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Banwave 10-11-2016 Discussion

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It's also pretty obvious that Blizzard's detections like this occur over a relatively small window of time. Like the last few weeks have been an obvious occasion where they were doing detection protocols but accounts not used in that window seem for the most part to be safe. That alone tells you it's not a 100% detection rate.



Not to mention some (like me) already have stocked on $5 sales and already have multiple accounts set up ready to go :P



You can try but so far those that have reported back have shown that Blizzard is maintaining a hard stance on most cases.

Still you lose nothing by trying.



Depends on the legal system you have. Blizzard have working into the EULA and privacy sections that you let them collect such data for the purposes of countering cheating, hacking and 3rd party botting programs. By agreeing to it and providing it is enforceable in your location you really don't have a leg to stand on in terms of the law.

Bro besides the injection detection they reserve full authority to Memory/Process scan. Anyone who continues to buy HB Products is an idiot and I believe Bossland knows that so they should entirely shut down the service they offer. I'll be throwing away my lifetime keys if anyone needs glhf. They wont because people just throw money at them. You saying it's not 100% detected is almost like me saying there's a 50/50 chance you'll survive if you chug a gallon of bleach? #Use your head.
 
haha they give warnings for calling them out. On there failed program lol. fuck off honorbuddy. rip your programs detected
 
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I have not botted in like 6-10 months

banned

I am actually mindfucked right now.
I guess I'm done

unbelievable
 
I have not botted in like 6-10 months

banned

I am actually mindfucked right now.
I guess I'm done

unbelievable

so you're trying to say you didn't bot for quite some time (like half a year or more) and got banned?
don't lie to yourself, man ;)
 
Bro besides the injection detection they reserve full authority to Memory/Process scan. Anyone who continues to buy HB Products is an idiot and I believe Bossland knows that so they should entirely shut down the service they offer. I'll be throwing away my lifetime keys if anyone needs glhf. They wont because people just throw money at them. You saying it's not 100% detected is almost like me saying there's a 50/50 chance you'll survive if you chug a gallon of bleach? #Use your head.



Ill buy those keys off you dont throw them away!
 
i personally have been through 2 firehack banwaves, so your kidding yourself if you think they are any safer. Its luck of the draw. pixalmagic, and the passive bot i made were both untouched.
 
There is a good side to all these people whining and saying they are quititing. If they do, maybe we will be a smaller target, and bliz will leave us be. :) i will bot on, i shooting for character 150 and on to be banned. 148 character since season 2 of wod gone, 7 bnets gone, but thats all on me.
 
I think it is time for honorbuddy to shut down, or turn into a gold farming bot only for the people that make a living out of it. Other than that, it is a useless tool, I used the bot on my second license 3 times in October, different dates, with the last one being october 29th for like 1 hour, fully monitored. In total, maybe 10 hours, in a month. I know people saying botting is never safe and you take a risk, but this excuse is so old and annoying you guys take it to the next level of "botting is 100% ban at least once every six months.", I am done with this bot, I was only here for the routines anyway, people been asking for a safe rotation bot only and you never deliver, not worth my time.
 
Whew, thank god I didn't bot. Calculated this mathematically, started my calculations around 3 months ago or so. Knew that Blizz is doing a "Survey", Ban reports were always from the same amount of days, 3,2,1. Etc. ( Day-span )

If i would've said something, I would've gotten flamed.

Sorry for everyone though, who lost their accounts.
 
I think it is time for honorbuddy to shut down, or turn into a gold farming bot only for the people that make a living out of it. Other than that, it is a useless tool, I used the bot on my second license 3 times in October, different dates, with the last one being october 29th for like 1 hour, fully monitored. In total, maybe 10 hours, in a month. I know people saying botting is never safe and you take a risk, but this excuse is so old and annoying you guys take it to the next level of "botting is 100% ban at least once every six months.", I am done with this bot, I was only here for the routines anyway, people been asking for a safe rotation bot only and you never deliver, not worth my time.
HB does not need to be turned into anything. It is as it always been a tool for farmers. It just became lately (like last 2-3 years) an option for all those plebs who are noobs to pull some decent numbers in raids or otherwise they would be playing LFR for rest of their lifes. And to those people, it is absolutely only their fault for getting banned on their main accounts.

So yeah, HB will be "safe" as always was. Use it properly for the purpose it has been made and you will be happy. I have lost 6 accounts and did not even blink when I got my emails from blizz. My main is still safe as I never botted on it and actually play the game and raiding.
 
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If they ban like every 6 months, we may just need to not bot after the 5th month, when approximately the scan begins. Some ppl that didn't bot after 7th november weren't banned. I don't know if the software is detected or not, but honestly, even if it's not detected, if you do the same route for like 1 month, same nodes, and put everything on AH, without changing anything, there's no need for an injection to ban you...even a normal player taking screenshots could ban you. :D

For what i tried to acnowledge it's a mixture of scanning and reports, imho.

