[Guide] Everything about Season 3 Monk Botting from T6-GR51+

[nichosi]

I'm not sure if it is allowed here to speak about other bots.

Well, admins can delete my message anytime, so I just want to share my little experience with ros-bot, pros and cons:

Pros:
— it is free
— it is not injecting in memory (so lets say a bit safer)
— it CAN SKIP ELITES, yes, it can, miracle, yep?
— it has less backtracking since it is not "exploring" rifts, but somehow extract "maps" from diablo client
— you can play around building your own "monk combat", assigning some skills and telling when to use them (avoiding options included). All these "builds" are shared over community, you can attach them to your profile and modify, which is very, very promising. You also can attach "item lists".
— it is fast. no freezes, nice FPS.

Cons:
— it doesn't have any "plugins"
— you can't do anything on your computer when bot is on (since it works like "pressing mouse and keys")
— it manages monk dashes badly (often there is no charges, killing boss is way slower)
— he can skip elites and he does, but often it leads to "hello all elites on the map" and loop of deaths
— did I say that you can't do anything on your computer?
— sometimes he just quits in the middle of grift with no reason (there are reports about it, so it is not just my experience)
— you can't start grift number that you want, he always starts with lowest key, so you need to hide keys from bot and this is very annoying

So basically it is good, but not as good as DB.
The only thing that change the picture completely is that he CAN SKIP ELITES.

Thats why I have managed to close 54 on second try with cold/FD build. Just simple as that.
So my question is — when DB will learn to skip, please?

 

[Xenetron]

You can't multibot

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[nichosi]

You can't multibot

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Actually thread is about monk botting and pushing the limits (that is the fun for me, not farming items and xp).

 

[Meat31]

OK so I have been running this profile a while. Working pretty nicely, I just think the Flying Dragon build is squishy. Positive effect is I have a lot of crafting mats. I have not managed to get any decent Ancient 1handers. I did get a nice Burning Axe of Sankis and Jawbreaker.. Now my question…

Can the frost build work if I just craft a really nice frost axe(Utar’s Revenge) from the BS? If so what would I use in offhand?
Whats recommended for stats? LPH on one, CDR on the other(both if I can swing it?)

 

[nichosi]

Working pretty nicely, I just think the Flying Dragon build is squishy.

Zero deaths / hour on farming 50-51 in cold FD.
I always use Esoteric Alteration so it is pretty solid.

But if you prefer dual — I was using Azurewrath and Rimeheart. You need 1 roll for LPH and any other rolls — for CDR. Vitality also works.
Best option is 2x 5-rolls weapons: Pig Sticker and sword (I don't remember name).
Target for 40+ toughness unbuffed and you will be ok.

But still I suggest FD. I was stuck at 48-49 and got 51 on first try when switched to FD.

 

[Meat31]

Zero deaths / hour on farming 50-51 in cold FD.
I always use Esoteric Alteration so it is pretty solid.

But if you prefer dual — I was using Azurewrath and Rimeheart. You need 1 roll for LPH and any other rolls — for CDR. Vitality also works.
Best option is 2x 5-rolls weapons: Pig Sticker and sword (I don't remember name).
Target for 40+ toughness unbuffed and you will be ok.

But still I suggest FD. I was stuck at 48-49 and got 51 on first try when switched to FD.

Yea but, Ancient FD is a myth for me. I can craft 231 of those frost axes, so I know I can get some good combos. I assume you switch out Taeguk for Esoteric Alteration? I also have been using Saffron Wrap instead of string of ears. I am just doing 45s though. It cant handle 46s yet. I don’t understand. I mirrored his profile minus the string of ears and have everything optimized for physical resistance where I can and RCR on the rerolls.
I can handle 53 on my Barb profile. I already have 100+ hours on this monk and was just expecting more. Its why I was looking to change it up with DW frost build and more “tanky” secondary’s.

 

[Ghostlorrrd]

At the moment running the FD fire build with the following items, seem to get stuck at lvl 45 (dying like a baby) but clearing 43 under 5 mins. Dont know what I am doing wrong here as you guys are running 50+s. Any advice in what I have to change ?

