MAD (Miraculum Apocatstasis Druidae)

[jacobfraer]

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[jacobfraer]

Mirabis i think i know what the problem is about swiftmend and 1.4.0 above versions!

Watch this: Removed, bitches!

It only casts swiftmend if i have a friendly target. There has to be a hot. If i manually cast a reju, it immediately casts swiftmend.
Watch carefully, and you will se the different things i tested.

Here is the log (the log has more bosses in it, before the one boss that's in the video)
http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/1Yemjeyu_.txt

Please let me know when you have watched the video long enough to understand the problem, i dont want it to be public.

 

[Mirabis]

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Mirabis i think i know what the problem is about swiftmend and 1.4.0 above versions!

Watch this: <Removed>

It only casts swiftmend if i have a friendly target. There has to be a hot. If i manually cast a reju, it immediately casts swiftmend.
Watch carefully, and you will se the different things i tested.

Here is the log (the log has more bosses in it, before the one boss that's in the video) <Removed>

Please let me know when you have watched the video long enough to understand the problem, i dont want it to be public.

U may remove the links, I've saved them. I saw u tried to PM me but my inbox was full... Apologies

Looked at it:
2# Hehe hard to watch the active hots on default frame ;(
3# Seems that ur right, never watched it myself as I always have a target somehow.. ( playstyle )
4# Tomorrow, I'll be developing for a bunch of hours, would u mind contacting me on skype:
4b# We could do a major push, since u've been giving valuable feedback multiple times already.

 

[Dan73]

1# Use the Tyrael Pause
2# I'm not a supporter of auto healing Tsulong, also no-other cc seems to be doing this.
3# I've tried multiple times to force a exact sequence of spell casts but honorbuddy doesn't allow me to do more then 2 quee'd spells atm.
4# Actively scanning for tsulong adds a overhead to the cc, causing more lag/slowdowns.

You could make a simple check if target is tsulong and friendly.
User would need to target Tsulong.

 

[jacobfraer]

You could make a simple check if target is tsulong and friendly.
User would need to target Tsulong.

What Mirabis said, makes perfect sense about adding Tsulong in the script will cause too many scannings and create massive lags and maybe even errors. This will destroy your HPS and even create a wipe later on, because of lack of Tsulong healing.
What i suggest you do, is that you bind a Tyrael hotkey for PAUSING Tyrael on Daylight-Tsulong. When breath comes, just get some massive hots on that stupid dragon, and people will love your healing (1 reju, 1 wild growth, 1 lifebloom reset (lifebloom glyph), and if you have time, 1 regrowth) - Dont overwrite the hots, by using them outside breath They will then be totally normal, and have normal HPS, which isnt enough.

Sorry if you already knew this, im not trying to be a smart-ass or undermine you, i just assumed that you needed help

U may remove the links, I've saved them. I saw u tried to PM me but my inbox was full... Apologies

Looked at it:
2# Hehe hard to watch the active hots on default frame ;(
3# Seems that ur right, never watched it myself as I always have a target somehow.. ( playstyle )
4# Tomorrow, I'll be developing for a bunch of hours, would u mind contacting me on skype:
4b# We could do a major push, since u've been giving valuable feedback multiple times already.

But it is very weird, because i never play with a target (i play with the boss as my target, so i can keep Moonfire up and Wrath him).
In 1.4.0 it didn't matter if there was a target or not, swiftmend would ALWAYS be up! (maybe a little too much uptime, but its cool )
As soon as 1.4.2 (it could also be 1.4.3, i'm not 100 % sure) came out, the swiftmend problem occured, and i really can't figure out why!

And im sorry to say, but i can skype with you, but it will be a monolog, because i have no microphone at the moment (broken (but i can livechat and you can talk, thats perfectly fine - i'm here to help all i can))

2# Hehe hard to watch the active hots on default frame ;(

Hmm when you say frame, I assume that you mean the raid frame - i will install the "healbot" addon, which is much more easier to observe where the hots are. When i have it installed i will make a new video for you, if that is needed. - or have you seen what you need to see?
- It will be a 10-man normal guildraid, so there will be much less lagging than 25-LFR - healbot, less lag and a more stable kbps streaming will give you a nicer view. I raid at 21-24 tonight, so expect the video late-night, or tomorrow

By the way in the current video, there is no mouse on the screen (sadly). But you know when i cast a manual reju, because i held my mouse over the spell for 3-4 seconds, so you can see the "reju spell description" in the bottom right corner. THAT is when i cast it manually, to get a MAD-auto-swiftmend going

 

[Mirabis]

You could make a simple check if target is tsulong and friendly.
User would need to target Tsulong.

What Mirabis said, makes perfect sense about adding Tsulong in the script will cause too many scannings and create massive lags and maybe even errors. This will destroy your HPS and even create a wipe later on, because of lack of Tsulong healing.
What i suggest you do, is that you bind a Tyrael hotkey for PAUSING Tyrael on Daylight-Tsulong. When breath comes, just get some massive hots on that stupid dragon, and people will love your healing (1 reju, 1 wild growth, 1 lifebloom reset (lifebloom glyph), and if you have time, 1 regrowth) - Dont overwrite the hots, by using them outside breath They will then be totally normal, and have normal HPS, which isnt enough.

