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Blizzard Has Sued Us

Kost said:
I only bot for archeology and farming mobs that drop rare pets or grinding reputation/fishing/leveling. In other words, i dont bot for profit. I actually farm anything i sell on the AH by hand even though i could use HB to do it. In all honestly, im not sure whether botting is ultimately bad or good, i think when you add in chinese farmers that can compete with the bots the question becomes moot. Even if there was no botting its unlikely anything in game would change because of them.

From personal experience, mass botting back during vanilla with wowglider ruined the game for me. It became nearly impossible to farm any substantial amount of gold without investing an undoable amount of time with my schedule. Back then, nodes didnt spawn based on how many people were in the zones, but rather there was a finite amount of stuff that could be gathered because it was based on timers.

Still, im glad i can bot now because if i wasnt i probably wouldnt still be playing. It takes way too much time to grind all that stuff. I would never have even gotten into pvp if it wasnt for botting. I would run in and die in 3 seconds flat without resilience gear and get sick of it before i could even accumulate any gear. Thanks to botting, i was able to get some honor gear and find pvp fun enough to keep doing it, without the bot.

For me, its about playing the game the way i want to in a way thats fun for me.
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Kudos for using the bot that way but you may as well just use it to farm too, if you get banned now just doin archa / pet stuff you would have wasted all those hours you were hand farming when you could have been doin other more enjoyable things.
 
Kost said:
I only bot for archeology and farming mobs that drop rare pets or grinding reputation/fishing/leveling. In other words, i dont bot for profit. I actually farm anything i sell on the AH by hand even though i could use HB to do it. In all honestly, im not sure whether botting is ultimately bad or good, i think when you add in chinese farmers that can compete with the bots the question becomes moot. Even if there was no botting its unlikely anything in game would change because of them.

From personal experience, mass botting back during vanilla with wowglider ruined the game for me. It became nearly impossible to farm any substantial amount of gold without investing an undoable amount of time with my schedule. Back then, nodes didnt spawn based on how many people were in the zones, but rather there was a finite amount of stuff that could be gathered because it was based on timers.

Still, im glad i can bot now because if i wasnt i probably wouldnt still be playing. It takes way too much time to grind all that stuff. I would never have even gotten into pvp if it wasnt for botting. I would run in and die in 3 seconds flat without resilience gear and get sick of it before i could even accumulate any gear. Thanks to botting, i was able to get some honor gear and find pvp fun enough to keep doing it, without the bot.

For me, its about playing the game the way i want to in a way thats fun for me.
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Same here, most of the time.
I'm currently botting skinning though, since I need some extra gold right now!
 
too bad you can't file something right now.
Buzzard is getting its ass sued for copyright infringement.
The people who did guild wars was the first, and they lost big time.
So buzzard is going to loose as well ROFL

Maybe now it the time to hit back.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman88 View Post
Users are paying for a non-bot game...and they do this because in a non-bot environment the economy is ok. But again it does not surprise me that you come up with fancy explanations why stealing is not stealing and morally ok.

My personal justification was that its ridiculous that blizzard does not really go against them. I was so pissed off about botters that I finally joined them since Blizz. does a shit to give me what I paid for. A non-bot MMORPG. At least I think they are doing double-dealings in that way.
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^ That.. is FKN retarded.

Joined them as personal justification that Blz didnt do anything? B*llshit.

and for the record for EVERYONE! Even blizzard, botters, non-botters.

THIS IS A F*CKING GAME YOU MORONS! THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE NONE OF THIS SHIT MEANS ANYTHING TO ANYONE'S LIFE.

IF YOU ARE SELLING GOLD FOR IRL INCOME AND PROFIT SURE BE BANNED. IF YOU ARE PAYING FOR A SERVICE (BOT) TO HELP YOU STAY IN THE LOOP AND PLAY WHY BAN?

THE !ONLY! REASON BLIZZARD SUES PEOPLE (BOTS, PRIVATE SERVERS, ETC) IS BECAUSE THEY WANT THE INCOME OF THE GAME THEY CREATED!

Do you blame them? Because I don't.
Do I think it is silly to ban botters and attempt to bully and sue bot developers? Yes, because when one falls, another will pop up. So is the way of life.

/End REALISTIC VIEWS AND INFORMATION!

PS @Wolfman88 - Gtfo of here. Your b*llshit views and lack of support for this community with the lawsuit and botting as a whole is not welcome.
You come in here with your 27 posts mainly chatting in this thread about nonsense that no one truly cares about and let alone is practically siding with blizzard against botting even though you claim to bot for again senseless reasons.
 
