Initial gearing

[kettlecorn]

Where do you all get your gold initially to gear your bots? Just got my monk up to 60 but need about 30m for the monk build. Should i buy from blizzard or go with a 3rd party website? Ive used 3rd party before and theyre cheaper but im just worried ill get flagged due to the amount of gold I'll have with very little playtime.

EDIT: I just realized it's pretty stupid cause I can't BUY gold from blizzard cause this account doesn't have my paypal setup on it. only my main does. So if I get money from my main or a 3rd party website like cheapdiablo it'll still be the same. fuck it, im just buying 30m and getting it over with. But id still like to hear all yalls input on how you get your initial start up funds

 

[Tinnvec]

I would really just start by mfing the highest difficulty your monk can handle, I wouldn't put any actual cash in to the game, soon enough you'll hate the decision if you do.

 

[kettlecorn]

I would really just start by mfing the highest difficulty your monk can handle, I wouldn't put any actual cash in to the game, soon enough you'll hate the decision if you do.

Well the gear it has on is self found gear. it just hit level 60 so it has like 10k DPS. Im talking initial gearing.. right now it cant even do act 1 inferno. lol

 

[Tinnvec]

Well the gear it has on is self found gear. it just hit level 60 so it has like 10k DPS. Im talking initial gearing.. right now it cant even do act 1 inferno. lol

Yup, I would really start mfing hell a3 or whatever you can handle, if you really feel like you need to put actual money in to the game, I won't be the one to dissuade you, but I really think in less than a week you're going to hate the fact that you could have made enough gold to buy whatever you want instead of putting up real cash.

 

[Job2k9]

You could buy gold. I just farmed gold w/ crappy gear and improved it slowly. Now that I know what pieces are needed I could gear a fresh 60 monk for dirt cheap. Spending 30mill for one set of gear is overkill imo.

Edit:
I take that back, I just added up my gear on the ah and its about that much. The thing for me was constantly buying upgrades, sidegrades, and figuring out what worked best.

Perhaps I can save you a few million with this advice:

• Helm: Get an Inna's helm with all res as well as another element resist (whichever is cheaper). After you figure out which resist is cheapest you can stack this w/ all res on everything. We can call it X Res
• Shoulders: Dex, VIt, Armor, All Res, X Res, Pickup radius.
• Ammy: Dex, Vit, All Res, X Res, Crit chance / dmg or both
• Hand: Tasker and Theo are really cheap. Grab a pair with X Res.
• Chest: Inna's.with X Res.
• Bracer: Lacuni with Dex, Vit, X Res, PIckup Radius
• Rings: Dex, Vit, All Res and or X Res, Crit chance / damage. You can balance crit stats with these. I use a Nat's reflection to get the 2 set 7% crit.
• Pants: Depth Diggers with Dex, Vit, X Res, These are super cheap and you get a nice 20/20 gf/mf bump.
• Belt: Dex, Vit, All Res and or X Res, Pickup radius. Innas is nice too.
• Boots: Nat's boots w/ all res, X res,
• Weapons: Shenlong's fist weaps are great. If you can grab ones with sockets you are set (only one of mine has a socket so far). The only life on hit stat I have comes from the MH SHenlongs and with just 958 LoH my monk is unkillable.

I refined my gear a few times and would probably do it more if the bot wasn't performing so well. I was thinking on getting Inna's 4 piece but why bother shifting gear and wasting gold when hes pulling in 600gph. Hope this helps ya some.

 

[kettlecorn]

Yup, I would really start mfing hell a3 or whatever you can handle, if you really feel like you need to put actual money in to the game, I won't be the one to dissuade you, but I really think in less than a week you're going to hate the fact that you could have made enough gold to buy whatever you want instead of putting up real cash.

damn really? how much gold would i make botting hell for a week? my first bot experience so i really have no clue.

You could buy gold. I just farmed gold w/ crappy gear and improved it slowly. Now that I know what pieces are needed I could gear a fresh 60 monk for dirt cheap. Spending 30mill for one set of gear is overkill imo.

how much would you spend on a fresh monk to gear? Im assuming you're talking about the monk cannon build? It's not expensive but its not too cheap. Shooting for nearly 90k DPS with 750AR and other things like CC, movement speed and even Magic find would cost quite a lot.
I figure gold costs are so low 30mil costs around $8. If i put down $8 the faster I'll diddle around and hopefully make it back. As far as I'm concerned, time is money considering the clock is ticking on the ban clock.

