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Banwave goes out targeting AH bot users

Ratz241 said:
AH botters are a completely different level of wrong to gold farming botters, anyone who disagrees is a tool, no offence.

It's like shoplifting and armed robbery, both wrong, one worse than the other and before I get quoted by some idiot who think's I'm a hypocrite for stating this I would just like you to sit back in your chair and think about it for a second, It's the reason there's been a banwave so fast, because it's so fucked up.
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-.- you cant be serious. the only reason blizzard has reactet "fast" is that its more visible in it effects for the regular players. Goldfarming has a worse effect on the economy than ah botting does. Millions of gold pourd into an economy without an effective gold sink is driving inflation. And lets not kid ourself the number of botted accounts out there is extreme. Its not like wow where you have the enviroment regulating itself buy only allowing certain amount of farmers for one server to be sustainable. GPH botting will ruin this economy in the long run, ah botting wont, bc it doesnt create new gold out of thin air.
 
b4ldur said:
-.- you cant be serious. the only reason blizzard has reactet "fast" is that its more visible in it effects for the regular players. Goldfarming has a worse effect on the economy than ah botting does. Millions of gold pourd into an economy without an effective gold sink is driving inflation. And lets not kid ourself the number of botted accounts out there is extreme. Its not like wow where you have the enviroment regulating itself buy only allowing certain amount of farmers for one server to be sustainable. GPH botting will ruin this economy in the long run, ah botting wont, bc it doesnt create new gold out of thin air.
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No it doesn't, gold farming exists even if botting does not, there's people out there believe it or not that hand farm all day everyday, ah botting 24/7 on the other hand is a different species, do you not see the devastation that ah bots could achieve?? It's REALLY not that hard to see and I don't know why you're trying to convince me otherwise when it's clearly so obvious, even blizzard came down like a ton of bricks on ah bots because they know how much it will screw up their whole plan of diablo if it carried on, this shit isn't rocket science and the people who said what I've said know exactly why as well.

More gold and items will inevitably come into the game whether there is bots or not, period, however thousands upon thousands of people trying to snipe the same items for a certain amount is a completely different story, AH is a HUGE part of diablo, it also is the main lifeline of the game surviving, blizzard know this, which is why the put a ton of work into the rmah and banned everyone who used a bot to automate buying items.

If the AH dies, diablo does too, so for everyone's sake I think blizzard made the right decision in increasing this games longevity.
 
my botting does not effect anyone else in the game as i do not sell gold these ah bot keep me from being able to buy gear because i refuse to pay cash for gear on a game just to be able to play... so i agree with the ah bans keep the botting to gold/item farming and make your cash that way if thats your goal

Ratz241 said:
No it doesn't, gold farming exists even if botting does not, there's people out there believe it or not that hand farm all day everyday, ah botting 24/7 on the other hand is a different species, do you not see the devastation that ah bots could achieve?? It's REALLY not that hard to see and I don't know why you're trying to convince me otherwise when it's clearly so obvious, even blizzard came down like a ton of bricks on ah bots because they know how much it will screw up their whole plan of diablo if it carried on, this shit isn't rocket science and the people who said what I've said know exactly why as well.

More gold and items will inevitably come into the game whether there is bots or not, period, however thousands upon thousands of people trying to snipe the same items for a certain amount is a completely different story, AH is a HUGE part of diablo, it also is the main lifeline of the game surviving, blizzard know this, which is why the put a ton of work into the rmah and banned everyone who used a bot to automate buying items.

If the AH dies, diablo does too, so for everyone's sake I think blizzard made the right decision in increasing this games longevity.
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6 accts, 24/7 for three weeks. No other programs used aside from DB + IsBoxer. No ban.
 
DroidFanBoyJP said:
So using a bot to farm items to sell for RMAH, and gold to sell, that's ok?
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I didn't say its ok, i said it will be present in any game that has that concept. Also there is a fair random factor at what item u will get and how many of them u can get per day thus making it harder to profit then simply imputing stats of gear and max buyout and and then getting the item before any normal person can making it it a unfair market in RMAH and like said before they actually take it serious because a lot of ppl had problems with it and blizz was investigated fot this making them look silly and incompetent.
 
tonari said:
I didn't say its ok, i said it will be present in any game that has that concept. Also there is a fair random factor at what item u will get and how many of them u can get per day thus making it harder to profit then simply imputing stats of gear and max buyout and and then getting the item before any normal person can making it it a unfair market in RMAH and like said before they actually take it serious because a lot of ppl had problems with it and blizz was investigated fot this making them look silly and incompetent.
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gold/item farm pumps gold into the economy and drives up the prices on everything, and fucks over the "normal player"
ah botting profits from idiots/mistakes and drives up the prices, and fucks over the "normal player"

theyre both as bad as eachother, it blows my mind you can justify one but not the other
 
Polyester said:
gold/item farm pumps gold into the economy and drives up the prices on everything, and fucks over the "normal player"
ah botting profits from idiots/mistakes and drives up the prices, and fucks over the "normal player"

theyre both as bad as eachother, it blows my mind you can justify one but not the other
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Well that's my opinion, i don't care if some random Chinese bots and sell the gold or items, it just makes the market richer with items, however i do get pissed when they use it for real money purposes getting rich thanks to automated programs and thus making a casual player suffer for it. I have never sold a copper in wow or d3 and all i do is farm, i just do it for fun and to have stock of gold for me and my friends.
Probably this sounds stupid but that's my opinion.
 
