HB ARCHIVES: Singular--DO NOT DELETE

[slator]

Brewmaster Monk
-remove 'Guard' settings, spell no longer exists
-remove 'Elusive Brew' settings, spell no longer exists. Or rename/repurpose for new spell 'Ironskin Brew'
-add setting for when to use Purifying Brew (low/medium/high stagger)
-Leg Sweep is being used on ranged pull, before monk is in melee range to even land the spell, so it looks very botty. It would also be nice to have some control over when this is used ie. only during pvp, or when 4+ mobs are in range

Aside from all that, it's working pretty well! Thanks!

Figured I'd try and bump this since there's a dev actually paying attention now. I've seen others reporting issues similar to my leg sweep issue so maybe its a bigger issue than just monk.

And I know a few others have mentioned it as well, but the FPS while using singular+framelock is absolutely terrible. Cuts my FPS by 60% or more.

 

[elpargo]

Enha Shaman won¡t use Feral Lunge, and doesn't use Lava Lash as often as it should, auto-attacks waiting for other spells to come off cooldown instead of using Lava Lash... also, not as important, low lvl enhancement just doesnt work untill it gets Boulderfist (doesn't use rockbiter).
And noticed as Resto never uses chain heal.

 

[patrik-x]

Elemental shaman never uses Totem Mastery?. It should be the first thing to cast dps wise.
Can you pls implement this
Ty

 

[EchoTiger]

Warrior never uses "battle cry" (one of its new main "burst" abilities). Its up every minute and makes you crit 100% for 5 seconds at a time. It would be beneficial if we could introduce this into the rotation? Also can we please possibly add a selection to "Pull mob with heroic throw" ? Alot of the time charging bugs out the warrior and he ends up charging to his death. (i.e. dungeons, where he charges regularly off the SBG bridge before bonemaw due to the flying bats, or slag mines where he sometimes charges to his death into lava before the last boss) .

Would appreciate it if these changes could be introduced ! <3

I've tested this in both fury, and prot. Never arms, so if its working for arms exclusively... I wouldn't know.

As for fury you also never use "Avatar" which is a main burst ability as well. Would be nice to see it used as well, although fury isn't as concerning to me personally... im sure some people who use fury would appreciate it .

I've set Battle Cry to be used prior to casting Rampage.
So with the current logic it will go:

When Rampage is castable ->
Try Cast Dragon Roar,
Try Cast Battle Cry,
Cast Rampage​

For the Heroic throw, I've added a setting to pull with Heroic Throw and a setting to pull with Storm Bolt. These new settings will be inside of a "Pull" category.
To disable charge, there's already a setting there under "General" - I've moved it into its own "Pull - Gap Closer" category since it's not just used for pulling.


For the Avatar talent, I've added two new settings to cast it on cooldown for either AoE or Single Target.
By default, it will use it on cooldown while in AoE. However, it will not use it on cooldown for Single Target.

 

[rastablondy]

My shaman heal use only 2 spell is it normal bug or i can fix it?

 

[Ikyata]

Is there a plan to update singular to reflect legion? I know there is a lot of work to be done overall, but this is a painfully obvious issue. So many classes are completely ignoring core skills

 

[speshulk926]

Is there a plan to update singular to reflect legion? I know there is a lot of work to be done overall, but this is a painfully obvious issue. So many classes are completely ignoring core skills

Yes and you could help by specifying what it is missing with a log file or some indication of a class/spec anything!

 

[Uraku]

Some core issues with Priest routine:

Shadow:
Not using Void bolt as top priority in voidform

Disc:
Not applying atonement to anyone in the raid, just spamming DPS abilities

Holy:
Spamming Flash Heal and going oom (even after disabling Flash Heal in the configs)

 

[Ikyata]

Yes and you could help by specifying what it is missing with a log file or some indication of a class/spec anything!

I did so earlier in the thread. I don't think these issues are unknown though- it just looks like there hasn't been any substantial update for legion. The interface is outdated (I think the bot config was already outdated before pre patch).

My biggest problems are as follows:

1. Tons of new abilities are not being used
2. Many talent abilities are not being used
3. Casters spend a lot of time sitting and waiting for spell cooldowns instead of casting something else
4. Priests, as Uraku mentioned, are not functioning properly at all. I notice that my bot says it is casting Void Bolt, but is not. Disc is not casting heals on other players in combat.
5. The interface is old and doesn't seem to even have an effect on the spells that are still in the game that you change the options for. My monk spams effuse instead of just killing the mob

 

[Dmpk]

I did so earlier in the thread. I don't think these issues are unknown though- it just looks like there hasn't been any substantial update for legion. The interface is outdated (I think the bot config was already outdated before pre patch).

