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Honorbuddy Bans Statement
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fresyes559
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yeah allowing non-members to read HB forum was a not-so-genius idea.
+1 point for admitting what most of us already knew.. HB is detected-able. it is all good. peace yo
+1 point for admitting what most of us already knew.. HB is detected-able. it is all good. peace yo
Digit
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lol you don't think Blizzard could invest the small amount of time and money that it takes to buy a copy of honorbuddy and create a forum account?
That's 200k users. How many people registered on HB have multiple accounts? A ton. Some have 2, some have 5, some have 10 and some have a shitload more then that. If they ban a majority of HB users they just banned at least 300k to 500k accounts and it wouldn't surprise me if it was close to 1 million or more by the time it's over with.
I'd would love to be in Activision's boardroom when the 2Q numbers come out and the Blizzard CEO has to explain why they lost 4-5 million subs since January and hundreds of millions of dollars in sub fees. Any ban would be worth it to see Michael Morhaime shit a pink twinkie from fear after giving those numbers.
Look around, I'm not digging it up. I've seen it in several places. When I say several I mean like half a dozen or better. A link to yahoo saying 100k is above. Blizzaard said 100k+ early yesterday and they're still currently banning.
One of the other bot forums has 200k and I've seen as high as 300k. All very believable. These are accounts not necessarily players but it's a lot. I'd cite sites but theyll probably get censored anyhow. Your part of the underground communjty I can only assume you know where to look.
In a week when it all settles I'm sure blizz will brag about the tally and leave out the part about the "suspension" and it's temporary nature so they have a chance to get us all back and inflate numbers once again.
Notice this was timed right after they just released sub numbers? Now they won't have to again for many moons.
fresyes559
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Lol duh on that. But why make it any easier for Bliz.
k4ne
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Hey guys, sad i got banned too (6 months, at least this time i lost nothing) but i was almost not playing anymore, just grinding gold since i cleaned the mythic content (2 months to clear content then nothing to do >_<) Thanks Honorbuddy, wouldn't have played this game without the bot ^^
Got a question: with Heroes of the Storm you can get a mount for reaching level 100 on WoW, do you think it will work with banned accounts ?
Got a question: with Heroes of the Storm you can get a mount for reaching level 100 on WoW, do you think it will work with banned accounts ?
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Try to assess the damage from a different perspective. Each statics in Europe lost between 2 and 3+ players. It PvE. How many losses in PvP? And then you have to understand that it is at least 15% of users.
Users accustomed to using НB will not want to go back and pay for a new account because without HB makes no sense to play WoW
Users accustomed to using НB will not want to go back and pay for a new account because without HB makes no sense to play WoW
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Appealed and asks for personal Informations after my german right called "Recht auf Selbstauskunft" and in connection that scanning my ram and sending personal informations is illegal here.
They just closed my ticket without an answer.. Such assholes. ..
My guildmates laught after they heard the story but they will help me to get my class ready for raiding in my raid again. So I think I need to learn my class now
They just closed my ticket without an answer.. Such assholes. ..
My guildmates laught after they heard the story but they will help me to get my class ready for raiding in my raid again. So I think I need to learn my class now
Dear developers and writers of routines and plugins (and what have you),
I want to thank you all for all your hard work. I know it has been said plenty of times before, but you deserve all the praise.You have managed to create something that made a game with sometimes complex, or at other times downright boring mechanics enjoyable for a lot of people who wouldn't have enjoyed that game in the same way otherwise. I'll never forget just how nice and relaxing it is to start up WoW and HB and just watch the game being played for you, or to not have to pay attention to your rotation and be able to fully focus on positioning in raids. You made aspects of the game available to those who have a normal life (or at least something approaching that), for which you have my deepest gratitude.
Myself, I'm a very casual gamer, I don't need to play games on hard difficulty to enjoy them, I usually play them on the easiest setting just to dominate.
That's what I love about HB, it allows me to play some aspects of the game as though I had put in days of practising and perfecting my combat routine. On my own, I could never heal a LFR group, maybe a HC dungeon if I practised a lot, but I would probably need raid gear for that or run out of mana, but with HB and a solid CR I managed to always be in the top 3 with about 5-10% overhealing done (the lack of overhealing being the reason I wasn't number 1). I might be able to struggle some average DPS in LFR, but not whilst keeping an eye on where not to stand during encounters.
That's what HB did for me, it made me able to heal a group while making sure I wasn't standing in the fire. I do sincerely believe that I contributed to a positive game experience for all of tanks and DPSers in the raid, and probably for most healers too (if they were not too competitive), and I believe fun to be most important in any game.
True, Blizzard is in their rights to ban us. True, we all knew we were breaking their rules. However, without looking at PvP, where the matter lies slightly different, I do not think that any form of botting, as provided by HB, did any harm to the fairness and levelness of the gaming community as a whole. I have made an appeal for one of my accounts which has been denied with the usual mention of "use of 3rd party programs" and that the information cannot be disclosed, "as it is internal information."