Sorry if you already knew this, im not trying to be a smart-ass or undermine you, i just assumed that you needed help



But it is very weird, because i never play with a target (i play with the boss as my target, so i can keep Moonfire up and Wrath him).
In 1.4.0 it didn't matter if there was a target or not, swiftmend would ALWAYS be up! (maybe a little too much uptime, but its cool )
As soon as 1.4.2 (it could also be 1.4.3, i'm not 100 % sure) came out, the swiftmend problem occured, and i really can't figure out why!

And im sorry to say, but i can skype with you, but it will be a monolog, because i have no microphone at the moment (broken (but i can livechat and you can talk, thats perfectly fine - i'm here to help all i can))




Hmm when you say frame, I assume that you mean the raid frame - i will install the "healbot" addon, which is much more easier to observe where the hots are. When i have it installed i will make a new video for you, if that is needed. - or have you seen what you need to see?
- It will be a 10-man normal guildraid, so there will be much less lagging than 25-LFR - healbot, less lag and a more stable kbps streaming will give you a nicer view. I raid at 21-24 tonight, so expect the video late-night, or tomorrow

By the way in the current video, there is no mouse on the screen (sadly). But you know when i cast a manual reju, because i held my mouse over the spell for 3-4 seconds, so you can see the "reju spell description" in the bottom right corner. THAT is when i cast it manually, to get a MAD-auto-swiftmend going

1# No problem, monolog is fine too.
1b# Add me: "Miraveux"

2# The Video was good, know what u mean now.

 

[koadan]

I can't seem to get this CC working, I tried it with tyrael and lazyraider, and only way it starts working when I enable framelock on tyrael but then wow freezes with 3fps...
It only occasionally casts lifebloom or regrowth, i tried messing `with the class config, it's weird, is this familiar to anyone and does he/she hve a solution, I seen it work once and I thought it was an amazing CC.
Log following soon.

 

[Dan73]

What Mirabis said, makes perfect sense about adding Tsulong in the script will cause too many scannings and create massive lags and maybe even errors. This will destroy your HPS and even create a wipe later on, because of lack of Tsulong healing.
What i suggest you do, is that you bind a Tyrael hotkey for PAUSING Tyrael on Daylight-Tsulong. When breath comes, just get some massive hots on that stupid dragon, and people will love your healing (1 reju, 1 wild growth, 1 lifebloom reset (lifebloom glyph), and if you have time, 1 regrowth) - Dont overwrite the hots, by using them outside breath They will then be totally normal, and have normal HPS, which isnt enough.

I wasn't talking about "scanning for Tsulong" only a users target check, which means it would only heal Tsulong if the user has Tsulong as target.
No scanning or complicated iterations needed to get this done, it's a unique check done once per cycle.

Anyway, personally I don't care if it gets implemented or not since I don't PvE with my druid and since the routine is mostly crashing in arenas I stopped using it.
Maybe I'll try again next season or just play it myself.

 

[jacobfraer]

I can't seem to get this CC working, I tried it with tyrael and lazyraider, and only way it starts working when I enable framelock on tyrael but then wow freezes with 3fps...
It only occasionally casts lifebloom or regrowth, i tried messing `with the class config, it's weird, is this familiar to anyone and does he/she hve a solution, I seen it work once and I thought it was an amazing CC.
Log following soon.

Try Tyrael with the following settings:

Disable plugins
TPS: 30
Framelock ON

& use the latest Public build (1.4.3)

If your computer can't run these settings, i would buy a new one if i were you.

My laptop can do it with 60 TPS and framelock on (i5 (2,5 ghz))

 

[koadan]

Try Tyrael with the following settings:

Disable plugins
TPS: 30
Framelock ON

& use the latest Public build (1.4.3)

If your computer can't run these settings, i would buy a new one if i were you.

My laptop can do it with 60 TPS and framelock on (i5 (2,5 ghz))

Buying a new PC isn't going to happen since this one is less then a year old...
With AMD 3,6 quadcore
nvidia 550 GTI
and 8gig ram...

I am playing windowed(fullscreen) at ultra, I'm gonna try letting it run on low...

 

[Mirabis]

I wasn't talking about "scanning for Tsulong" only a users target check, which means it would only heal Tsulong if the user has Tsulong as target.
No scanning or complicated iterations needed to get this done, it's a unique check done once per cycle.

Anyway, personally I don't care if it gets implemented or not since I don't PvE with my druid and since the routine is mostly crashing in arenas I stopped using it.
Maybe I'll try again next season or just play it myself.

1# E.g. we'll have to check if we have a target and then compare info's to see if it's Tsulong.
1a# Have to check if he's friendly etc
1b# If it's not tsulong ,we waste time scanning for all of this.
1c# The check would've been run every 500ms or so, even when not around Tsulong.
1d# Implementing checks to not scan, causes time too.