My biggest problems are as follows:

1. Tons of new abilities are not being used
2. Many talent abilities are not being used
3. Casters spend a lot of time sitting and waiting for spell cooldowns instead of casting something else
4. Priests, as Uraku mentioned, are not functioning properly at all. I notice that my bot says it is casting Void Bolt, but is not. Disc is not casting heals on other players in combat.
5. The interface is old and doesn't seem to even have an effect on the spells that are still in the game that you change the options for. My monk spams effuse instead of just killing the mob

Legion's not out yet. How can you say it seems no one is working on something that doesn't even exist yet. The dev's are doing their best to update things, and Echo *the guy in charge of singular* has put a monumental effort forward in the last week or so into singular, but he is ALSO in charge of the questing bot... and if you've used it since the 7.0 patch drop... you'd understand why he's got his hands full. There are a large amount of profiles and bot bases and talents etc etc. This is a gigantic do it all bot, it isn't going to get fixed over-night. I haven't been here for the last few patch releases, but im going to take a guess that during most of the patch releases where they changed abilities and game mechanics like this, that the bot developers needed time then too.

And don't come back @ me with "oh the other bots work" ... because if you feel like any of these other bots compare to this bot... your mistaken .

 

[patata]

My monk spams effuse instead of just killing the mob

Go Class Config, Go Monk Specific, u will see Self-heal lower that from 85 to 60 job done

I think that u should change that to 60% default Echo because he is right they tend to heal them self alot

 

[Azhemoth]

Echo *the guy in charge of singular* has put a monumental effort forward in the last week or so into singular, but he is ALSO in charge of the questing bot... and if you've used it since the 7.0 patch drop... you'd understand why he's got his hands full.

Adding to this^

He also works on Azyul which is the largest pack on the forum with nearly 2mil "clicks" and he also does work on the Mesh, which Mesh is the virtual world the bot reads to navigate around the game.

All the Demon Hunter starting zone was Meshed by him while at the same time he made all the combat routine logic and starting zone questing profile.
100% of the bot's DH support is all because of Echo. Back in the day, this was a 3 person job.


Right now if you look at the questing pack, like 50% of the quests are broke due to an issue on Blizzard's end, so 24/7 he is addressing reported issues and fixing quests around the clock ontop of all this.

His ability to maintain all this stuff is unreal to me especially when you monitor the SVNs and see 30+ commits to the questing pack in under an hour, along with commits to Singular and Azyul being made at the same time.

Not to mention the time he puts time into actual forum support - helping users.
The previous staff who managed Singular and Questing profiles relied on moderators like Chinajade or Tony to do that.


He doesn't work on Fridays and Saturdays because he has family come over.
So he should be back tomorrow to fix all these reported issues.

 

[Ikyata]

Legion's not out yet. How can you say it seems no one is working on something that doesn't even exist yet. The dev's are doing their best to update things, and Echo *the guy in charge of singular* has put a monumental effort forward in the last week or so into singular, but he is ALSO in charge of the questing bot... and if you've used it since the 7.0 patch drop... you'd understand why he's got his hands full. There are a large amount of profiles and bot bases and talents etc etc. This is a gigantic do it all bot, it isn't going to get fixed over-night. I haven't been here for the last few patch releases, but im going to take a guess that during most of the patch releases where they changed abilities and game mechanics like this, that the bot developers needed time then too.

And don't come back @ me with "oh the other bots work" ... because if you feel like any of these other bots compare to this bot... your mistaken .

I understand that they have a lot of work and I don't see the place where I assume they arent' working on it. I am just stating that it seems like there has not been an update for legion and that is frustrating. Am I not right? If all they need is more time, I am fine with that and completely understand. My worry was that singular was being left in the dust

 

[Dmpk]

I understand that they have a lot of work and I don't see the place where I assume they arent' working on it. I am just stating that it seems like there has not been an update for legion and that is frustrating. Am I not right? If all they need is more time, I am fine with that and completely understand. My worry was that singular was being left in the dust

your not right.. because again... legion does NOT exist yet... lol.

Lets go through a hypothetical... They get a beta key and are able to use that to code a "legion" release (they pretty much already did this fyi), and state that its a legion release... then the 30th comes by and WoW breaks / changes things differently than HB thinks.... now all of a sudden you have a crap load of hours wasted because you still have to edit everything you did to fit what is going on in the (future) current version of the game.

You just do not know what will be in the patch that might affect HB, and you cannot expect a pre-release to something they don't yet have in their hands. Having said that though... they are still working on legion pre-patch material and there are all sorts of developers working on legion content pre-legion release... so your wish is being granted, there is just nothing out yet because they all know they have til the 30th to complete this task... They also need to wait for honorbuddy to update after the patch release which will open up all sorts of new HB data that developers will need to implement. Not saying this is easy / hard, I really don't know (hard is my guess though)... Just saying this all needs to be done, and in order. Part of that order is August 30th, the actual release date of the hard patch.

 

[Azhemoth]

I understand that they have a lot of work and I don't see the place where I assume they arent' working on it. I am just stating that it seems like there has not been an update for legion and that is frustrating. Am I not right? If all they need is more time, I am fine with that and completely understand. My worry was that singular was being left in the dust

I don't understand what you're getting at?

"there has not been an update for legion"​

All 36 class specializations were updated on Singular the day before the prePatch was released.
The bot fully supports all current existing Legion content.

So what do you mean that it doesn't?

