Banwave 22-11-2016 Discussion

[miloos]

i just saw that HB is not the only one who have problems in this November, people who using wrobot,noobbot also banned. that means that blizz need to sell more games and earn money it's cristmas time near

 

[birgppa]

Brand new legion account banned after 3 hours. Was running questing bot

 

[cveks]

I am 100% sure that Blizzard put small trojan into WoW which scan all the time all your hard drive and memory for bot traces. Only solution is to trick this part of software not to detect your bot software on your hard drives or memory. HB developers need to do that part of job.

At this moment we all need to stop botting until they dont come with solution.

Now when you register new account at Battle.net Blizzard REQUIRE that you give them permission to scan your PC for bot traces . They are forced to include that into their ToS because without that people could report WoW.exe as malware/trojan what game now really is. This is legal defense from their side , if someone reports that Wow.exe is malware/trojan who scan their PC and mess their files to antivirus companies from beeing listed as trojan/virus/malware.

So WoW is now 100% malware , which scans your PC take and sends your data from it to Blizzard - and we need someone to come back with solution how to stop it this malware.

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So you cant register and play WoW now until you don't accept this agreement, with which you give them permission to scan your files and folders, memory and send all data about your PC to their company.

 

[DrDoctor]

I am 100% sure that Blizzard put small trojan into WoW which scan all the time all your hard drive and memory for bot traces. Only solution is to trick this part of software not to detect your bot software on your hard drives or memory. HB developers need to do that part of job.

At this moment we all need to stop botting until they dont come with solution.

Now when you register new account at Battle.net Blizzard REQUIRE that you give them permission to scan your PC for bot traces . They are forced to include that into their ToS because without that people could report WoW.exe as malware/trojan what game now really is. This is legal defense from their side , if someone reports that Wow.exe is malware/trojan who scan their PC and mess their files to antivirus companies from beeing listed as trojan/virus/malware.

So WoW is now 100% malware , which scans your PC take and sends your data from it to Blizzard - and we need someone to come back with solution how to stop it this malware.



So you cant register and play WoW now until you don't accept this agreement, with which you give them permission to scan your files and folders, memory and send all data about your PC to their company.

Yeah i accepted and saw that message to while i believe is a big part in those bans atm

 

[cveks]

i just saw that HB is not the only one who have problems in this November, people who using wrobot,noobbot also banned. that means that blizz need to sell more games and earn money it's cristmas time near

that proves my point. Blizzard.net app or Wow.exe is now 100% malware

They scan your PC drives and memory all the time. No matter bot is passive or active, when they scan your whole PC they can always detect you.

For example each bot software uses certain dll files which have unique size and md5 checksum and is used in bot software only.

So plan needs to be to detect that part of blizzard malware and to trick it or disable it without Blizzard knowing that this part of their malware is not working.

 

[Xarian]

that proves my point. Blizzard.net app or Wow.exe is now 100% malware

They scan your PC drives and memory all the time. No matter bot is passive or active, when they scan your whole PC they can always detect you.

For example each bot software uses certain dll files which have unique size and md5 checksum and is used in bot software only.

So plan needs to be to detect that part of blizzard malware and to trick it or disable it without Blizzard knowing that this part of their malware is not working.

Is anti virus software malware too?

I mean it scans your harddrive for virus right?.

You do not know how it works, Blizzard scans memory space, not physical hard drive space. So much nonsense on this forum...

 

[seizan]

3 different BNet Account.

And
additional info.

1st account is new.
2nd account is old (with 2 banned wow accounts from last banwave)
3nd account is new.

Ok so is not tied to the machine running hb, nor the bnet account on which they are.
Seems like they can scan your memory (much more efficiently than before) or they're using some BigData algorythm to catch automated actions (but so many players banned within 2-3 hours of play, this is not normal).

 

[Digga2]

Blizzard banning botters thinking it will save their dying game, while my bots literally kept auction house full of useful mats/herbs/ores for people to buy, with steady supplies each day.
Go ahead blizzard, make them dead empty again, can't wait for people to start leaving the game again after the legion hype dies completely

 

[Xarian]

Blizzard banning botters thinking it will save their dying game, while my bots literally kept auction house full of useful mats/herbs/ores for people to buy, with steady supplies each day.
Go ahead blizzard, make them dead empty again, can't wait for people to start leaving the game again after the legion hype dies completely

If the AH is clear of your 1000000 stacks of 1 herb for 100000 pages, maybe people will buy wow to actually play the game again

Thx

 

[automationarmy]

I can bet my ass off, they have some super amazing script like facebook secretly got, with Analyzing different data, as play times, activities, chat %, TPS, Statistic, Gold Earned, etc etc.. Thats could make a clean in 5000 people reported to lets say 100-150 then the 100 150 gets manually inspected by blizzard's staff to validate botting, then ban.. I think they doesnt look what you do when you do it, but the result you got from your activities, and the result, is NEVER, absolutly NEVER hidded, you can't hide, its server-sided, currencies, items, char, all what you do is server sided, and its totally own of blizzard, so they can do whatever they want, they dont need to KGB-like introduce your computer to see what ur running..

