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Fury Unleashed II - Premium

theres nothing wrong with fury.. you have to understand just because you obtained this CR doesn't mean you'll always be topping charts... not to mention fury spec needs alot of gear in order for it to be amazing. the routine itself is great but its your gear that is the issue... i was doing 22k dps at around 655ilvl but once i got a good trinket from tectus and a few other crit pieces my dps jumped to 25-26k and im sitting at 657ilvl atm. just be patient warriors are never good at the start of an expansion, why? because we dont have enough crit. but honestly most of the fights benefit way more from arms, so just play arms for now i promise you won't be disappointed
 
Just did butcher HC, ended up @ 26.3k dps, topped the meter (as always). 644, fury. Crit on all parts.
 
got a neutral armory for your gear?

depends what it is haha

9 epics, rest 630 blues

5 655
1 680
2 670, just got the wep from butcha! 648 ilvl fuck yea!


i checked maskedarmory but it reveals too much, sorry but i care for my safety :/
 
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theres nothing wrong with fury.. you have to understand just because you obtained this CR doesn't mean you'll always be topping charts... not to mention fury spec needs alot of gear in order for it to be amazing. the routine itself is great but its your gear that is the issue... i was doing 22k dps at around 655ilvl but once i got a good trinket from tectus and a few other crit pieces my dps jumped to 25-26k and im sitting at 657ilvl atm. just be patient warriors are never good at the start of an expansion, why? because we dont have enough crit. but honestly most of the fights benefit way more from arms, so just play arms for now i promise you won't be disappointed

My itemlevel (Even though this never equates for much when on actual encounters) towers over yours, and i have terrible results as fury in comparison to gladiator. I do half of the dps in comparison to gladiator as SMF, i have one mythic warforged bloody cleaver and a heroic bloody cleaver. And yes all my bonus armor items are replaced with items more viable for fury, i actually outgear my gladiator set when using fury gear. At your item level i was putting out 30k~ as gladiator on heroic imperator, using this routine.
If i had the money to do so i would purchase another routine to test the theories going around, unfortunately i don't so meh i will have to stick to gladiator.

As an edit to make it clear im doing 16-17k dps as fury and 32k+ consistent dps as gladiator.
 
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My itemlevel (Even though this never equates for much when on actual encounters) towers over yours, and i have terrible results as fury in comparison to gladiator. I do half of the dps in comparison to gladiator as SMF, i have one mythic warforged bloody cleaver and a heroic bloody cleaver. And yes all my bonus armor items are replaced with items more viable for fury, i actually outgear my gladiator set when using fury gear. At your item level i was putting out 30k~ as gladiator on heroic imperator, using this routine.
If i had the money to do so i would purchase another routine to test the theories going around, unfortunately i don't so meh i will have to stick to gladiator.

As an edit to make it clear im doing 16-17k dps as fury and 32k+ consistent dps as gladiator.

thats weird i tried this with gladiator and i wasnt even close to the dps of my fury haha this is strange
 
One thing I've noticed is that Berserker rage useage can make this play a lot better. Right now it doesn't take into account blood thirst cooldown at all and will use beserker raged any time you aren't enraged. If the logic for using it could be improved, I think we would see quite an increase on enrage uptime.

There are many situations where bloodthirst is less than half a second from coming off cooldown. It will use beserker rage and inevitably you will crit with BT and you would have been enraged anyway. When I play manually I'll only use beserker rage immediately after a BT non crit. If this routine could do that too, enrage uptime would be much better and so would DPS
 
One thing I've noticed is that Berserker rage useage can make this play a lot better. Right now it doesn't take into account blood thirst cooldown at all and will use beserker raged any time you aren't enraged. If the logic for using it could be improved, I think we would see quite an increase on enrage uptime.

There are many situations where bloodthirst is less than half a second from coming off cooldown. It will use beserker rage and inevitably you will crit with BT and you would have been enraged anyway. When I play manually I'll only use beserker rage immediately after a BT non crit. If this routine could do that too, enrage uptime would be much better and so would DPS

Yep - the most important part of fury is critting with BT because to put it simply, if you don't you will be unable to do anything (No rage) and you will not be enraging...i feel the routine has trouble with enrage that or it struggles with what to do during enrage?

I'm just confused as i managed to try some other routines and the performance was better.
 
I have issues with Ravager hotkey working, with or without modifier key. In chat output it says it's queued and I should put my mouse over the area, but nothing happens. Need a log for it?

Edit: It's like trying to cast Ravager but stops just before. Even in logs it says it's casting Ravager but nothing happens. One time out of 10 perhaps it goes off correctly.
 