 

[EchoTiger]

Brewmaster Monk
-remove 'Guard' settings, spell no longer exists
-remove 'Elusive Brew' settings, spell no longer exists. Or rename/repurpose for new spell 'Ironskin Brew'
-add setting for when to use Purifying Brew (low/medium/high stagger)
-Leg Sweep is being used on ranged pull, before monk is in melee range to even land the spell, so it looks very botty. It would also be nice to have some control over when this is used ie. only during pvp, or when 4+ mobs are in range

Aside from all that, it's working pretty well! Thanks!

Working on these tonight, will edit this post when a commit has been made to address your listed issues.
Thanks for the report!

Edit;
Removed Guard settings,
Removed Elusive Brew settings,
Added Ironskin remaining charge count setting,
Added stagger setting for Purifying Brew, and Leg Sweep should now be cast if within melee range.

All this should be in the next Honorbuddy update.​

 

[Ikyata]

I don't understand what you're getting at?

"there has not been an update for legion"​

All 36 class specializations were updated on Singular the day before the prePatch was released.
The bot fully supports all current existing Legion content.

So what do you mean that it doesn't?

Prot Warrior: Seems ok. Could use IP more (much more)

Priest: Shadow does not use void bolt. Disc does not apply attonement

Fire Mage: No use of Cinderstorm and often sits waiting on fire blast CD instead of casting.

Destro lock: no use of final tier talent, its AoE stun talent, or havoc. I also don't think it AoEs but I could just be missing that

Balance/Resto Druid: Balance doesn't seem to AoE, but other than that I think its ok. Resto seems to be good.

Disc/Shadow Priest: Does not apply atonement or use void belt. Makes both specs pretty ineffective

Prot Pally: Steed cancels early a lot. Would be nice if it used it in combat if you have the 20% damage reduc talent and are dying with SoR on CD, but that's just a suggestion

Enhance sham: no capacitator totem, otherwise good

Frost DK: Seems good!

Rogue: I don't think it uses FoK

Mistweaver: despite the options, does not fistweave.

A non-specific problem is that ALL classes have a lot of downtime. They just sit there not casting or attacking a lot while in combat.

I don't see what the hostility is about here (not from you, Az). I don't want someone to blame, I just want to know if there is something being done and it seems like there is. This is a subscription based product, so to ask for some guidance when it is not working properly is normal. Hopefully this list helps.

 

[Azhemoth]

Prot Warrior: Seems ok. Could use IP more (much more)

Priest: Shadow does not use void bolt. Disc does not apply attonement

Fire Mage: No use of Cinderstorm and often sits waiting on fire blast CD instead of casting.

Destro lock: no use of final tier talent, its AoE stun talent, or havoc. I also don't think it AoEs but I could just be missing that

Balance/Resto Druid: Balance doesn't seem to AoE, but other than that I think its ok. Resto seems to be good.

Disc/Shadow Priest: Does not apply atonement or use void belt. Makes both specs pretty ineffective

Prot Pally: Steed cancels early a lot. Would be nice if it used it in combat if you have the 20% damage reduc talent and are dying with SoR on CD, but that's just a suggestion

Enhance sham: no capacitator totem, otherwise good

Frost DK: Seems good!

Rogue: I don't think it uses FoK

Mistweaver: despite the options, does not fistweave.

A non-specific problem is that ALL classes have a lot of downtime. They just sit there not casting or attacking a lot while in combat.

I don't see what the hostility is about here (not from you, Az). I don't want someone to blame, I just want to know if there is something being done and it seems like there is. This is a subscription based product, so to ask for some guidance when it is not working properly is normal. Hopefully this list helps.

I was legitimately curious, no hostility intended lol.
Echo is ontop of this working 24/7, but as you imagine he can't run every class+spec and check for every minor details.

Lists like this help developers a lot because then they can go directly to the issue instead of spending testing time debugging.

From what I heard, all the specs were copied off of what Icy-Veins said was the best rotation.
So the logic is setup exactly how it says to rotate. This is why some talents aren't used, because Icy-Veins rotations only use the "best" choices.

Usually around expansion packs the developers of Singular does this that way every class at least has something and none is left in the dark.
Then after this, fine tuning and general improvements are made as time goes on.

 

[EchoTiger]

Enha Shaman won¡t use Feral Lunge, and doesn't use Lava Lash as often as it should, auto-attacks waiting for other spells to come off cooldown instead of using Lava Lash... also, not as important, low lvl enhancement just doesnt work untill it gets Boulderfist (doesn't use rockbiter).
And noticed as Resto never uses chain heal.

Will add Feral Lunge into the "Pull" behaviors along with the "Gap Closer" behavior.



Lava Lash shouldn't be used much at all.
Its only purpose is for dumping excess Maelstrom power when you start getting capped.

But I do see what you mean where there's some downtime in which the bot won't cast any ability at all. With the default talent setup, this very rarely happened on my tester though.
Either way, I'll work in a way so that it uses Lava Lash as a complete last resort when everything else is on cooldown - or maybe add in a user setting in which it should start dumping Maelstorm at.

 

[patrik-x]

Hi!

Elemental shaman never uses Totem Mastery? Rotation i think shall begin with it. Every fight and if you move 40 yards away it shall cast another one.

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