I just put down $5-6 for 20mil.. we'll see if that's enough. i want MF gear. haha

 

[maldymann]

Yup, I would really start mfing hell a3 or whatever you can handle, if you really feel like you need to put actual money in to the game, I won't be the one to dissuade you, but I really think in less than a week you're going to hate the fact that you could have made enough gold to buy whatever you want instead of putting up real cash.

That actually sounds like pretty bad advice. Say it takes him a week to find enough gold / items in Act 3 hell to run Ac3 inferno at a good pace. He would make 30m easily by botting act 3 inferno with bot gear. Its a waste of time.

Buy gold / gear monk / profit....

You will get the 30m back in a day or 2 instead of farming for a week.

 

[Tinnvec]

That actually sounds like pretty bad advice. Say it takes him a week to find enough gold / items in Act 3 hell to run Ac3 inferno at a good pace. He would make 30m easily by botting act 3 inferno with bot gear. Its a waste of time.

Buy gold / gear monk / profit....

You will get the 30m back in a day or 2 instead of farming for a week.

I simply prefer full profit. Less than 2 months ago I didn't bot. Now, spending $0 to blizz, I have 4 ridiculously geared chars, 100M+ gold in the bank at any given time, and actual dollars via pay pal on top of that.

 

[Job2k9]

I edited my previous post with more info. For startup gold I would also suggest picking up cheap GF gear and probably trying out hell or even nm act 3 runs for a day or two. I would assume that would generate a few million with little trouble.

 

[maldymann]

I simply prefer full profit. Less than 2 months ago I didn't bot. Now, spending $0 to blizz, I have 4 ridiculously geared chars, 100M+ gold in the bank at any given time, and actual dollars via pay pal on top of that.

I understand trying not to spend money on bots but what ur telling him to do is lose a week of botting just to gear a bot. In that week he is trying to gain gold or gear to run act 3 efficiently in inferno he could have found that 1 in a million drop worth 2b or just found a pair of ice climbers worth 30m and he is even.

He could make his money back in the first hour essentially losing a week of botting.

Spend $10-15 on gold and gear your bot. You will make it back sooner than you think. Time not botting inferno is time wasted IMO

Get a cheap Andys helm with a socket then stack poison res.

 

[kettlecorn]

I understand trying not to spend money on bots but what ur telling him to do is lose a week of botting just to gear a bot. In that week he is trying to gain gold or gear to run act 3 efficiently in inferno he could have found that 1 in a million drop worth 2b or just found a pair of ice climbers worth 30m and he is even.

He could make his money back in the first hour essentially losing a week of botting.

Spend $10-15 on gold and gear your bot. You will make it back sooner than you think. Time not botting inferno is time wasted IMO

Get a cheap Andys helm with a socket then stack poison res.

Thanks brotha, just did that. I haven't bought anything yet but I figured with botting time is money. In every sense of the word. I think I'd rather pay and put a small down payment on some initial gear. 20m so far but I'm not sure if that'll cut it. It's quite amazing though that just a few months ago, maybe even 2-3 I got so bored with my main account (before I knew about botting) I ended up spending $40 USD trying to gear my barb. It was stupid hahah i laugh at myself now cause i ended up buying like 10 mediocre weapons instead of just 1 good one LOL. boredom will do that to you. But now that gold is so cheap, I can deck out this monk or even start up 40m WW barb for like $10.
Just one good item sold on the RMAH (hopefully???) and i'll make it back. Plus I'll have to make some extra to pay for d3 and db as those were my initial investments as well.

I'm rolling with the mentality that I'm going to get banned even if I don't do 24/7 yet, just started up and use VMware. Cant waste time

 

[Job2k9]

The monk cannon build was what I started with as well. It works great until you hit elites that don't go down quick enough and your monk melts in their various aoe. LoH is where its at for survival. On kill is great until you hit the tough guys that don't go down fast.

I use THIS build now. He rarely uses serenity which is what I was thinking on replacing with wave of light if i ever bothered to work innas belt and pants into his gear. It would jump his dps up quite a bit and I'd have to put him up to mp2 or 3, but mp0 is just too good to me to be bothered.