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white_boy8869 said:
^ That.. is FKN retarded.

Joined them as personal justification that Blz didnt do anything? B*llshit.

and for the record for EVERYONE! Even blizzard, botters, non-botters.

THIS IS A F*CKING GAME YOU MORONS! THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE NONE OF THIS SHIT MEANS ANYTHING TO ANYONE'S LIFE.

IF YOU ARE SELLING GOLD FOR IRL INCOME AND PROFIT SURE BE BANNED. IF YOU ARE PAYING FOR A SERVICE (BOT) TO HELP YOU STAY IN THE LOOP AND PLAY WHY BAN?

THE !ONLY! REASON BLIZZARD SUES PEOPLE (BOTS, PRIVATE SERVERS, ETC) IS BECAUSE THEY WANT THE INCOME OF THE GAME THEY CREATED!

Do you blame them? Because I don't.
Do I think it is silly to ban botters and attempt to bully and sue bot developers? Yes, because when one falls, another will pop up. So is the way of life.

/End REALISTIC VIEWS AND INFORMATION!

PS @Wolfman88 - Gtfo of here. Your b*llshit views and lack of support for this community with the lawsuit and botting as a whole is not welcome.
You come in here with your 27 posts mainly chatting in this thread about nonsense that no one truly cares about and let alone is practically siding with blizzard against botting even though you claim to bot for again senseless reasons.
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for a guy who claims its just a game and not real life u sure take it seriously
 
see if blizzard was smart about it, they would pay royalties to bosslands for the rights to use this and implement a bot for the game. Why stop the botters? If blizzard controlled the bot they could restrict what it was being used for if they needed to. ie monitor other users. Sure it sounds bad but who cares as long as it automates the monotony of farming. Like for instance, i do not leave my pc while botting. I'm sitting in front of it just doing my homework or looking at youtube. If blizzard got payed for the bots ie a cut they would make money on top of having people farming(keeping their subscriptions). Banning = loss of money, so why do that. Bliz is already getting ready to shut down wow for titan so it really makes no sense to me why they want to lower their income. Just bad bizness sense imo. This is just a rant so don't mind my bad grammar:)
 
jagyro said:
see if blizzard was smart about it, they would pay royalties to bosslands for the rights to use this and implement a bot for the game. Why stop the botters? If blizzard controlled the bot they could restrict what it was being used for if they needed to. ie monitor other users. Sure it sounds bad but who cares as long as it automates the monotony of farming. Like for instance, i do not leave my pc while botting. I'm sitting in front of it just doing my homework or looking at youtube. If blizzard got payed for the bots ie a cut they would make money on top of having people farming(keeping their subscriptions). Banning = loss of money, so why do that. Bliz is already getting ready to shut down wow for titan so it really makes no sense to me why they want to lower their income. Just bad bizness sense imo. This is just a rant so don't mind my bad grammar:)
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Yeah but if you look from Blizzard pov, the ingame economy will go to hell because prices will go up by 10x so maybe a gem would cost 10k gold. The players that don't bot then and cannot provide that money will be heavily impacted.
 
LOL why the heck i see this post in the news post??? SOmeone just replied to it and it went to news or is something happening with the bot? "Alert time?" or not?

Is the bot going down or this post was reopened by a damn post?
 
I think it is completely ridiculous any court would even consider taking blizzards side saying that any other program that helps players of their game auto complete tasks are to be considered illegal. The idea behind it would be crushing for new programmers to have a legal right to make programs that others could in some way misuse and bankrupt people with new idea's. The fear in the programming field could really be something of a witch hunter pointing the blame of things on the wrong people.

I would then have to assume that if a player of the game does something illegal would blizzard not be to blame because they gave the chance of misuse to players??
How can any programmers be blamed for what others do with it after they take it home??
I mean you could look at cannabis seed banks they sell seeds but after people that bought them get busted by police do they bring the seed banks to court of course not as seed banks are selling a legal product.
 
economy argument

The argument that bot kill the economy is a little hollow in my mind. first, there were always farmers and they did it for money (such as Susan express). Second its not a real economy, products are "made" but the vendors do not benefit from the money its simply destroyed after its spent, so it does not effect the dynamic of an economy like the real world. Third blizzard could control it if they wanted, unlike the real world we are sitting on a server over which they have full control, drop rates, spawn rates of herbs etc... So game balance could be adjusted. Finally, market flooding (which is what farming does) drives down the price because of AH undercutting and if anything makes the commodity MORE affordable.