This thread is full of hypocrites. Botting is botting. Both regular farming and ah botting have an impact on the economy. Unless you bot and have zero interaction with anyone else - Selling items on AH, selling gold on AH, selling gold/items for REAL LIFE CASH, you have an impact on the game environment. Sure, maybe a AH bot can have a greater impact, but impact is impact here. You can't tell me my five accounts pulling in 2-3 million an hour 24/7 is not doing anything.

If you bot in ANY FORM your a botter, your in the botting group - there is no subsections. It's a gray area community and everyone should be sticking together.
 
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I'm sorry but it's funny how people can think AH botting is worse than gold or item farming.
 
to each his own opinion, call me selfish but for me i'm just glad they banned the AH botters so i can finally buy decent stuff in AH without having to spend outrageous amounts of gold/money.
 
The thing is, gold farming may increase inflation (typically items from people who bot themselves), but AH farming completely eliminates any chance for an honest player to find a decently priced item (from another honest player that feels the item is worth such).

Play your game, overprice your items, but don't mess with a community tool.

That's like using skins and mods for an FPS (possibly to make enemies easier to see or just for esthetics); compared to aim bots and wall hacks that other people have to active/openly contest with.
 
Mirbz said:
The thing is, gold farming may increase inflation (typically items from people who bot themselves), but AH farming completely eliminates any chance for an honest player to find a decently priced item (from another honest player that feels the item is worth such).

Play your game, overprice your items, but don't mess with a community tool.

That's like using skins and mods for an FPS (possibly to make enemies easier to see or just for esthetics); compared to aim bots and wall hacks that other people have to active/openly contest with.
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NO it doesn't, i still can get 1 d 12h items just fine.


Not to mention, AH bot's aren't necessarily just pumping gold in to the economy, they are just buying low and selling high -- essentially just "moving" gold around; hell it might even be removing some if you factor in RMAH.

Botitng however, just pumps in gold and makes it more and more useless. The ONLY time i ever buy anything is when gearing up my dudes to bot. Outside of that, my X mil and hour just adds to the surplus.
 
carguy said:
This thread is full of Hippocrates. Botting is botting. Both regular farming and ah botting have an impact on the economy. Unless you bot and have zero interaction with anyone else - Selling items on AH, selling gold on AH, selling gold/items for REAL LIFE CASH, you have an impact on the game environment. Sure, maybe a AH bot can have a greater impact, but impact is impact here. You can't tell me my five accounts pulling in 2-3 million an hour 24/7 is not doing anything.

If you bot in ANY FORM your a botter, your in the botting group - there is no subsections. It's a gray area community and everyone should be sticking together.
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So much medicine in hurrrrrrr.
 
I approve of all bans - even if it is to demonbuddy or immortalbot users - it levels the playing field and weeds out the people who aren't willing to invest into the system after a ban.

I am pro banwave - everytime DB goes down the price of gold goes up slightly until DB comes back online - imagine what a nice banwave will do ;)
 
carguy said:
This thread is full of Hippocrates. Botting is botting. Both regular farming and ah botting have an impact on the economy. Unless you bot and have zero interaction with anyone else - Selling items on AH, selling gold on AH, selling gold/items for REAL LIFE CASH, you have an impact on the game environment. Sure, maybe a AH bot can have a greater impact, but impact is impact here. You can't tell me my five accounts pulling in 2-3 million an hour 24/7 is not doing anything.

If you bot in ANY FORM your a botter, your in the botting group - there is no subsections. It's a gray area community and everyone should be sticking together.
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That's like saying pouring 5 quarts of oil down the drain after an oil change is equivalent to throwing a biodegradable happy meal box in the forest after I'm done eating chicken nuggets... (pollution isn't pollution and there's varying degrees and impact it has on the environment).

You can still afford items, because anything below 30 million looks reasonably priced to us... where-as someone not bot'ing; it's impossibly overpriced and they'll never be able to afford it. AH bots also remove (or reduce) the possibility of said person to find something affordable.
 
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I have used multiple AH bots. Thankfully not recently though. I was making more money doing Sarkoth runs then sniping stuff on the AH so I stopped using them. If I was banned by them I should know by now right?
 
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