Best WoW Char Set-up for 5xBot (RAF)

[Joker76]

Hello guys, would be someone that kind to explain how can we raf 5 accounts + run dungeons? A guide ( or even a link to one) would be highly appreciated.Thank you

There is a RAF setup guide on Wowhead. Depending on your goal, you can set up your accounts however you like (copied from Wowhead):

1

2

3

Option 1 will allow you to grant levels to multiple accounts, giving you the most benefit.
Option 2 will only allow you to grant levels to your first account. However, you will quickly fill up the 11 characters slots per server so this will be less beneficial.
Option 3 will give more levels to the first account but also some levels to the referred accounts

Original Account can be a New Account as well.

Once you have all your accounts set up, you're going to need 5 Honorbuddy keys and a relogger to make things easier. I use ARelog. Open ARelog and set up all your account names, char names, PWs and window locations (see the Arelog thread for more details).

You need to be level 15 to queue for random dungeons, so I've found the best (and least stressful) way to get characters to 15 is to just run a questing profile. I use Cava's questing profiles. Don't worry about grouping or the 3x experience at this point, the first 15 levels will go by fast (usually around 2-3 hours). And if you get an invite for a level 25 guild, it makes things go a little faster.

You should also use the plugin LogMeOut to make sure your chars log out once they hit 15 and don't have to worry about a level gap. Neatherweave bags are a good idea too.

Ok, now that your group is level 15 it's time to start running dungeons. Here is how I setup Dungeonbuddy;

Tank:
Tank in random dungeons? True
Loot? Always (changing to Bosses Only will make leveling go a little faster)
Min Quality to Vendor? Rare (this will sell blues that you can't use)
Optional Bosses? No
Party Leader? Tank name
Party Members? Party member names
Party Mode? Leader

DPS and Heals:
Tank in random dungeons? False
Loot? Always (changing to Bosses Only will make leveling go a little faster)
Min Quality to Vendor? Rare (this will sell blues that you can't use)
Optional Bosses? No
Party Leader? Tank name
Party Members? Party member names
Party Mode? Follower
* Set follow distance to 5 for melee DPS, 15 for ranged DPS and heals

Disclaimer: This setup requires a lot of babysitting, and is by no means fully AFK. There are times when you'll have to manually accept invites, roles, or queue pops. And other times where you will have to fix stucks, re-queue manually or run back after dying.

Most of my groups have hit 80 within 2 days /played using this method. Some take a little longer because of group makeup, see my above post about classes and CCs.

 

[Joker76]

This I'd also like a guide. When you RAF let's say 5 druids, how do you make 1 tank, 1 healer etc.?

You choose the spec at level 10. Setup Dungeonbuddy as I outlined above and the CC will take care of the rest.

 

[noamchomsky]

Joker, thanks for the helpful tips and guide!

We're fairly limited in terms of quality CCs, especially at lower levels (hint hint fps ). Luckily, Singular does very well for Paladin, Hunter, Mage, DK and Shaman.

Which Shaman spec? I ask because I found Singular's Elemental to be extremely bad. So far I've only leveled my shaman to 33, but it always does the lowest DPS by far (in Recount), does only 10% of the party damage and often doesn't attacks at all on pulls. (Handnavi was saying something similar on page 2 also.)

Shaman: by far the worst...

@Joker76, do you run into issues where DB cannot complete an instance? For me, it would never complete Gnomeregan. Do you ever queue for specific dungeons, or just queue randomly?

 

[noamchomsky]

Here is how I setup Dungeonbuddy;

Tank:
Tank in random dungeons? True
Loot? Always (changing to Bosses Only will make leveling go a little faster)
Min Quality to Vendor? Rare (this will sell blues that you can't use)
Optional Bosses? No
Party Leader? Tank name
Party Members? Party member names
Party Mode? Leader

DPS and Heals:
Tank in random dungeons? False
Loot? Always (changing to Bosses Only will make leveling go a little faster)
Min Quality to Vendor? Rare (this will sell blues that you can't use)
Optional Bosses? No
Party Leader? Tank name
Party Members? Party member names
Party Mode? Follower
* Set follow distance to 5 for melee DPS, 15 for ranged DPS and heals

Yes, this setup works. It's almost exactly what I use too.