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Short version: Fury is being worked on - Even though it should be fine people should remember that Fury is VERY sensitive to variables. One fight simply isnt the other. Even two tries on one boss can be completely different with Fury's RNG and crit/enrage dependencies. Berserker Rage will be better tuned in next release. The old rotation will stay available but the new development rotation will be default for everyone.

I have issues with Ravager hotkey working, with or without modifier key. In chat output it says it's queued and I should put my mouse over the area, but nothing happens. Need a log for it?
Edit: It's like trying to cast Ravager but stops just before. Even in logs it says it's casting Ravager but nothing happens. One time out of 10 perhaps it goes off correctly.
Thats a weird issue - Yes please provide a logfile and also include your current ingame home and world ms ping. I'll implement a quick bandaid in next release to account for larger pings.

It is but both are not as good as they should be :)
Working on Fury - First results are looking better. People shouldnt forget that Fury seems to be extremely RNG and one fight isnt the other. You can do a boss twice, but uptime etc can be totally different.

After trying tuanhas i feel like its slightly pulling ahead when it comes to fury dps
Being worked on. First results are looking promising.

One thing I've noticed is that Berserker rage useage can make this play a lot better. Right now it doesn't take into account blood thirst cooldown at all and will use beserker raged any time you aren't enraged. If the logic for using it could be improved, I think we would see quite an increase on enrage uptime.

There are many situations where bloodthirst is less than half a second from coming off cooldown. It will use beserker rage and inevitably you will crit with BT and you would have been enraged anyway. When I play manually I'll only use beserker rage immediately after a BT non crit. If this routine could do that too, enrage uptime would be much better and so would DPS
Next version will have updated Fury which takes Bloodthirst into account.

Could arcane torrent (blood elf racial) be added as a interrupt option please?
Yes. Added to the todo list.

My itemlevel (Even though this never equates for much when on actual encounters) towers over yours, and i have terrible results as fury in comparison to gladiator. I do half of the dps in comparison to gladiator as SMF, i have one mythic warforged bloody cleaver and a heroic bloody cleaver. And yes all my bonus armor items are replaced with items more viable for fury, i actually outgear my gladiator set when using fury gear. At your item level i was putting out 30k~ as gladiator on heroic imperator, using this routine.
If i had the money to do so i would purchase another routine to test the theories going around, unfortunately i don't so meh i will have to stick to gladiator.

As an edit to make it clear im doing 16-17k dps as fury and 32k+ consistent dps as gladiator.
The problem is - The current Fury rotation is doing what Simcraft is doing rotational wise. So either there is something wrong with Fury's simcraft or I made a mistake ...

Just did butcher HC, ended up @ 26.3k dps, topped the meter (as always). 644, fury. Crit on all parts.
Good to hear that it's performing well for you :).

I'm using the trial version.
Ran this on my fury warrior ilvl 650, fighting imperator i'm getting a poorly 15k dps while simcraft is showing me I should be getting around 21-24k dps. Resulst into removed from group due low dps.
I'm using bloodbath and ravager on a hotkey so this isn't the issue, doesn't always work but whatever.
However when running the FREE TuanHA Warrior - The Ultimate Experience I'm getting around 18-19k dps.

So, what are recommened setting for this CC? I'm not really tempted to buy this if a free profile is doing better dps.
Thanks
It's being worked on - Fury that is. And first results are looking somewhat promising. Keep in mind that NO fight is the same - Even fights on the same boss have countless of variables and Fury is very sensitive for these slight changes.

theres nothing wrong with fury.. you have to understand just because you obtained this CR doesn't mean you'll always be topping charts... not to mention fury spec needs alot of gear in order for it to be amazing. the routine itself is great but its your gear that is the issue... i was doing 22k dps at around 655ilvl but once i got a good trinket from tectus and a few other crit pieces my dps jumped to 25-26k and im sitting at 657ilvl atm. just be patient warriors are never good at the start of an expansion, why? because we dont have enough crit. but honestly most of the fights benefit way more from arms, so just play arms for now i promise you won't be disappointed
I do have to agree with this guy. There is a minor issue with Fury somwhere and its being worked on, but overall it should be fine.
 
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Do we select the development rotation then? I've stopped using my warrior due to it not being "right".
 
From what I can see the Berserker rage is not incorporated in the normal arms rotation.

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Lol nvm it doesn't give rage anymore
 
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The CR continue to use whirlwind in fury spec if the CR detect 3 ennemy close, even with multitarget off
 
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