 

[maldymann]

I use the monk cannon build and have 119k dps. Elites are no problem for me at all. Look into a stone of jordan if your having trouble w/ elites.

Also go w/ innas belt,pants,and chest. Not worth the 4 piece.

 

[Job2k9]

Inna's 4 piece basically lets you use sweeping wind with the cyclone rune and wave of light with no spirit issues.

 

[maldymann]

Inna's 4 piece basically lets you use sweeping wind with the cyclone rune and wave of light with no spirit issues.

My sweeping wind is a one time cast as it has the extended duration. I prefer attack speed on a mempo rather than crit. With the monk cannon build you need to be able to go from mob to mob quickly. The more attack speed the more life you get. I feel like attack speed is the most important stat.

 

[kettlecorn]

You could buy gold. I just farmed gold w/ crappy gear and improved it slowly. Now that I know what pieces are needed I could gear a fresh 60 monk for dirt cheap. Spending 30mill for one set of gear is overkill imo.

Edit:
I take that back, I just added up my gear on the ah and its about that much. The thing for me was constantly buying upgrades, sidegrades, and figuring out what worked best.

Perhaps I can save you a few million with this advice:

• Helm: Get an Inna's helm with all res as well as another element resist (whichever is cheaper). After you figure out which resist is cheapest you can stack this w/ all res on everything. We can call it X Res
• Shoulders: Dex, VIt, Armor, All Res, X Res, Pickup radius.
• Ammy: Dex, Vit, All Res, X Res, Crit chance / dmg or both
• Hand: Tasker and Theo are really cheap. Grab a pair with X Res.
• Chest: Inna's.with X Res.
• Bracer: Lacuni with Dex, Vit, X Res, PIckup Radius
• Rings: Dex, Vit, All Res and or X Res, Crit chance / damage. You can balance crit stats with these. I use a Nat's reflection to get the 2 set 7% crit.
• Pants: Depth Diggers with Dex, Vit, X Res, These are super cheap and you get a nice 20/20 gf/mf bump.
• Belt: Dex, Vit, All Res and or X Res, Pickup radius. Innas is nice too.
• Boots: Nat's boots w/ all res, X res,
• Weapons: Shenlong's fist weaps are great. If you can grab ones with sockets you are set (only one of mine has a socket so far). The only life on hit stat I have comes from the MH SHenlongs and with just 958 LoH my monk is unkillable.

I refined my gear a few times and would probably do it more if the bot wasn't performing so well. I was thinking on getting Inna's 4 piece but why bother shifting gear and wasting gold when hes pulling in 600gph. Hope this helps ya some.

I was looking at the 2nd post on the Monk cannon guide and using that as a rough guideline. I made mistakes and had good experience in gearing my barb but I never played with Monk so need to minimize the mistakes.

Any reason why you went with the Inna's helm instead of the Andariels? I was looking to stack poison resist cause it seems like the most favorable. Physical and fire is sought after by other classes. Cold is good but cold isn't found on every gear. Poison seems to be found on everything and an Andarials will give me Crit chance, Attack Speed, poison resist, and a socket. But you take more fire dmg. lol


Shoulder - good call. However i just looked up shoulders and man, ANYTHING with pick up radius has skyrocketed in price. WTF. 40 mil for shoulders with 100+ Dex/Vit, All res, poison and pickup

Gloves - Ill check out tasker and theo. never heard of them. I was just going to get a rare but the more options the better.
Chest - How come innas? I found a rare with 80 Dex/120 Vit/40 X resist/55-65AR and 3 sockets for around 2-3 mil. Would the innas be better than that? I'm not familiar with the set bonuses.

i'll def check out the rings as well. Pick up would be nice on the belt too.

Boots: I'll check nat's boots. Currently looking at ice climbers cause those stats are amazing but realized that it has no movement speed! boots are one of the most expensive pieces ever.

Are you dual wielding with the Shenlong's fist weapons?


Do you mind if I ask you what your stats are? DPS, Life on Hit (or whatever else mitigation), HP, AR, etc.

Thanks

 

[Job2k9]

My sweeping wind is a one time cast as it has the extended duration. I prefer attack speed on a mempo rather than crit. With the monk cannon build you need to be able to go from mob to mob quickly. The more attack speed the more life you get. I feel like attack speed is the most important stat.