So frankly they can S%$K my balls. I don't use the speed hacks and stuff like that, the toon acts just like I would, moves at the same speed as anyone else. Blizzard looses no money because I pay monthly to play, its not like the bot adds time to my account in any way. So for me its a "soup Nazi" kind of thing.

Finally blizzard are Hippocrates, follow me on this. Blizzard is ultimately a Sony company, after you account for who owns who (Sony-USA), Susan express a wow gold seller operating out of Korea for as long as I played belongs to a company that is... wait for it... a subsidiary of Sony-Korea. So on the one side they sell the game, on the other they actually support a gold seller (that's never been shut down) they also belongs to their company and they make money on a black market economy.

and that's why I think blizzard if full of shit coming after botters. ultimately its a GAME, its always had a black market, they built it in, and ITS A GAME. they have lost nothing and they need to be knocked down a notch.
 
mikeclark797 said:
The argument that bot kill the economy is a little hollow in my mind. first, there were always farmers and they did it for money (such as Susan express). Second its not a real economy, products are "made" but the vendors do not benefit from the money its simply destroyed after its spent, so it does not effect the dynamic of an economy like the real world. Third blizzard could control it if they wanted, unlike the real world we are sitting on a server over which they have full control, drop rates, spawn rates of herbs etc... So game balance could be adjusted. Finally, market flooding (which is what farming does) drives down the price because of AH undercutting and if anything makes the commodity MORE affordable.

So frankly they can S%$K my balls. I don't use the speed hacks and stuff like that, the toon acts just like I would, moves at the same speed as anyone else. Blizzard looses no money because I pay monthly to play, its not like the bot adds time to my account in any way. So for me its a "soup Nazi" kind of thing.

Finally blizzard are Hippocrates, follow me on this. Blizzard is ultimately a Sony company, after you account for who owns who (Sony-USA), Susan express a wow gold seller operating out of Korea for as long as I played belongs to a company that is... wait for it... a subsidiary of Sony-Korea. So on the one side they sell the game, on the other they actually support a gold seller (that's never been shut down) they also belongs to their company and they make money on a black market economy.

and that's why I think blizzard if full of shit coming after botters. ultimately its a GAME, its always had a black market, they built it in, and ITS A GAME. they have lost nothing and they need to be knocked down a notch.
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you started out strong but lost me at "Blizzard is ultimately a Sony company" .. no its not its part of a huge money pool but they have almost nothing to do with each other. I'd like u to post any ref to Susan express being owed by sony or Vivendi which is higher up the food chain there
 
the real joke is believing that blizzard cannot do anything about botters flooding the economy. it is easily solved if it was enough of an issue.

using a bot to play the game is the same as asking your friend to play for you as far as blizzard go. 3rd party program, your mate, or the pet chimp, are the same thing according to blizzard policy.

blizzard can simply start selling gold, and the botting community loses a substanial amount of people. but so do bliz lose subs.

the botting community damages the wow community by trivialising certain acts of gameplay. contolling economies by increasing the amount of certain materials available.

its a point of view, alot of people who make alot of gold in wow do it by riding on the wave bots create. reduce the GDP in wow and components of wow become more important to all players. farming the mats for your flasks for a raid used to be part of a weeks gameplay for every raider, but now its just easier to buy them from a botter.

ultimately material botters control more than you think. the mats required to created items are assigned considering the average ecomony and the availability of the raw materials needed.at this point, if all the farming botters in the game were banned, then economies would crash, the standard of gameplay would decrease dramatically. a couple of months ago there was a small banwave and the price of an inferno ruby doubled on my mains server. not a problem for me as i have around 1000 stockpiled.

blizzard can complain and stamp its feet as much as its likes about botters but removing them fro teh game at this point would devastate wow. like removing brain cancer would be to a patient, removing the botters would have a larger chance of disabling what is still a multi-million ?$ cash cow at the delicate stage it is at right now. 25% of its gaming population have left in the past 2 years, the risk outdoes trhe worth. so blizzard will not take the risk.
they will not operate on the cash cow' brain cancer, instead preferring to milk it for all its worth until the botting community spreads far enough to control more than it already does.
 
ossirian said:
ultimately material botters control more than you think. the mats required to created items are assigned considering the average ecomony and the availability of the raw materials needed.at this point, if all the farming botters in the game were banned, then economies would crash, the standard of gameplay would decrease dramatically. a couple of months ago there was a small banwave and the price of an inferno ruby doubled on my mains server. not a problem for me as i have around 1000 stockpiled.
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It would halt the economy, but as they proved with glider and pirox, the economy will bounce back.
 
So, hows the actual lawsue going? what BS are they throwing at you lately?, any progress/news?
 
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