What got me wondering, though, is that I got the email (and presumably the ban) more than 24 hours after I logged in to the account while having HB active. I know that I have logged in to the account after that moment (though I didn't log in to a character as I decided I didn't feel like playing after all), but without HB running at the time.
I am mostly disappointed about the ban on my main account. I did use it on my second account for gathering purposes and the like, but on my main only as a combat routine in PvE, and try as I might, I can see no downside to doing that. But more than feeling disappointed, I'm wondering if I will return to the game, and, in this, I'm torn. I love WoW, the world, its characters, its stories, and I was really looking forward to playing my way through the Tanaan Jungle, but I'm not sure if I would be willing to keep playing the game without a bot. For me, that would mean that the max level of content that I could play that would make me feel good would be DPSing and, just maybe, tanking in HC dungeons, or maybe healing or tanking in non HC dungeons. As much as I enjoyed being part of a raid group, albeit LFR, and although I might get my DPS high enough not to get complaints about that, keeping track of the mechanics of such a fight and my combat routine at the same time is just too much for me. This would also mean that I would have to miss out on the epic story quests. As nice as owning a legendary ring is, it pales in comparison to the story behind it. Of course I'll watch it all on YouTube, but that is far from the same as actually being part of the story and play it.
Yes, I'm addicted to WoW. Yes, my first thought was: "I'll just get a new account and start over". But I don't want to start over, not without my old characters. I've played two of them for over 5 years, there is no replacing that. But more than that, I don't want to play through Dreanor again. The idea of a garrison is great, but it felt like grinding having to run through it every day. With all those peons just lifting weights, you would imagine that they could pick everything up for us, but they don't so they make some of us feel forced to use a bot for it.
And as far as "We’re committed to providing an equal and fair playing field for everyone in World of Warcraft" goes, there is no such thing as an equal and fair playing field for everyone. Some of us will have more time to invest into this game then others. Some might just be better at playing it, understanding the deep mechanics of a certain class or spec. To my knowledge and to my experience as a user of HB, it does not make us "the best players in the game". Being an all-round bot, it is not programmed to look ahead. a CR does not think like a person does and often makes decisions that are good, but not optimal. This can be greatly improved by taking away some of what the CR does and taking back that control, but that doesn't change the fact that HB operates within the same spectrum as real players, though well above average (Once again, this might be different for PvP, but I have not done a lot of that). If "equal and fair" means that it does not matter if you are a noob or a top class raider, if you can spend only one hour a day or 16 hours a day, because, as long as you do not use a bot, all is "equal and fair", they might want to have a second look at that.
If botting meant that you would outperform even those top raiders with ease (personally I did not get beyond normal mode raiding, even when botting), *then* I could understand this argument. But, things being as they are, they have to come up with something better than "equal and fair"
As a final note before I conclude this post, which is arguably the longest post I have ever placed on the internet, I would like to say that, reading through the first halve of the comments on this post, I noticed that I have not spent enough time on these forums. The sense of community I find here is heart warming. If I had had more time (or maybe less of a social life outside) I would have loved to get to know as many of you as I could. For now, though, with the six month ban, there is, of course more time, but fewer reasons for me to check up on these forums. I do want you all to know, however, that, although I don't know any of you, you do feel like family. Distant family, maybe, but family non the less.
I wish you all the best of luck with your appeals and I hope most of you will get their ban undone.
All the best,
Wearloga
I want to thank you all for all your hard work. I know it has been said plenty of times before, but you deserve all the praise.You have managed to create something that made a game with sometimes complex, or at other times downright boring mechanics enjoyable for a lot of people who wouldn't have enjoyed that game in the same way otherwise. I'll never forget just how nice and relaxing it is to start up WoW and HB and just watch the game being played for you, or to not have to pay attention to your rotation and be able to fully focus on positioning in raids. You made aspects of the game available to those who have a normal life (or at least something approaching that), for which you have my deepest gratitude.
Myself, I'm a very casual gamer, I don't need to play games on hard difficulty to enjoy them, I usually play them on the easiest setting just to dominate.
That's what I love about HB, it allows me to play some aspects of the game as though I had put in days of practising and perfecting my combat routine. On my own, I could never heal a LFR group, maybe a HC dungeon if I practised a lot, but I would probably need raid gear for that or run out of mana, but with HB and a solid CR I managed to always be in the top 3 with about 5-10% overhealing done (the lack of overhealing being the reason I wasn't number 1). I might be able to struggle some average DPS in LFR, but not whilst keeping an eye on where not to stand during encounters.
That's what HB did for me, it made me able to heal a group while making sure I wasn't standing in the fire. I do sincerely believe that I contributed to a positive game experience for all of tanks and DPSers in the raid, and probably for most healers too (if they were not too competitive), and I believe fun to be most important in any game.
True, Blizzard is in their rights to ban us. True, we all knew we were breaking their rules. However, without looking at PvP, where the matter lies slightly different, I do not think that any form of botting, as provided by HB, did any harm to the fairness and levelness of the gaming community as a whole. I have made an appeal for one of my accounts which has been denied with the usual mention of "use of 3rd party programs" and that the information cannot be disclosed, "as it is internal information."
