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[Legal] Honorbuddy to be not allowed for sale in Germany, if Blizzard pays ...

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frosticus said:
as mentioned before. this will set precedent for trials to follow. whoever wins will be able to point and say 'see, we already won this fight once'.
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Does curts in Germany care about precedens? Its not USA, you know...
 
yarmatey said:
I find it highly unlikely that Blizzard will use over half a million euros to stop the sale of ONE bot in just ONE country, especially considering Germany makes up such a small fraction of overall players world wide. The only way they'd do this is if they were absolutely certain they were going to win and they'd get it back.
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Don't underestimate blizzard.

''Nuff Sayd''.
 
Cases in the USA are won by whoever can pay lawyers to either set or find precedents. Germany tend to evaluate each on a case by case basis and use precedent only to determine an appropriate sentence, not to determine guilt or innocence. Evidence is far more important in German courts. Legal nitpicking and public opinion much less so. You won't find high-profile showbiz trials in Germany. As with all things, the Germans are a model of efficiency.
 
I'm don't german but fuck off this fucking law, i'm customer i buy what i want, some heroin if needed (i don't take this drug, and no one should !) ... really need to see SWAT comming in my house "STOP USE YOUR BOT" :D
 
So far bossland has won nothing and this is not good in itself

Sounds like the courts are yet to decide who will win

But reading over corporate laws and copyright laws and computer laws botting is not good for wow as user information is stolen by password stealers and gold sellers use password stealers and other wow players accounts in junction with bots to make in game gold to sell for real money

Blizzard would be using a lot of different laws in order to win this case and bring it to a win

I myself do not bot and I find game play good with out it I do hard-core raiding and some PvP I was always taught not to be lazy in life what is sad is that there are people here making a living off botting and when the bot does truly die they will be screwed big time

I do bet that blizzard will win this for sure and take out bots for good even into project titan when they win against Bossland they are going for the next big company and that will be short lived as it has been proven in two country's USA and Germany my understanding is the other one is located in China

Law is rather interesting when you start to read about it in general or study it for a career or experience it as such and I can't really see Bossland winning at all reason is this what gives a person the right to make money off someone's work this is one reason why Bossland will not win plus he is supporting hacking of computers even though that may not be his intent but it is happening because of his bot he makes... No court will support this nor should it and none has in the past from my readings

What I do find really sad is Bossland will end up broke over a program and I bet he was given a chance to stop the develop of it by blizzard

Also users like ourselves are protected as well because of privacy reasons this is why blizzard does not do mass banning I do think how ever they are able to scan the memory just like a virus scanner does to see if something is attached to it and this is not against the laws at all in any country

Plus when your talking about server and client software the server talks back to your software as it has been given permission already also I do think blizzard has hidden the code well in the client software where it can not be read unless you do know what your looking for there was a bot virus network some years ago where it took 8 antivirus guys to figure out 50 ip addresses in the code and that took 3 years to get all 50 it was encrypted right out though the code of the .exe many top programs use this and it is not very large at all very complex and very effective way of protecting a code you do not want people to find out information or apart of some code that helps you hide something in your code it was done by F-Prot
 
well, it's more of a choice of breaking ToS than breaking the law... blizzard has the right to use methods to ban us and we have the right to break a ToS of the game.

although, it's 50/50 since both have good lawyers.
 
Hat?r said:
So far bossland has won nothing and this is not good in itself

Sounds like the courts are yet to decide who will win

But reading over corporate laws and copyright laws and computer laws botting is not good for wow as user information is stolen by password stealers and gold sellers use password stealers and other wow players accounts in junction with bots to make in game gold to sell for real money

Blizzard would be using a lot of different laws in order to win this case and bring it to a win

I myself do not bot and I find game play good with out it I do hard-core raiding and some PvP I was always taught not to be lazy in life what is sad is that there are people here making a living off botting and when the bot does truly die they will be screwed big time

I do bet that blizzard will win this for sure and take out bots for good even into project titan when they win against Bossland they are going for the next big company and that will be short lived as it has been proven in two country's USA and Germany my understanding is the other one is located in China

Law is rather interesting when you start to read about it in general or study it for a career or experience it as such and I can't really see Bossland winning at all reason is this what gives a person the right to make money off someone's work this is one reason why Bossland will not win plus he is supporting hacking of computers even though that may not be his intent but it is happening because of his bot he makes... No court will support this nor should it and none has in the past from my readings

What I do find really sad is Bossland will end up broke over a program and I bet he was given a chance to stop the develop of it by blizzard

Also users like ourselves are protected as well because of privacy reasons this is why blizzard does not do mass banning I do think how ever they are able to scan the memory just like a virus scanner does to see if something is attached to it and this is not against the laws at all in any country

Plus when your talking about server and client software the server talks back to your software as it has been given permission already also I do think blizzard has hidden the code well in the client software where it can not be read unless you do know what your looking for there was a bot virus network some years ago where it took 8 antivirus guys to figure out 50 ip addresses in the code and that took 3 years to get all 50 it was encrypted right out though the code of the .exe many top programs use this and it is not very large at all very complex and very effective way of protecting a code you do not want people to find out information or apart of some code that helps you hide something in your code it was done by F-Prot
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yes he won honorbuddy stays alive its only not for germany if blizzard pay the 650k honorbuddy wil be forbiden in germany but not the whole world so ye We won its not that it goes offline for the whole world ONLY germany
 
Hat?r said:
So far bossland has won nothing and this is not good in itself

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So far, no-one has won anything. Blizzard has not been able to close us and we have not been able to get their action dismissed. Both sides are appealing these decisions.
 
CodenameG said:
Germany over covers Germany, so they can say, "dont sell it to people in Germany" but they dont care about people from else where.
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Nope. The decision states that bossland is forbidden so sell a bot in germany but the court also ruled that in the whole EU bossland is no longer allowed to advertise HB as a wow bot.
 
artimithe said:
Nope. The decision states that bossland is forbidden so sell a bot in germany but the court also ruled that in the whole EU bossland is no longer allowed to advertise HB as a wow bot.
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thats fine by me they just could advertise it with another tool program for wow without bot name in it:)
 
protect yourself first and foremost.
limit your liability, protect any assets (divest) and, as you may be stopped from selling the bot, "sell" the company to an offshore buyer that operates from an even murkier country.
(companies/banks/countries)
thoughts with you.. tough decisions to weigh up.
 
whats up here. I thought its not allowd to sell HB to german customers, but since today its not possible to login to HB anymore :/
Invalid product key, Authentication failed !!!!!!!!!!
 
Well this makes no sense. They could just implement the getforegroundwindow api to detect people playing while not having wow as active/foreground window which is impossible without bot, that would detect 90% of all botters, and will not require too see personal stuff like files, processes running and such.
 
Ich finde es mal etwas "bl?de",das wir deutschen wieder die "dummen" sind.

Ist doch eigentlich das gleiche,ob ich jetzt von Amerika aus Botte oder von Deutschland aus,alles das selbe! Aber ich denke,Boss l?sst sich da was einfallen :)
 
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