After 12 Years they should have complete database of what each type of gamers is suppose to earn is a certain amount of times, like 16/day try hard can have up to 1x0000000 gold, up to 1 legs, up to... 10 Hours/day gamers... .. .. etc etc.. And all that shit together make big clean between false report and truth bot spotting..

Blizzard is rich now, they fairly can have team like Facebook/Google, they fairly can have that kind of analyzing script.. and it would explain the long calm period we have before hostilities..

Its sure this it how it dones, when i look at myself, i'm sure at 100% this is not a report, but its an addition of suspicious things i've done on my account for multiple times that could lead anyone to know that i'm botting..

I'm not sure how many times it must be said but they're detecting the injection/unlocker. People who have it injected and not played at all have gotten hit.

Different bots using different methodologies have been hit simultaneously and apart.

yiur right about one thing - it's not reports

 

[rogeriocamorim]

As i sad in the last banwave. HB is DEAD. It was fun, but now, i will do all by hand.

 

[automationarmy]

Tell us please what you did, proxy, different PC, accounts with o credit cards related?, dinamic IP, we need behavior peoplelets save this community!

He did nothing - he is going be banned the next wave. They stagger and delay bannings to confuse and make it harder on simple folks to understand. Going a day without banning isn't special wth lol

 

[automationarmy]

Lol, woke up this morning to two accounts banned for 6 months, meh shit happens, do i care? ill buy a battlechest on black friday and do it all again , Blizz are just hurting themselves when they ban sooooo many players, i bet botters give blizz a hell of a lot of money in subs, so for them to ban botters, its just stupid, tbh botting was the only reason why i played wow, otherwise the game is sooooo boring, especially leveling, but meh if Blizz wants to work this way then so be it

No they're helping themselves. Guys like you float them yet ANOTHER 60 dollars and they wait awhile and the cycle repeats.

Legit players gave them 60 once, the "special" botters and in gold sellers have given them hundreds and often thousands. Waaay more than they'd make off years of legit subs.

Keep buying fresh accounts post ban - gives them all the motivation they need to keep banning.

Course if the high estimate of 500k bots all quit tomorrow and never came back, blizzard would make 90m instead of 140m a month or w/e, I'm sure they'd be just fine so who's to say.

 

[frodzet]

Accidently attached HB to my newly created WoW account yesterday, today account has been suspended for 6 months.

Was just a bad habit, exited HB within 5 minutes..

I think it's quite safe to say that HB will never be the same again.

 

[automationarmy]

If the AH is clear of your 1000000 stacks of 1 herb for 100000 pages, maybe people will buy wow to actually play the game again

Thx

Gl w that. People are only playing now due to time invested and the fact it's the most popular faux mmorpg in town.

Games 12 years old, I woulda been gone 6 ago had it not been for hb and I've been playing mmos explicitly for almost 20 years.

 

[ByeHB]

Haha,
thanks for inventing Tripwire Bossland.
Tripwire saved me 0/x times.
Guess HB is diein from these detections, but you'll realize when first guys leave because of that high detection ratio other low level bots dont have.
I mean HB tries to do it the legal way as well and this lost you the game from the start as you guys are the bad guys in this story anyways.
HB is even so legit that it has a installer lol.^^

 

[Xarian]

Gl w that. People are only playing now due to time invested and the fact it's the most popular faux mmorpg in town.

Games 12 years old, I woulda been gone 6 ago had it not been for hb and I've been playing mmos explicitly for almost 20 years.

I quit HB 2 expansions ago, i too have played since 2004.

Ive come to enjoy the game much more now that i actually play it, you might find that some other people would feel the same way.

 

[Sumatro]

Does anyone know if the gold on guild bank is safe after ban wave? I saved my gbank with a battlechest and gold is still there & character is not banned. Can i expect a ban if i withdraw the gold with my battlechest and transfer it to my main or would you not recommend?

 

[ByeHB]

I am 100% sure that Blizzard put small trojan into WoW which scan all the time all your hard drive and memory for bot traces. Only solution is to trick this part of software not to detect your bot software on your hard drives or memory. HB developers need to do that part of job.

At this moment we all need to stop botting until they dont come with solution.

Now when you register new account at Battle.net Blizzard REQUIRE that you give them permission to scan your PC for bot traces . They are forced to include that into their ToS because without that people could report WoW.exe as malware/trojan what game now really is. This is legal defense from their side , if someone reports that Wow.exe is malware/trojan who scan their PC and mess their files to antivirus companies from beeing listed as trojan/virus/malware.

So WoW is now 100% malware , which scans your PC take and sends your data from it to Blizzard - and we need someone to come back with solution how to stop it this malware.



So you cant register and play WoW now until you don't accept this agreement, with which you give them permission to scan your files and folders, memory and send all data about your PC to their company.

Dont follow Bot devs propaganda.
Warden is intrusive, yes but warden isnt malware.

 

[crippen]

Wonder if Bossland likes this challenge. This is something quite different