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If i recall, the build is the same but you swap Laws of Justice for Condemn... Or maybe it was Shield Glare, not 100% sure.

But i thought a bit about this and probably the Condemn build is not as effective Exp/h wise, as you won't have the Nemesis Bracers and overall clear time will be reduced. Only way to make it a little more competitive with regular LoN build would be setting it to kill groups of 5+ white monsters too, but i seriously doubt it's gonna be nearly as fast.

i just tried the chinese version and bot cleared gr81 first try, but it's slower for speed runs since no nemesis, better stay here with this build for more xp in my opinion.
 
interesting post on the cn forum the poster does say is very stable on farming 81 and there is a bug with db that it dosent use condemn correctly
 
hi just farmed all the item needed for this build and i am struggling to do 70 can someone help
More details would be usefull... All items are ancient? how much thorns damage, thoughness, paragon level, level of the ramaldani enchantment, health, CDR, legendary gems, etc etc.
If your bot struggles it is because of 2 things. a) you don't have good enough gear to do high GR or b) settings on your trinity might be incorrect.
If your problem is because option a, then lower the GR level to something you can farm in 5-6 minutes, it's the best for paragon level farming and will get you more legendary per hour too, which will help you improve your gear and farm higher.
i just tried the chinese version and bot cleared gr81 first try, but it's slower for speed runs since no nemesis, better stay here with this build for more xp in my opinion.
Nice knowing that, thanks for the heads up! For paragon farming i will stay with this build, maybe i'll do some pushing with the condemn one, been able to farm 81s with the nemesis bracers (with like 90% success) but it was so slow exp-wise...
 
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i guees my gear is bad and my stat are terrible because i just try to do 70 myself and just made it with about a minute
 
i guess i will stay at 65 which i can bot with easy at ablout 8min per run
 
I've downloaded chinese files, now what? I'm a bit scared to run chinese DB and have no idea about build (
 
all u need to do is dump in to the folder where tri setting are like you do with the english one
 
the file u download is the whole db file u just need to copy the tri setting to yours
 
This may be a dumb question but:

For the Sun Keeper I have 4 primary stats:
Weapon Damage
Str
Vit
Damage to elites

Then I use Ram's Gift on it to add a socket.

What stat do I reroll for CDR?
 
i guess weapon dmg but i maybe wrong i see people do that with the steel charge flail
 
i guess i will stay at 65 which i can bot with easy at ablout 8min per run
65 is a good level to farm, just get more paragon levels and a couple upgrades and you will be running 70 in no time. LoN sader is a fucking nightmare to gear, you first go "meh", then decent, then ok and then good... Babysteps >.<

This may be a dumb question but:

For the Sun Keeper I have 4 primary stats:
Weapon Damage
Str
Vit
Damage to elites

Then I use Ram's Gift on it to add a socket.

What stat do I reroll for CDR?
Yes, you roll weapon damage to CDR, as this build does not use weapon damage to do damage actually
 
well u can open the the tri file in word pat then paste it into your one
 
I don't think this question has been answered and I don't know how important it really is but which steed charge rune is the best to use? I'm deciding between Rejuvenation and Spiked Barding. My reasoning for either is that while the rejuvenation does give a little extra health, it's not very much in the grand scheme of things and doesn't really contribute much to overall survivability. Spiked barding on the other hand offers a little bit of extra damage but at the same time its duration is so short it probably is negligible especially considering bombardment is where the majority of the damage comes from.

Also my sader is reasonably well geared out with 23k STR with rubies, 21k without, about 1.1m hp with 450m toughness sitting in camp, 45% bombardment, 64% cdr, P1300. However I only have 235k thorns and can clear GR80 only about half of the time if I'm lucky.

My question is how big of an impact is my lack thereof thorns damage making? I feel like with these stats I should be doing better and I suspect my low thorns damage is the culprit I don't really know how big of a deal it is. Generally when deciding between several pieces of the same armor I will choose the one with the stats closest to max roll versus one that has thorns on it or has something that can be rerolled to thorns. So to summarize is thorns damage that much more important that choosing an item with higher STR/VIT rolls if at all? Note: since I'm deciding between ancient pieces when I refer to lower stats I mean like 5xx STR/VIT with thorns vs 6xx STR/VIT and no thorns.

Last question is deciding between 2 shields. I have:

Lidless Wall with +20% Physical, Near 1000 STR/VIT and a socket with a Diamond
Final Witness with +15% Bombardment, Near 1000 STR/VIT and socket with a Diamond

Since it seems consecration doesn't really work I'm running Shield Glare, but I also noticed that even without the AOE blind it still does pretty well and so I was wondering which is better: an extra +15% bombardment or 20% physical?

Sorry for the long post thanks.
 
i will say 20 % phys becasue u already have 45% bombardment and thron is very important for this build given most of your dmg come from it i will say u can clear 83 with 260k thron
wish i have those stats my self lel
 
i will say 20 % phys becasue u already have 45% bombardment and thron is very important for this build given most of your dmg come from it i will say u can clear 83 with 260k thron
wish i have those stats my self lel
45% DIBS 30-40% of time and 80% DIBS while akarat's active this is about 60-70% of time, considering this 15% of bombardment damage from shield will give only 10,3% dmg 30-40% of time and 8,3% dmg 60-70% of time. And this calculation is not even considers posible 15% DIBS from shoulders and chest, total of 30% additional DIBS.

In other hand even if you have 20% phys ammulet, 20% bracers and 20% doombringer = 60% phys damage, shield with 20% phys damage will give you 12,5% dmg. If you use sun keeper you will get 14,2% dmg from Lidless Wall.
 
This may be a dumb question but:

For the Sun Keeper I have 4 primary stats:
Weapon Damage
Str
Vit
Damage to elites

Then I use Ram's Gift on it to add a socket.

What stat do I reroll for CDR?

Just to give you a little more information on this topic because I had to research the same question.

Your DPS on Sader is built around Thorns.

There are modifiers in the game which affect Thorns; Physical damage, Strengths, Elite Damage and any other gear bonuses that specify damage on skills or Thorns.

Weapon damage does not aide in your thorns damage. Your weapon DPS could be 0 and it wouldn't affect your Thorns.

In terms of the item you listed, you want the strength and elite damage as they add to your thorns damage. The vitality helps your survive-ability.

Re-roll the weapon damage to CDR.

it might take a bit, I have found rolling off weapon damage on my globe and Sader builds takes a lot of attempts.

Look into Arcanum Enchanter by xvjz. It's a sticky in the Plugins section:
https://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/plugins/186875-plugin-arcanum-enchanter-1-1-4-a.html
 
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the file u download is the whole db file u just need to copy the tri setting to yours
I'm aware of settings, i just have no idea about the build. What is the difference with usual LON?
 
Just to give you a little more information on this topic because I had to research the same question.

Your DPS on Sader is built around Thorns.

There are modifiers in the game which affect Thorns; Physical damage, Strengths, Elite Damage and any other gear bonuses that specify damage on skills or Thorns.

Weapon damage does not aide in your thorns damage. Your weapon DPS could be 0 and it wouldn't affect your Thorns.

In terms of the item you listed, you want the strength and elite damage as they add to your thorns damage. The vitality helps your survive-ability.

Re-roll the weapon damage to CDR.

it might take a bit, I have found rolling off weapon damage on my globe and Sader builds takes a lot of attempts.

Look into Arcanum Enchanter by xvjz. It's a sticky in the Plugins section:
https://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/plugins/186875-plugin-arcanum-enchanter-1-1-4-a.html

i was looking for that, nice!!! thanks :)
 
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