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[Guide] DMO Mage botting GR 78

ive done 75 in 13:47 but 76 is really hard at this point. 2.4 mil dps and i cant kill fast enough to clear 76 all my gear is upgraded with lvl 70 gems and im about 1200 paragon. the difference of completing the 78 over my 75 must be the 1300 more paragon lvls. But hey this build works well
thanks for the post currently farming GR70sabout 80bil per hour and 30leg per hour
 
Thanks. Was able to finish a GR 70 in 10 mins. :D

This seems to work ok for me. Was able to complete GR 73 with about 30 seconds left lol.

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tasm80 said:
i imagine dmo at/et will massively outperform this ao build once its been officially updated. its a much stronger build.
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Is there a new trinity with that build updated?

I'm also not convinced that AT/ET build will be better for botting. It's pretty hard to use effectively even for a human.
 
Hey guys, my current problem is it's spamming arcane orb non stop and never keeps up Aquila Cuirass, is there any way to fix this? I'm literally doing GRs without the armor cube bonus at this point.
 
Amaso said:
Is there a new trinity with that build updated?

I'm also not convinced that AT/ET build will be better for botting. It's pretty hard to use effectively even for a human.
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There isnt an official one, I tweaked my trinity settings and rewrote bits of the routine and I can breeze through 72 botting using it hence thinking an official and well written routine will probably outperform. in seasons 900 plvl/16.5k int/full ancient gear/lvl75 gems/70 augments
 
Ok I finally registered because I felt the need to jump in on this thread to squash a couple things. Be realistic about your bot and character. While I'm not going to go as far as calling people out in this thread, there's no way this bot can farm 75+ efficiently with DMO Orb spec. It has nothing to do with your character setup and has all to do with the logic built into the bot itself. This build is heavily reliant on clustering packs effectively. The current combat logic for slow time is written in a way where clustering packs effectively is damn near impossible. If you actually watch your bot play closely you'll see what I'm talking about. Essentially the bot casts slow time on top of clusters all over the place, with some weighted logic about order of clusters. What that does is slows down the time for mobs to come to a central point, it's actually the opposite of what you want to be doing. I've tweaked a bit of the routine in mine to not look so far when casting slow time and I've seen more success at clustering bigger packs from an initial slowtime cast point. My charcacter has 830 Paragon, full ancients, pretty much all optimized stats on items, 70 gems, and 8 pieces gems. My gear is not an issue yet I can barely clear a 75 and fail from time to time. If you don't get a map with high density of elites in close proximity to each other, you're pretty much screwed. Maps like sewers and the prison maze are the worst ones you can get. I've scaled down to 71 and the fastest clear I've had was 7min 12sec.

There are other bot related issues that will prevent you from achieving better results. One of the big ones is progression globes. While increasing the search range has helped with some of that problem, I've watched instances where the bot skips globes right next to it and moves on. I suspect this has something to do with it picking up a champion pack in its search range which might have a higher weight priority over progression globes. Once you start getting past 70 GR, picking up every single globe is insanely important to making sure you complete the rift in time.

Another major issue is non-optimized dps due to spectral blade targeting. What I mean by this is that the bot has spurts where it casts spectral blade and is not in range for arcane orbs to hit it's current locked target and doesn't change unless teleport is off cooldown. While this is less of an issue in clusters of 4 or more, it's a big problem against single target and ranged mobs. I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the mob moving and the bot not picking up its current new location. Would probably need to increase the refresh rate at which target location looked up.

As long as you're doing 70-72 with some level of efficiency, I think it's a good barometer for success. Anything beyond that point with the current iteration of trinity is luck of good maps. A couple things you can do to improve, or at least helped me:
*use stricken gem instead of powerful.
*stack arcane orb damage and arcane elemental damage where you can vs area damage. The bot doesn't cluster effectively enough for you to fully maximize area damage.
 
snapfits said:
Ok I finally registered because I felt the need to jump in on this thread to squash a couple things. Be realistic about your bot and character. While I'm not going to go as far as calling people out in this thread, there's no way this bot can farm 75+ efficiently with DMO Orb spec. It has nothing to do with your character setup and has all to do with the logic built into the bot itself. This build is heavily reliant on clustering packs effectively. The current combat logic for slow time is written in a way where clustering packs effectively is damn near impossible. If you actually watch your bot play closely you'll see what I'm talking about. Essentially the bot casts slow time on top of clusters all over the place, with some weighted logic about order of clusters. What that does is slows down the time for mobs to come to a central point, it's actually the opposite of what you want to be doing. I've tweaked a bit of the routine in mine to not look so far when casting slow time and I've seen more success at clustering bigger packs from an initial slowtime cast point. My charcacter has 830 Paragon, full ancients, pretty much all optimized stats on items, 70 gems, and 8 pieces gems. My gear is not an issue yet I can barely clear a 75 and fail from time to time. If you don't get a map with high density of elites in close proximity to each other, you're pretty much screwed. Maps like sewers and the prison maze are the worst ones you can get. I've scaled down to 71 and the fastest clear I've had was 7min 12sec.