What got me wondering, though, is that I got the email (and presumably the ban) more than 24 hours after I logged in to the account while having HB active. I know that I have logged in to the account after that moment (though I didn't log in to a character as I decided I didn't feel like playing after all), but without HB running at the time.
I am mostly disappointed about the ban on my main account. I did use it on my second account for gathering purposes and the like, but on my main only as a combat routine in PvE, and try as I might, I can see no downside to doing that. But more than feeling disappointed, I'm wondering if I will return to the game, and, in this, I'm torn. I love WoW, the world, its characters, its stories, and I was really looking forward to playing my way through the Tanaan Jungle, but I'm not sure if I would be willing to keep playing the game without a bot. For me, that would mean that the max level of content that I could play that would make me feel good would be DPSing and, just maybe, tanking in HC dungeons, or maybe healing or tanking in non HC dungeons. As much as I enjoyed being part of a raid group, albeit LFR, and although I might get my DPS high enough not to get complaints about that, keeping track of the mechanics of such a fight and my combat routine at the same time is just too much for me. This would also mean that I would have to miss out on the epic story quests. As nice as owning a legendary ring is, it pales in comparison to the story behind it. Of course I'll watch it all on YouTube, but that is far from the same as actually being part of the story and play it.
Yes, I'm addicted to WoW. Yes, my first thought was: "I'll just get a new account and start over". But I don't want to start over, not without my old characters. I've played two of them for over 5 years, there is no replacing that. But more than that, I don't want to play through Dreanor again. The idea of a garrison is great, but it felt like grinding having to run through it every day. With all those peons just lifting weights, you would imagine that they could pick everything up for us, but they don't so they make some of us feel forced to use a bot for it.
And as far as "We’re committed to providing an equal and fair playing field for everyone in World of Warcraft" goes, there is no such thing as an equal and fair playing field for everyone. Some of us will have more time to invest into this game then others. Some might just be better at playing it, understanding the deep mechanics of a certain class or spec. To my knowledge and to my experience as a user of HB, it does not make us "the best players in the game". Being an all-round bot, it is not programmed to look ahead. a CR does not think like a person does and often makes decisions that are good, but not optimal. This can be greatly improved by taking away some of what the CR does and taking back that control, but that doesn't change the fact that HB operates within the same spectrum as real players, though well above average (Once again, this might be different for PvP, but I have not done a lot of that). If "equal and fair" means that it does not matter if you are a noob or a top class raider, if you can spend only one hour a day or 16 hours a day, because, as long as you do not use a bot, all is "equal and fair", they might want to have a second look at that.
If botting meant that you would outperform even those top raiders with ease (personally I did not get beyond normal mode raiding, even when botting), *then* I could understand this argument. But, things being as they are, they have to come up with something better than "equal and fair"
As a final note before I conclude this post, which is arguably the longest post I have ever placed on the internet, I would like to say that, reading through the first halve of the comments on this post, I noticed that I have not spent enough time on these forums. The sense of community I find here is heart warming. If I had had more time (or maybe less of a social life outside) I would have loved to get to know as many of you as I could. For now, though, with the six month ban, there is, of course more time, but fewer reasons for me to check up on these forums. I do want you all to know, however, that, although I don't know any of you, you do feel like family. Distant family, maybe, but family non the less.
I wish you all the best of luck with your appeals and I hope most of you will get their ban undone.
All the best,
Wearloga
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Got a question: with Heroes of the Storm you can get a mount for reaching level 100 on WoW, do you think it will work with banned accounts ?
Dont see why not. I added a trial account to my battle.net account (2 banned accounts) and the toon has all of my mounts, pets and titles available to it.
lordkysers
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Soo seen on FB a lot of people are appealing and getting their accounts back. I will write a appeal soon but wanted a lil help with what to say in the appeal please help.
Hordebegone
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Blizzard previously won a lawsuit against a World of Warcraft bot company for $7 million.
canadianspirit
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Have you guys read about the banns on their Blizard forums. The people are rude and put down botters. I hate the people on WOW now. They think their shit doesnt stink. They think they are better then us botters. Go read their posts its pretty sickening to read it. My 2 accounts got banned for 6 months. I used toekns for both for up to March of next year. So I will have time when I get back on. Blizaard is pretty controlling about their rules. And the people putting botters down have no life but to just play LOL.
canadianspirit
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They are also posting our messages on Blizard forums so watch out. They are disgusting. I might not go back I dont want to play with players like them.
Getting banned is part of the game if you are botting for fun. To me botting is the most fun thing in wow, if I get banned, I'll just make another account. To the developers, thanks for making honorbuddy so great. Only one banwave over 5 years is still damn impressive.
I think they planned the gold for wow time with this ban wave to catch more of us. Its the only reason I resubscribed to wow. Im not willing to pay 15 bucks a month, but load honorbuddy for a couple nights a week and get free wow? hells ya! This is what brought me back, and I got the suspension report 4 days after I resubbed.
It was a trap fellas
It was a trap fellas
cartoonchikn
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^^this^^
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