2# Well, a bummer to hear... tried my best fixing it. Public version hasn't received a push for a while as I've been developing a lot and it's not stable yet.
2a# Should be fixed on developer release for quite some time

Try Tyrael with the following settings:

Disable plugins
TPS: 30
Framelock ON

& use the latest Public build (1.4.3)

If your computer can't run these settings, i would buy a new one if i were you.

My laptop can do it with 60 TPS and framelock on (i5 (2,5 ghz))

Buying a new PC isn't going to happen since this one is less then a year old...
With AMD 3,6 quadcore
nvidia 550 GTI
and 8gig ram...

I am playing windowed(fullscreen) at ultra, I'm gonna try letting it run on low...

Lol... why run @ Ultra.

 

[Dan73]

1# E.g. we'll have to check if we have a target and then compare info's to see if it's Tsulong.
1a# Have to check if he's friendly etc
1b# If it's not tsulong ,we waste time scanning for all of this.
1c# The check would've been run every 500ms or so, even when not around Tsulong.
1d# Implementing checks to not scan, causes time too.

What do you exactly mean by scanning?

To me scanning is more like : iteration that goes thru a list (which does indeed take some time depending on how long the list is)

What I mean is a simple throttling : going thru checks one by one while stopping as early as possible.

Example :

if (Me.GotTarget && Me.CurrentTarget.Entry == 62442 && Me.CurrentTarget.IsFriendly) { ... }

If the first check (GotTarget) fails it wont even bother going thru the rest.

 

[tuanha]

What do you exactly mean by scanning?

To me scanning is more like : iteration that goes thru a list (which does indeed take some time depending on how long the list is)

What I mean is a simple throttling : going thru checks one by one while stopping as early as possible.

Example :

if (Me.GotTarget && Me.CurrentTarget.Entry == 62442 && Me.CurrentTarget.IsFriendly) { ... }

If the first check (GotTarget) fails it wont even bother going thru the rest.

What Mirabis mean is it not WORTH adding more special code to check Tsulong.

Sure he can make a special code that heal amazing in Tsulong fight and use the best rotation on Day Phase... but more complicated code come with a price: It slow CR down on every else.

I also remove special code on Tsulong on my CRs as I think it not worth it... Top healing at Tsulong and bad at everything else is a worst trade imo

 

[jacobfraer]

Buying a new PC isn't going to happen since this one is less then a year old...
With AMD 3,6 quadcore
nvidia 550 GTI
and 8gig ram...

I am playing windowed(fullscreen) at ultra, I'm gonna try letting it run on low...

We all have framelock lag. Live with it
I have 5-10 FPS too, but i actually dont think its a problem. I can still get moved in raids, if there are floor debuffs and such. No problemo flaminga, just get used to it, or dont use it, mate.
And yeah.. dont play ultra.. WoW is bad graphics anyway (view distance, environmental detail and particle density on highest possible though)

 

[Deathshiver]

What Mirabis mean is it not WORTH adding more special code to check Tsulong.

Sure he can make a special code that heal amazing in Tsulong fight and use the best rotation on Day Phase... but more complicated code come with a price: It slow CR down on every else.

I also remove special code on Tsulong on my CRs as I think it not worth it... Top healing at Tsulong and bad at everything else is a worst trade imo

Here's the thing I think you guys are missing TuanHA and Mirabis:

They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Just make a separate rotation for those bosses only. It doesn't even have to be automatically loaded since that would slow everything else down. Give us an option or ability to load boss-specific logic, even if it means that we have to check a specific option to enable scanning for bosses or even load a second routine entirely. I'm completely fine with taking 60 seconds to change stuff up if it means I can contribute that much more to a fight.

 

[Gamirsh]

Cant find out why this CC doesn't work for me when doing bgbuddy

 

[amputations]

Mirabis, patch comes this reset. Have you read the patchnotes for restodruids and have something nice in store? We got some buffs finally ^^ And mushrooms have new utility.

 

[Mirabis]

Mirabis, patch comes this reset. Have you read the patchnotes for restodruids and have something nice in store? We got some buffs finally ^^ And mushrooms have new utility.

Yes, have been testing stuff last 2-3 weeks already. Mushrooms is a PiTA though. Have some optimizations on target picking for max HPS. Little rotation tweaks for higher output etc.

Will do my best

 

[amputations]

Allright Im looking forward to it, I really love MAD the only thing that has made me take team nova pqr-profile instead has been the framelock lag. I see "Leaves" in your sig now, is that an upcoming routine?

Ah I see it takes you to your website, an elite resto-profile I guess? ^^

 

[Mirabis]

Allright Im looking forward to it, I really love MAD the only thing that has made me take team nova pqr-profile instead has been the framelock lag. I see "Leaves" in your sig now, is that an upcoming routine?

Ah I see it takes you to your website, an elite resto-profile I guess? ^^

Yes, I'm aware of the lag issues almost all healing cc's seem to suffer from it... Working together with Pure Team to fix it.

Also yes "Leaves" is my new project, more info too come.