There are other bot related issues that will prevent you from achieving better results. One of the big ones is progression globes. While increasing the search range has helped with some of that problem, I've watched instances where the bot skips globes right next to it and moves on. I suspect this has something to do with it picking up a champion pack in its search range which might have a higher weight priority over progression globes. Once you start getting past 70 GR, picking up every single globe is insanely important to making sure you complete the rift in time.

Another major issue is non-optimized dps due to spectral blade targeting. What I mean by this is that the bot has spurts where it casts spectral blade and is not in range for arcane orbs to hit it's current locked target and doesn't change unless teleport is off cooldown. While this is less of an issue in clusters of 4 or more, it's a big problem against single target and ranged mobs. I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the mob moving and the bot not picking up its current new location. Would probably need to increase the refresh rate at which target location looked up.

As long as you're doing 70-72 with some level of efficiency, I think it's a good barometer for success. Anything beyond that point with the current iteration of trinity is luck of good maps. A couple things you can do to improve, or at least helped me:
*use stricken gem instead of powerful.
*stack arcane orb damage and arcane elemental damage where you can vs area damage. The bot doesn't cluster effectively enough for you to fully maximize area damage.
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everything is well said thanks for your input. To be fair he said his paragon 2,000+ , look at his intelligence, its insane. Thats the only thing that will take you from GR71 in 7min, to GR78 in 13min.

and you really nailed the main issue "Be realistic about your bot and character". in other threads people are cycling between Grift and normal (out of no choice for most, others will hide keys on purpose), which means you get Pool of reflection...25% xp. Don't post your xp an hour if you got pools on. not very helpful towards which build is working most efficiently this season, just boasting on forums. only people above para 1000 are getting serious, consistent xp per hour.
 
snapfits said:
Ok I finally registered because I felt the need to jump in on this thread to squash a couple things. Be realistic about your bot and character. While I'm not going to go as far as calling people out in this thread, there's no way this bot can farm 75+ efficiently with DMO Orb spec. It has nothing to do with your character setup and has all to do with the logic built into the bot itself. This build is heavily reliant on clustering packs effectively. The current combat logic for slow time is written in a way where clustering packs effectively is damn near impossible. If you actually watch your bot play closely you'll see what I'm talking about. Essentially the bot casts slow time on top of clusters all over the place, with some weighted logic about order of clusters. What that does is slows down the time for mobs to come to a central point, it's actually the opposite of what you want to be doing. I've tweaked a bit of the routine in mine to not look so far when casting slow time and I've seen more success at clustering bigger packs from an initial slowtime cast point. My charcacter has 830 Paragon, full ancients, pretty much all optimized stats on items, 70 gems, and 8 pieces gems. My gear is not an issue yet I can barely clear a 75 and fail from time to time. If you don't get a map with high density of elites in close proximity to each other, you're pretty much screwed. Maps like sewers and the prison maze are the worst ones you can get. I've scaled down to 71 and the fastest clear I've had was 7min 12sec.

There are other bot related issues that will prevent you from achieving better results. One of the big ones is progression globes. While increasing the search range has helped with some of that problem, I've watched instances where the bot skips globes right next to it and moves on. I suspect this has something to do with it picking up a champion pack in its search range which might have a higher weight priority over progression globes. Once you start getting past 70 GR, picking up every single globe is insanely important to making sure you complete the rift in time.

Another major issue is non-optimized dps due to spectral blade targeting. What I mean by this is that the bot has spurts where it casts spectral blade and is not in range for arcane orbs to hit it's current locked target and doesn't change unless teleport is off cooldown. While this is less of an issue in clusters of 4 or more, it's a big problem against single target and ranged mobs. I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the mob moving and the bot not picking up its current new location. Would probably need to increase the refresh rate at which target location looked up.