Cause there are two type of botters: who bots for gold selling, and who bots for their personal use: the impact in the game of these categories is totally different. If there'll be only the "personal" category, i think that banwaves and generally "hate" agains botters would be very very tiny. I'm no one to judge the gold sellers, and they have all the rights to do what they want, but if i farm 3000 starlight roses and put them on the AH undercutting everything i have an impact on the economy, if i farm 1500 roses, then i'll use 750 for my potions, then sell some potions and some i'll use for the guild, i would have a totally different impact.

People who make real money with bots may be in disagree with me, and they'll be right. Of course i'm trying to defend my interests against other's interests.

Maybe we should change the way bot interacts with the game? I know some people can tell me: but in vanilla i botted like 24/7 without problem. Ok. But in vanilla u had only to do the epic mount and some other shit. Now, content is very very very very grindy and waaaaaay more complex.
Maybe we should make some restrictions like, can't make the bot run 24/7 all day? But maybe at some intervals...like, max 12 hours per day i don't know.
The "concept" of the Bot is actually making money or help to play the game? For example, some unfortunate and disable people that can't use hands. More fortunate people that maybe have a very very tiny of time to play but don't want to fall back. And we can take out infinite cases...

I hope no one gets mad for what i said, but it's just what i think.
 
Maybe we should change the way bot interacts with the game? I know some people can tell me: but in vanilla i botted like 24/7 without problem. Ok. But in vanilla u had only to do the epic mount and some other shit. Now, content is very very very very grindy and waaaaaay more complex.
Maybe we should make some restrictions like, can't make the bot run 24/7 all day? But maybe at some intervals...like, max 12 hours per day i don't know.
The "concept" of the Bot is actually making money or help to play the game? For example, some unfortunate and disable people that can't use hands. More fortunate people that maybe have a very very tiny of time to play but don't want to fall back. And we can take out infinite cases...

I hope no one gets mad for what i said, but it's just what i think.

I agree, i think there must be a limit of bot usage,'i don't like it when people are using 20+ 24/7 bots', just for gold selling en filling their wallet.
triggering blizzard even more to ban, but the "soft" hb users ,who only use it for rotation will get the same ban,only the soft rotation botters are not there for the money profit.So a good sugesstion.
 
HB does not need to be turned into anything. It is as it always been a tool for farmers. It just became lately (like last 2-3 years) an option for all those plebs who are noobs to pull some decent numbers in raids or otherwise they would be playing LFR for rest of their lifes. And to those people, it is absolutely only their fault for getting banned on their main accounts.

So yeah, HB will be "safe" as always was. Use it properly for the purpose it has been made and you will be happy. I have lost 6 accounts and did not even blink when I got my emails from blizz. My main is still safe as I never botted on it and actually play the game and raiding.

i remember jumping over from glider, and pirox, and i disagree. It was a way to get honor, and your basic fishing, mayube some gahthering. Plebs? Or perhaps its a way for a disabled person to play a game he never would be able to. i disagree that the vast majority that use the bot are not hard core farmers. I think casuals who absolutly hate questing use it for that.
 
24/7 hardcore farmers are commonly getting banned from reports, because they annoy alot of people in farming zones, my opinion is that blizzard will keep ban, because they make money out of it now 70% of people here with banned accounts will buy new accs and start again every bought acc is income for blizzard so it is good for them to make those banwaves. This is my opinion, restriction won't help at all and it will just ruin the bot, because everyone decide how to use it and risks from getting banned. Sorry for my bad english and don't blame me that's just my opinion about the things.
 
I agree, i think there must be a limit of bot usage,'i don't like it when people are using 20+ 24/7 bots', just for gold selling en filling their wallet.
triggering blizzard even more to ban, but the "soft" hb users ,who only use it for rotation will get the same ban,only the soft rotation botters are not there for the money profit.So a good sugesstion.

They obviously look at botters as botters no matter how you take advantage of it.
Perfect example for this is a purely rotation bot getting hit like 3 times in the recent months.

So don't think that the 24/7 botters are triggering Blizz. They look at rotation bots as serious as they do on goldfarming bots.
You can just tell by their ban rates.
 
It is quite ridiculous that now Routine-only users try to blame HB been focused by blizzard on the Gold farmers.

Routine users AS GUILTY as gold farmers , if not more, for this.

Gathering bots and questing bots have existed for long time, and people learned to accept them. They were reported, but no big deal was made about it .Talking Cata and pre-cata times.

Then the fucking routines came up, for people who are stupidly dumb and inept to learn a rotation. For the absolute crap of players, the sort that in the past would never raid or pvp. And the non-botting population started noticing about bots.

You messed with them. The bot (NOT YOU) killed them or beat them on the meters. They started whining because of you. You were so damn horrible at the game, that you couldn't even perform adequately against other players or against a giant AI. So freaking sad.

And you dare to try to put the blame on anyone else?

Personally would love the bot to be divided between Routines and repetitive tasks. but, only to get rid of the fucking routine casuals, who never belonged here anyway.
 
Any aré used bot from banwave and continúe suffred banning? I need leveling some characters
 
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