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[vuwrr]

At the moment running the FD fire build with the following items, seem to get stuck at lvl 45 (dying like a baby) but clearing 43 under 5 mins. Dont know what I am doing wrong here as you guys are running 50+s. Any advice in what I have to change ?

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On a personal note, I use armor rolls on gear instead of all res. This was the recommendation of both this post and Quin69's on Diablofans. This is mainly due to how Taeguk works I suppose. You should get Mara's or hellfire amu instead of Haunt if possible. LoH/LpS on weapon are the recommendation for FD builds, so yours is quite off. While this post went for 10% damage and LoH, Quin69 mentioned LoH+LpS would be the best overall so that is what I am currently using. Not sure what you are aiming for on the boots, with the secondary roll, since it should always be single resistance roll. Swapping Alacrity with the avoid death one might help if you die too much.

 

[Ghostlorrrd]

On a personal note, I use armor rolls on gear instead of all res. This was the recommendation of both this post and Quin69's on Diablofans. This is mainly due to how Taeguk works I suppose. You should get Mara's or hellfire amu instead of Haunt if possible. LoH/LpS on weapon are the recommendation for FD builds, so yours is quite off. While this post went for 10% damage and LoH, Quin69 mentioned LoH+LpS would be the best overall so that is what I am currently using. Not sure what you are aiming for on the boots, with the secondary roll, since it should always be single resistance roll. Swapping Alacrity with the avoid death one might help if you die too much.

thanks for the reply mate, still looking for a decent EoE but seems to be very rare for me lol. Also this is the only FD dropped in 400hrs gameplay that is quite usable...
Far from perfect gear, as for the boots, i got them from someone else lol. Have not found any better on my own yet.

yet thanks for the explanation, pushed me in the right direction (Y)

 

[nichosi]

thanks for the reply mate, still looking for a decent EoE but seems to be very rare for me lol. Also this is the only FD dropped in 400hrs gameplay that is quite usable...
Far from perfect gear, as for the boots, i got them from someone else lol. Have not found any better on my own yet.

yet thanks for the explanation, pushed me in the right direction (Y)

Since bot is still not as smart as human, I always try to get more defensive passives/vitality. I believe 1000 vit on FD also will push you up way more than just 10 dmg. Or (even better) roll LoH on it.
And your amulet is just pathetic (you don't have third gem, which may be esoteric for example, and 40% elemental defence makes huge difference). Also I feel that you don't have enough RCR (shoulders miss and 23% on cinder is kinda low).

Your goal is around 35-40 toughness unbuffed. You just said that your dmg is not a problem (5 minutes clear), so you understand that you just need to work more on survival. Make some hellfires (5th passive like Sixth Sense is very nice).

 

[Ghostlorrrd]

Since bot is still not as smart as human, I always try to get more defensive passives/vitality. I believe 1000 vit on FD also will push you up way more than just 10 dmg. Or (even better) roll LoH on it.
And your amulet is just pathetic (you don't have third gem, which may be esoteric for example, and 40% elemental defence makes huge difference). Also I fell that you don't have enough RCR (shoulders miss and 23% on cinder is kinda low).

Your goal is around 35-40 toughness unbuffed.

Thanks for yet another reply mate, I know the amu is horrible to bad its the only decent one I found so far.
Will try to re-roll my FD with LoH and find myself ASAP a new amu

 

[vuwrr]

thanks for the reply mate, still looking for a decent EoE but seems to be very rare for me lol. Also this is the only FD dropped in 400hrs gameplay that is quite usable...
Far from perfect gear, as for the boots, i got them from someone else lol. Have not found any better on my own yet.

yet thanks for the explanation, pushed me in the right direction (Y)