How do you set it up if you have only 1 DPS and 1 healer in your party and you're queuing for randoms?

 

[Joker76]

Joker, thanks for the helpful tips and guide!


Which Shaman spec? I ask because I found Singular's Elemental to be extremely bad. So far I've only leveled my shaman to 33, but it always does the lowest DPS by far (in Recount), does only 10% of the party damage and often doesn't attacks at all on pulls. (Handnavi was saying something similar on page 2 also.)

I was referring to Resto Shaman specifically, Singular does a nice job with healing. I haven't done Elemental in a long time so I'm guessing the CC is probably bugged. You might want to make a report in the Singular thread and hopefully Bobby can look at it.

@Joker76, do you run into issues where DB cannot complete an instance? For me, it would never complete Gnomeregan. Do you ever queue for specific dungeons, or just queue randomly?

Yes, Gnomeregan can be troublesome along with several others. If you find your group getting stuck or dying over and over then it's better to queue up for a specific dungeon until your timer runs out and you can re-queue random.

Yes, this setup works. It's almost exactly what I use too.

How do you set it up if you have only 1 DPS and 1 healer in your party and you're queuing for randoms?

Not sure, I only use it for my own 5-mans to avoid being reported. Maybe check the Dungeonbuddy thread to see if anyone else is doing something like that.

 

[stelios21]

@Joker76 Thanks dude!!

Could you please elaborate more what plugins should we use so if the 1 of our bots is kicked out, no one will come inside our random instance and report us.

Also whats the combination should we use to be undetectable ( assuming IP,names etc are sorted ) ? I think the 2nd option is the best

 

[noamchomsky]

Tank should be definitely a paladin! I used 10pala tanks for each RAF setup I had, probably the highest AOE due to HOTR,Consecretion and Avenger's Shield in early levels. Barely needs any healing even without heirlooms, if you get the glyph which enhances one of the seals that causes you to heal the party with each swing, you will be better off.

Brilliant!

Can you run 5 Prot paladins with DB?

 

[Joker76]

@Joker76 Thanks dude!!

Could you please elaborate more what plugins should we use so if the 1 of our bots is kicked out, no one will come inside our random instance and report us.

As long as you have party mode set up in Bot Config with Leader/Follower and all your character names, you should never have to worry about this. I've had accounts DC randomly but it never invited a non-party member from outside my group.

Also whats the combination should we use to be undetectable ( assuming IP,names etc are sorted ) ? I think the 2nd option is the best

Honestly, I don't do anything like this. They all run on 1 machine, same IP, different BNet accounts though.

 

[zin.rokh]

Some custom classes do not maximize a toons potential DPS.

for example my hunter, warlock, death knight, and warrior are all ilvl 514-516 yet hunter is geting 100K dps in ToT, death knight 80-90K, warlock/warrior 70k

I feel the party composition is not as important as how Honorbuddy is able to properly target, move, and DPS a target.

Hunters IMO are the best DPS for 5 man parties because they generally have some of the highest recount DPS when using Honorbuddy, and because of their range it helps with a lot of encounters and just overall movement and targeting.

I think best party for 5 manning dungeons would be

Tank: Paladin or Death Knight
DPS: all 3 Hunters
Heals: Druid

 

[noamchomsky]

I feel the party composition is not as important as how Honorbuddy is able to properly target, move, and DPS a target.

This.

That's what makes Joker's input all the more useful. He's tried every class numerous times and found which classes excel.

 

[cike]

do you guys think its possible and maybe "worth" getting 10x 90 to get them in 10man raids .. maybe hero?

*cause ilvl463 is not taht good ....

 

[bloodmarks]

if you want higher item level than 463 just go LFR it is 522 currently you dont need 10 1 is enough

 

[Emptytester]

I recently setup 5 bots for farming and i did the following.

