LazyRaider - Holy Cow!

[Ama]

had to fix some problems with my last contribution where no focus was set ...
it should now heal properly

Thanks for your help! Ill put this up soon, just want to do a couple runs with it first.

 

[Stormchasing]

for sure, i would do so to if someone is editing my work
had a couple of runs now for debugging some things, but all ended with "this is a hb bug"
the changes aren't very extensive
- Dispelling Disrupting Shadows
- Import Tank from Focus if focus is a player
i didn't changed the priority or something else

 

[control143]

Nice CC, working good (testing it in an LFR raid) Might start using this in normals/hc even.

Edit: Seems if i put a boss on focus that it starts spamming Beacon of Light tho .

 

[iargue]

Why do all of the Paladin CC's rely heavily on Divine Light?

:|

Tried this profile on default settings. Spammed Divine Life until I ran out of mana on the first trash pull on a heroic instance

 

[Ama]

Nice CC, working good (testing it in an LFR raid) Might start using this in normals/hc even.

Edit: Seems if i put a boss on focus that it starts spamming Beacon of Light tho .

It uses focus as the tank. Its the way I always play: Focus=tank, Target=tank target(boss)

Why do all of the Paladin CC's rely heavily on Divine Light?

:|

Tried this profile on default settings. Spammed Divine Life until I ran out of mana on the first trash pull on a heroic instance

It only uses Divine like if the heal target is within the settings. Default is 35%-70%. It is very low in the priority too, so holy shock and word of glory are used first. So your comment is not helpful at all. Without a log I don't know any of the circumstances in which you entered the instance. For all I know, you could be a ret or prot paladin.

 

[iargue]

I've never ever ever ever in my live read a holy paladin guide that says "Use Divine life if they are below 70%" Maybe if they are blow 45%, sure. Holy Light is our bred and butter and should be used in all cases long before Divine Light. Divine Light is an oh shit spell, not a standard healing spell.... It has the worse mana efficiency of all of our spells.

 

[NickV]

It's working fine.
If you have crap gear, lower the Holy Radiance %.
If that Mord**** guy was the tank, I would've left after that pull. Those Flame guys should be purged or spellstolen, or melee should try to avoid. (Until outgeared anyway)

Seems like you are new to Holy Pallies AND had a crap group.

Slightly outdated info below (i.e. Holy radiance), but Divine Light should be a fairly standard heal.

Holy Light
Holy Light is our bread and butter spell in Cataclysm. When you have nothing better to cast, cast Holy Light to fish for Daybreak procs.

Holy Shock
Holy Shock heals fairly well in Cataclysm, and has quite good Healing per Mana (HPM), but the primary purpose is to generate Holy Power. Unless somebody is need of a big heal (Flash of Light or Divine Light), Holy Shock should be used on cooldown, so as to not waste Daybreak procs, to maximize Holy Power gains, and to maximize Infusion of Light procs. Infusion of Light procs are incredibly important and should always be used on Divine Light when possible

Divine Light
Divine Light is one of our best heals. It has relatively low Healing per Mana (HPM), but incredibly high Healing per Second (HPS), especially when Infusion of Light procs. You should be using Divine Light whenever you need to heal somebody up quickly ? not super quick because then you?d want to use Flash of Light, but moderately quick. If you didn?t need to heal them up quickly, try to use more Holy Light. It is very standard for top Paladins to have 30%+ of their healing done with Divine Light, and with all of our ways of regenerating mana, there is no reason to be scared to use a lot of it.

Word of Glory
When you have three Holy Power, you get a choice between spending it on Word of Glory or Light of Dawn. Word of Glory is a powerful, mana-free, instant cast targeted heal.

See "3.1. Holy Power Use" in "3. General Mechanics" below for more details.

Light of Dawn
The other option to spend your Holy Power is Light of Dawn. It is a medium-strength, mana-free, instant cast AoE heal. It is very powerful when people are grouped up.

See "3.1. Holy Power Use" in "3. General Mechanics" below for more details.

Holy Radiance
Holy Radiance is a powerful new healing cooldown in Cataclysm. It lasts for 10 seconds on a 30 second cooldown, so it has a fairly high uptime, and heals everyone within 10 yards (although it diminishes in effect past 8 yards) for a fairly good amount. There are a very large number of situations in Cataclysm where your party or raid have to stack up, so using Holy Radiance every time you?re in range of 3+ people is a good idea. The spell will benefit from your Haste and Critical Strike but not your Mastery shields. Holy Radiance should always be used right after a Divine Favor to give it a few extra ticks (as long as there are players around you, of course).

