look on methodwow fire mage guide.

Also just wondering because I was asked by another player but cant remember, on the frost rotation when moving will it cast ice lance? Just asking because he is mastery spec and is cursing because ice lance is being cast on the move or is there a way to turn that off?

cheers bud

 

[frostinheart]

A question.

Everytime i move out of rune of power it re-cast rune of power even if ur in range of it.

Is there any way to prevent this?

 

[dilbog]

A question.

Everytime i move out of rune of power it re-cast rune of power even if ur in range of it.

Is there any way to prevent this?

might sound like a joke but run back in or it will recast on your new patch even if you are within the outer rings

 

[Millz]

Umms yea the whole point fire atm is to abuse potent flames. I really suggest you have a look on methodwow fire mage guide.

Also just wondering because I was asked by another player but cant remember, on the frost rotation when moving will it cast ice lance? Just asking because he is mastery spec and is cursing because ice lance is being cast on the move or is there a way to turn that off?

cheers bud

This: MoP Fire Mage Guide ??

The first post doesn't mention Potent Flames at all. Didn't go digging through the thread.

Yeah it'll ice lance while moving. Why would you want to disable/stop that? Just means it'll consume any stored up icicle charges - but it doesn't affect the amount of damage those charges would do.

A question.

Everytime i move out of rune of power it re-cast rune of power even if ur in range of it.

Is there any way to prevent this?

It's checking for the Rune of Power aura (Rune of Power - Spell - World of Warcraft)

If the aura isn't present, or RoP is about to fade, then it'll re-cast. The very outer rings mustn't provide the buff (in which case you would want to re-cast it).

 

[dilbog]

This: MoP Fire Mage Guide ??

The first post doesn't mention Potent Flames at all. Didn't go digging through the thread.

Yeah it'll ice lance while moving. Why would you want to disable/stop that? Just means it'll consume any stored up icicle charges - but it doesn't affect the amount of damage those charges would do.



It's checking for the Rune of Power aura (Rune of Power - Spell - World of Warcraft)

If the aura isn't present, or RoP is about to fade, then it'll re-cast. The very outer rings mustn't provide the buff (in which case you would want to re-cast it).

Yea it's in there somewhere m8, but agreed finding info on fire is a pain in the arse.

As for the icicle some guys who are heavy mastery will only want it cast on a proc even while moving as the passive damage from it out weighs anything you get from casting ice lance.

 

[Millz]

Yea it's in there somewhere m8, but agreed finding info on fire is a pain in the arse.

As for the icicle some guys who are heavy mastery will only want it cast on a proc even while moving as the passive damage from it out weighs anything you get from casting ice lance.

Passive damage from icicles? There isn't any passive damage from them? It's always better to cast Ice Lance when moving I believe.

Will have a search through the thread tomorrow.

 

[Stjarne]

At phase 4 heroic Garrosh Hellscream with this routine as a frost mage.
It pwns ass!

 

[dilbog]

Passive damage from icicles? There isn't any passive damage from them? It's always better to cast Ice Lance when moving I believe.

Will have a search through the thread tomorrow.

The original PTR design caused them to double dip on Resil. This no longer happens. A 100k cast will only hit for 28k (Assuming 72% resil), however your Icicle will be based off of the unmodified value. So if you have, say, 30% Mastery, Your 100k cast will hit for 28k and generate an Icicle for 30k that will hit for 8.4k against that same target later on.

You can build up to 5 charges. If you generate a 6th, the oldest will automatically be launched at your current target, ensuring that none are wasted.

Taken from a post.

 

[Millz]

Portal Prem suddenly stopped working for me
already did a clean install of hb and Portal, but it does not fight. It only uses skills like Ice Floes, Block or any other defensive skill
Other routines are working.

Weird, there's nothing obvious in the log files. Have you tried reverting the SVN to a previous version to see if it works?

Normally I'd just say reload honorbuddy, but sounds like you've already done that.

The original PTR design caused them to double dip on Resil. This no longer happens. A 100k cast will only hit for 28k (Assuming 72% resil), however your Icicle will be based off of the unmodified value. So if you have, say, 30% Mastery, Your 100k cast will hit for 28k and generate an Icicle for 30k that will hit for 8.4k against that same target later on.

You can build up to 5 charges. If you generate a 6th, the oldest will automatically be launched at your current target, ensuring that none are wasted.

Taken from a post.

To be perfectly honest, I don't think Honorbuddy even has the API to track icicle charges. Only way around that would be using lua, however that would slow the routine down massively.

With Ice Floes it's not going to get many Ice Lance casts off anyway though - and that's what most frost mages are taking.

Regardless of whether the icicles are used with 1 charge or 5 charges, it would still dish out the same amount of respective damage (i.e. 1 charge = 10k, 5 charges = 50k).

It's better off casting those extra ice lance's for the few thousand damage as opposed to not doing any damage.

 

[dilbog]

To be perfectly honest, I don't think Honorbuddy even has the API to track icicle charges. Only way around that would be using lua, however that would slow the routine down massively.

With Ice Floes it's not going to get many Ice Lance casts off anyway though - and that's what most frost mages are taking.

Regardless of whether the icicles are used with 1 charge or 5 charges, it would still dish out the same amount of respective damage (i.e. 1 charge = 10k, 5 charges = 50k).

It's better off casting those extra ice lance's for the few thousand damage as opposed to not doing any damage.

As I said before I am asking for another member I play with, but you are making assumptions about ice lance with regards to icicle generation and that casting ice lance on cooldown is better than the 6th icicle being cast while moving, His raiding logs show different against another mage with near enough same ilvl he is always beaten. The other mage is not a botter and pretty shabby player tbh but with mastery spec it's playing to his advantage.
You dont need HB to check for it just add a option for turning ice lance off while moving might be a idea? I'm gonna take the dust off my mage and test out high mastery build and see what he is talking about as tbh I want to see for myself playing manually.

EDIT: Just run some lfr's in heavy mastery spec, 37.58 haste, 94.38% mastery and 32% crit and there does indeed seem to be some issue with casting ice lance in cool down while moving about 3% lost icicle damage with ice lance increasing by 1.4% so casting ice lance on proc while moving is all you want to do in that setup. All in all it's about 1.5~3.0% loss.