Tank: Druid
Healer: Druid
DPS: Druid
DPS: Druid
DPS: Druid

Druids are the best for farming mats, i used multiboxing via honorbuddy to level to 15 then i used dungeon buddy from 15 - 80 was able to hit level 80 within a week.

I should also add that all 3 DPS were feral

 

[cike]

LFR with 5x BOT? not that good i guess =)

 

[fpsware]

I'm on my 13th 5-man group and I've done all the classes at least twice.

We're fairly limited in terms of quality CCs, especially at lower levels (hint hint fps ). Luckily, Singular does very well for Paladin, Hunter, Mage, DK and Shaman. Most times you'll find that your tank is top DPS until you get into BC/WoTLK dungeons, but that's not a CC issue it's just the way the game scales with content right now.

I find TuanHA's CCs very good and they have a lot of customization options. But they are intended for high level content, they don't always work very well at lower levels. This is the CC to use for Monk and Rogue.

PureRotation v2 seems to crash frequently when using it with the IWantMovement plugin (which is pretty much required for dungeons). And again, it's intended for higher level content. I did get it working decently with my Fury Warrior but still doing about 3/4 the damage of my F Mage and BM Hunter.

I rotate my play times and take days off here and there, do some crafting on occasion and buy/sell stuff on the AH. Just don't run 10-12 hours per session and you should be fine.

If you really want to go for speed leveling, you're best bet is to use the following setup;

Tank: Paladin
DPS: Frost Mage, BM Hunter, Frost Mage (or any mix of Hunters/Mages)
Healer: Shaman - be sure to set the Healing Purge % to like 80 and you'll never die

BM Hunters and Frost Mages are very good DPS from early levels and require little to no tweaking. They get even better at higher levels once you open up Frost Bomb and Blink Strikes. There are other classes/CCs which might do slightly more DPS but not as consistently and easily. The less time you have to spend babysitting/tweaking your CCs, the less headaches you'll have.

I think 5x Paladins would be good too as someone suggested earlier in the thread. I might give that a try next.

I see what you did there

 

[cike]

i hoped to easy set a team/party together to get them to higher ilvl gear... that would be a nice new idea..

but 10x wow acc (440?)+ 10x bot (200?)+ 10 game time (220? every 2nd month)... means like 640?

just to get them to ilvl5xx and sell them afterwards just with few bucks effort?

 

[cike]

im on 5 RAF.
Tank: Pala
Heal: Shaman
DPS: Hunter
DPS: Hunter
DPS: Mage

it took like 2h to get them all to 15. after they hit all 15 .. they group up to get in random Dungeons.
21h /played = lvl 38 ... not that bad.

what i need now is a better plugin to remove greens/blue.... there is a bug that my chars cant send or sell them ... they always jump infront the mailbox and wont act anymore ... )=

 

[macedawg]

my group has just hit 80

ive got the following setup

Tank: pala
Heals: shaman
DPS: feral
DPS: feral
DPS: mage

worked really well, diremaul is a fucking cunt of a zone lol, they needed a lot of attention when they were there but aside from that was able to just leave them. last time i checked was about 15 hours to hit 40. ill check played when i log em in this afternoon.

edit// just checked played. 1 day 8 hours to hit 80.

main problem i had was autoequip2 wasnt needing shield for my tank so was using a grey shield till 50, then a level 50 shield till 75. then manually picked up a shield at 75. still using a level 60 wep lol.

 

[Crazyness85]

Just hit 80 on my 5 box team like 5 mins ago.

Tank: druid
Healer: druid
DPS: destro Lock
DPS Fire mage
DPS: Enhance Shaman

Total /played is 1 day 23 hours... next run through will be faster due to less messing around with it.

it all went pretty smooth I manually ran them 1-40, then did dungeon buddy from 40-80 mostly. Dungeon buddy requires you to be at the keyboard watching it, its not afkable at all.

 

[standza]

I have 4 RAf toons and I am waiting for right script. I dont need to bother with dungeonbuddy and wait for que