For sure. I'm really tempted to go back to a skorn build like before but I'm not sure the investment would be worth it at this point. I found once I switched over to DW my dph is nearly zero. If I wanted to poke at the higher monster powers I'd def go for it tho.

Is the xp/gph at higher MP worth the effort?

 

[kettlecorn]

interesting.. There are two different builds. Shit I wish i played with monk a little bit cause I dont know much about it. Would love to hear back from you guys esp Job2k9 regarding your stats. Honestly I'm not so fond of Life on kill but it's cheaper especially with that skorn. That skorn gives me 300 Dex with close to 300 crit dmg% and 3000 life on kill. If I'm lucky high 1200 or 1300 DPS skorn. For about.. 1mil?

I'm not sure how much additional it would cost me if I went with dual wield fist weapons, cause LOH costs a ton. But with either build it looks like attack speed is needed so why the Innas' helm instead of the Andariels?

For sure. I'm really tempted to go back to a skorn build like before but I'm not sure the investment would be worth it at this point. I found once I switched over to DW my dph is nearly zero. If I wanted to poke at the higher monster powers I'd def go for it tho.

Is the xp/gph at higher MP worth the effort?

I think regarding MP levels, it's not worth it to go past where you can tell a difference in run times. Best way would be to time it but if you're doing Mp0 and mp2 at roughly the same speed, AKA you're one shotting everything then MP2 would obviously be the baseline you need to be running at. But if there's strain, death or additional noticeable time, then the additional 20% in exp and MF is not worth it. At least IMO

 

[maldymann]

I was looking at the 2nd post on the Monk cannon guide and using that as a rough guideline. I made mistakes and had good experience in gearing my barb but I never played with Monk so need to minimize the mistakes.

Any reason why you went with the Inna's helm instead of the Andariels? I was looking to stack poison resist cause it seems like the most favorable. Physical and fire is sought after by other classes. Cold is good but cold isn't found on every gear. Poison seems to be found on everything and an Andarials will give me Crit chance, Attack Speed, poison resist, and a socket. But you take more fire dmg. lol

Andariels is a great helm. Make sure you get it with a sock and low fire damage (Damage to you)


Shoulder - good call. However i just looked up shoulders and man, ANYTHING with pick up radius has skyrocketed in price. WTF. 40 mil for shoulders with 100+ Dex/Vit, All res, poison and pickup

I would get pickup radius on boots or bracers. Focus on dex on your shoulders. You only neeed about 30k hp and about 300 all res if you have 90k+ DPS.

Gloves - Ill check out tasker and theo. never heard of them. I was just going to get a rare but the more options the better.

I have a rare with 90 vit, 90 total res, crit, and attack speed. Attack speed needs to be on almost everything


Chest - How come innas? I found a rare with 80 Dex/120 Vit/40 X resist/55-65AR and 3 sockets for around 2-3 mil. Would the innas be better than that? I'm not familiar with the set bonuses.

Inna's is good but not needed for a chest. You need at least the belt and pants. The 2 set is needed

i'll def check out the rings as well. Pick up would be nice on the belt too.

Boots: I'll check nat's boots. Currently looking at ice climbers cause those stats are amazing but realized that it has no movement speed! boots are one of the most expensive pieces ever.

You get 12& MS on ur pants and can get the move speed on Lacuni's also. There is your 24%. Get ice climbers with high dex (maybe even pickup radius if cheap enough) Remember that 24% is cap (also gain 12% from your passive for the 36% MS)

Are you dual wielding with the Shenlong's fist weapons?

go with a dex skorn with life on KILL,


Do you mind if I ask you what your stats are? DPS, Life on Hit (or whatever else mitigation), HP, AR, etc.

DPS = 119k, Like on KILL = 3900, HP = 33k, AR = 500, Crit chance/damage = 25%/380

I run act 3 inferno MP0 w/ no deaths, I can do MP 1 with 1-2 dea

Thanks

Any more questions

 

[maldymann]

interesting.. There are two different builds. Shit I wish i played with monk a little bit cause I dont know much about it. Would love to hear back from you guys esp Job2k9 regarding your stats. Honestly I'm not so fond of Life on kill but it's cheaper especially with that skorn. That skorn gives me 300 Dex with close to 300 crit dmg% and 3000 life on kill. If I'm lucky high 1200 or 1300 DPS skorn. For about.. 1mil?

1M for that weapon would be very good

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