As long as you're doing 70-72 with some level of efficiency, I think it's a good barometer for success. Anything beyond that point with the current iteration of trinity is luck of good maps. A couple things you can do to improve, or at least helped me:
*use stricken gem instead of powerful.
*stack arcane orb damage and arcane elemental damage where you can vs area damage. The bot doesn't cluster effectively enough for you to fully maximize area damage.
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As I said, the whole combat routine needs to be rewritten in order to optimize slow time placement. I've noticed if you dont get hit, it places slow time offensively and then stands outside of it which means anything above 75 and youre just going to get 1 shot because youre missing 25% dmg reduction. even completing manually GR 78 with ao is an achievement so botting it is a pretty high expectation
 
ridz89 said:
everything is well said thanks for your input. To be fair he said his paragon 2,000+ , look at his intelligence, its insane. Thats the only thing that will take you from GR71 in 7min, to GR78 in 13min.

and you really nailed the main issue "Be realistic about your bot and character". in other threads people are cycling between Grift and normal (out of no choice for most, others will hide keys on purpose), which means you get Pool of reflection...25% xp. Don't post your xp an hour if you got pools on. not very helpful towards which build is working most efficiently this season, just boasting on forums. only people above para 1000 are getting serious, consistent xp per hour.
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Can only reiterate this, its all well said, I personally with some semi-decent/average gear tapped out at 68 and could only efficiently clear 66
 
tasm80 said:
i imagine dmo at/et will massively outperform this ao build once its been officially updated. its a much stronger build.
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I don't think so, at least not for one-man botting as I've tried a lot ( I have better AT gears)

At/Et build lacks survivalbility and DB can't predict incoming damage and avoid them as a human does.
 
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snapfits said:
Ok I finally registered because I felt the need to jump in on this thread to squash a couple things. Be realistic about your bot and character. While I'm not going to go as far as calling people out in this thread, there's no way this bot can farm 75+ efficiently with DMO Orb spec. It has nothing to do with your character setup and has all to do with the logic built into the bot itself. This build is heavily reliant on clustering packs effectively. The current combat logic for slow time is written in a way where clustering packs effectively is damn near impossible. If you actually watch your bot play closely you'll see what I'm talking about. Essentially the bot casts slow time on top of clusters all over the place, with some weighted logic about order of clusters. What that does is slows down the time for mobs to come to a central point, it's actually the opposite of what you want to be doing. I've tweaked a bit of the routine in mine to not look so far when casting slow time and I've seen more success at clustering bigger packs from an initial slowtime cast point. My charcacter has 830 Paragon, full ancients, pretty much all optimized stats on items, 70 gems, and 8 pieces gems. My gear is not an issue yet I can barely clear a 75 and fail from time to time. If you don't get a map with high density of elites in close proximity to each other, you're pretty much screwed. Maps like sewers and the prison maze are the worst ones you can get. I've scaled down to 71 and the fastest clear I've had was 7min 12sec.

There are other bot related issues that will prevent you from achieving better results. One of the big ones is progression globes. While increasing the search range has helped with some of that problem, I've watched instances where the bot skips globes right next to it and moves on. I suspect this has something to do with it picking up a champion pack in its search range which might have a higher weight priority over progression globes. Once you start getting past 70 GR, picking up every single globe is insanely important to making sure you complete the rift in time.

Another major issue is non-optimized dps due to spectral blade targeting. What I mean by this is that the bot has spurts where it casts spectral blade and is not in range for arcane orbs to hit it's current locked target and doesn't change unless teleport is off cooldown. While this is less of an issue in clusters of 4 or more, it's a big problem against single target and ranged mobs. I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the mob moving and the bot not picking up its current new location. Would probably need to increase the refresh rate at which target location looked up.

As long as you're doing 70-72 with some level of efficiency, I think it's a good barometer for success. Anything beyond that point with the current iteration of trinity is luck of good maps. A couple things you can do to improve, or at least helped me:
*use stricken gem instead of powerful.
*stack arcane orb damage and arcane elemental damage where you can vs area damage. The bot doesn't cluster effectively enough for you to fully maximize area damage.
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You've made a good point.

There's room for trinity to improve I believe at long last DMO mage can bot 80s or more.
 
75 is my Highest with a min to spare but its not efficient to run this for anything but climbing the ladder and for that matter bots will never be on the top of the ladder so i just run 70-72 farm in 10-12 min each depending on density . But at paragon 1200 i can definitely see some one at 2400+ doing 78 or even 80.
 
It's nice to use DMO for leveling gems to 70+. Other than that though, if you want to farm XP, I just recommend using a variation of Flash Fire Wiz and speedfarming GR 60-65. You can definitely get two GR 60-65 Runs for every one GR70+ Run...
 
Excellent post! I almost posted a similar response to this thread as yours early today but restrained myself as I thought it wouldn't be very well received. I have basically the same gear and paragons as you and I experience the same problems at the same level 75. Your theories about why the bot is capping out at this level all make perfect sense and are also inline with what i have seen. I found the DMO Wizard, while nice to watch is a bit boring and have returned to a Flash Fire Wizard with Furnace to farm sub 4 minute Grift 65's. Thanks again for the post!

snapfits said:
Ok I finally registered because I felt the need to jump in on this thread to squash a couple things. Be realistic about your bot and character.
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