For now you should really roll 6% crit on your helmet and reroll 10% damage to LoH. Think that will help survivability quite a bit through the additional healing. Damage is hardly an issue at those levels. Currently I am attempting to run FD with LoH+LpS and having Trinity ignore AoE effects since when it tries to avoid but then again not really you lose the extra healing that could have helped you ignore the attack all together. Seems to work fine for the most part. More intelligent avoidance would be the best of course but alas we have yet to receive such a thing

 

[vuwrr]

Since bot is still not as smart as human, I always try to get more defensive passives/vitality. I believe 1000 vit on FD also will push you up way more than just 10 dmg. Or (even better) roll LoH on it.
And your amulet is just pathetic (you don't have third gem, which may be esoteric for example, and 40% elemental defence makes huge difference). Also I feel that you don't have enough RCR (shoulders miss and 23% on cinder is kinda low).

Your goal is around 35-40 toughness unbuffed. You just said that your dmg is not a problem (5 minutes clear), so you understand that you just need to work more on survival. Make some hellfires (5th passive like Sixth Sense is very nice).

And when he says unbuffed he means when you stand idle in town, the toughness mentioned includes the passive skills such as your Mantra, although it is obviously a buff.

 

[Ghostlorrrd]

And when he says unbuffed he means when you stand idle in town, the toughness mentioned includes the passive skills such as your Mantra, although it is obviously a buff.

Alrighty, those posts are very helpfull and when I get home from work I'll get my ass into. And I'll try to re-roll some stats and change my Itemlist prioritys.
Thank you guys !

 

[ridz89]

thanks for the reply mate, still looking for a decent EoE but seems to be very rare for me lol. Also this is the only FD dropped in 400hrs gameplay that is quite usable...
Far from perfect gear, as for the boots, i got them from someone else lol. Have not found any better on my own yet.

yet thanks for the explanation, pushed me in the right direction (Y)

Don't forget to use kadala addon to spam buy 2h weapons for a few days, I always find I can get the gear I want through kadala, upto my second ancient FD, theres been quite a few non ancient but my item list salvages them anyway!

 

[Ghostlorrrd]

Do you guys prefer the cold build or the fire build, or does it DPS wise not really matters which one to choose ?

 

[vuwrr]

Do you guys prefer the cold build or the fire build, or does it DPS wise not really matters which one to choose ?

Had pretty good gear for the cold build and tried out the fire build with less than optimal rolls and personally I found the fire build to be close, despite having way worse items than my cold variant at the time. So I think it depends on which items you have at the moment. With best possible gear obtainable I would go with fire, 100%.

 

[nichosi]

Do you guys prefer the cold build or the fire build, or does it DPS wise not really matters which one to choose ?

Well, this is what I also want to know better.
I feel that in current stage of bot progressing cold is way more stable (less deaths, a bit faster clearing), but in general I see that all top-chart records are done with fire.
Maybe I lack some fire-gear, maybe smth else, but I have better results with cold FD.
I'm waiting for the moment when DB could skip fucking elites.

Because cold is way better on elites/boss and fire is way better on trash.

 

[nichosi]

In terms of defence:
Fire has mantra of dodge + taeguk.
Cold has dodge after dash + esoteric.
So it is pretty much the same. Except crowd control from Blind.

In terms of damage:
Fire has taeguk + way more dashes (how exactly more? who knows)
While cold has blind buff + focus-restraint buff.

And I don't completely understand how to compare these damage differences \

 

[vuwrr]

In terms of defence:
Fire has mantra of dodge + taeguk.
Cold has dodge after dash + esoteric.
So it is pretty much the same. Except crowd control from Blind.

In terms of damage:
Fire has taeguk + way more dashes (how exactly more? who knows)
While cold has blind buff + focus-restraint buff.

And I don't completely understand how to compare these damage differences \

Since the cost reduction for decently geared monks go over 50% the amount of dashes would probably be double. The focus on LoH/LpS add some survivability (in my case I ignore AoE) if bot doesn't stop attacking. Fire is way more gear dependant than cold so it would be easier to gear for the cold build while slowly fishing for good fire parts instead of suffering through the initial slow fire phase. In my opinion anyway.