Flash of Light
Flash of Light is ?a quick, expensive heal?. The problem is that Flash of Light is VERY expensive for the amount that it heals on average. Flash of Light?s Healing per Mana (HPM) is much lower than that of Divine Light. It does have a higher Healing per Second (HPS) than Divine Light (without the proc, otherwise Divine Light is better). It is therefore only usually used in situations where the person is in danger of dying extremely quickly. Chimaeron is a good example of a fight that Flash of Light is commonly used on. It?s also great to snipe other healers on trash pulls and other fights that will end before you run out of mana (I?m kidding, kind of).

 

[Ama]

Divine light takes the longest time to cast out of all your direct healing spells. How could it be an "oh shit" spell? Nonetheless, you can achieve the results you want by adjusting your settings.

First for your understanding we look at part of the CCs spell priority...

1) Word of Glory (if 3 stacks)
2) Holy Shock (if available)
3) Holy Radiance (if conditions met)
4) Flash of Light (hp<35)
5) <<Beacon>> (hp>beacon setting)
6) Divine Light (hp<70)
7) Holy Light (hp<95)

From the looks, you have your beacon heal setting pretty low. Default is 50, which is a same number IMO. If you want to see less divine light, set that number between your flash and holy light settings. If you make it lower the flash, you are creating an unreachable spell. I can see no errors in the log, just the CC doing what you told it to. The part at the bottom where you see Beacon Healing a few times is due to you being unable to cast Divine light or Holy light at that moment. I would assume that is from movement.

The priority in the CC is from my knowledge of the Holy Paladin spec. I have had a lot of success with this and agree with this priority. If you have another perspective on paladin healing, feel free to write a CC yourself. New CCs are always welcome in this community.

 

[iargue]

None of my settings have been changed from the default setting.

I healed the first fight with this bot, turned it off and went to the UPACCBT bot (With divine light set the 45%) and the bot healed the entire instance without going below 50% manage. Whereas, this one went to 0 on the first trash pull.

 

[arenty]

Is it Posible that you can fix so it doesnt dispell target with Unstable Affliction, Vemperic Touch, Flame Shock ? Cuz this CC rocks in Bg/rbgs using it all the time

 

[Ama]

Is it Posible that you can fix so it doesnt dispell target with Unstable Affliction, Vemperic Touch, Flame Shock ? Cuz this CC rocks in Bg/rbgs using it all the time

for this I would suggest turning dispelling off and just put any specifics in your urgent dispel list. Dispelling and urgent dispelling are actually two separate actions, so turning off dispelling will not disable urgent dispelling.

 

[arenty]

for this I would suggest turning dispelling off and just put any specifics in your urgent dispel list. Dispelling and urgent dispelling are actually two separate actions, so turning off dispelling will not disable urgent dispelling.

But then it will still dispell Unstable Affliction, Vemperic Touch, Flame Shock if id choose to urgent dispell for example frost nova

 

[Ama]

But then it will still dispell Unstable Affliction, Vemperic Touch, Flame Shock if id choose to urgent dispell for example frost nova

if you turn of normal dispelling and add only frost nova to urgent list, frost nova will be the only thing that gets dispelled.

 

[arenty]

if you turn of normal dispelling and add only frost nova to urgent list, frost nova will be the only thing that gets dispelled.

But what if he HAS Vemperic Touch and then get nova;ed ..

 

[Stormchasing]

if you turn of normal dispelling and add only frost nova to urgent list, frost nova will be the only thing that gets dispelled.

ajsf, take a look into Ultimate, there's a solution for this problem
This is a known problem in PVP, u can't only dispel, u have to check the debuffs if Vampiric Touch or Unstable Affliction or Flame Shock are present then DO NOT dispel!!!

 

[Ama]

ajsf, take a look into Ultimate, there's a solution for this problem
This is a known problem in PVP, u can't only dispel, u have to check the debuffs if Vampiric Touch or Unstable Affliction or Flame Shock are present then DO NOT dispel!!!

ohh... OK, I think i understand now. What is the consequence of dispelling in this situation?

 

[arenty]

ohh... OK, I think i understand now. What is the consequence of dispelling in this situation?

Like if my Arena Partner has Nova it should dispell IMMEDIATELY regardless of hes hp
If me Arena Partner has Vampiric Touch or Unstable Affliction or Flame Shock and get nova;d it should not dispell

 

[Venus112]

ohh... OK, I think i understand now. What is the consequence of dispelling in this situation?

Getting feared, silenced or a elemental shaman with a whopping extra 90 % haste for 6 seconds

 

[MoonBerry]

is there a way to put tank priority or raid so if im the tank healer it will only heal the tank

 

[Ama]

is there a way to put tank priority or raid so if im the tank healer it will only heal the tank

There is a tank minimum health setting. Set it high. So if you make it 90, he will not heal anyone else if the tank is below 90. Or you can use the selective healing and healing only those you wan t to. I usually set my tank min health to 50, you could probably keep him topped of if you set it to 75 or so.