The ban wasn't for 32 bit bots as SBR doesn't have a 32bit anymore.
It did however use similar methods that they have used to detect previous 32bit versions (not normal warden stuff).
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The ban wasn't for 32 bit bots as SBR doesn't have a 32bit anymore.
It did however use similar methods that they have used to detect previous 32bit versions (not normal warden stuff).
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It's so funny how some people talk so much crap. I bet if you were setting across the table from that person. you would be a bit nicer! Just be nice folks!
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Not quite. SBR only uses 64bit now. Quite a few of us got the hammer.
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Where's the crap part in what I wrote?
It's true, he's crying. And the tripwire weren't activated because the bans weren't related to a warden scan. Simple as that.
OP obviously have no idea, hence you gotta talk in a "serious tone" for "dimwits" like him will understand.
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Enough said!
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They're referring to using SBR in that instance, I'm sure
How could i be reported for Routine usage lol i was doin dungeons on my own not with anybody.. and farming herbs and stuff for maybe 2 hours a night.. so its an |HB problem not a report issue..
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qztr yeah your right i do not have a clue how Hb works and never claimed to either.. but if i havent been reported as im not near anyone and only doing light farming by hand how the hell can i be banned if i wasn't detected by blizz... and the account is prob 6 weeks old and never been afk.. i only use rotations so you sir are the dimwit.
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Your story does not add up. Blizz doesn't ban 1-4 accounts if the bot is detected, they ban hundreds - thousands of accounts.
Either you aren't telling us everything or you simply got unlucky and pissed someone off and they reported you.
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I think people are always getting confused about what the bot being "detected" actually means.
I got about 1000 Accounts banned in total over the past 6 Months - and I can tell you this much:
What happens during the 6 Month-Ban-Waves is related to client-side "mass-detection" - Meaning blizzard is able to push some changes which can actually detect every single Honorbuddy running at a given time or over a period of time. Rumors were saying they monitor your PCs connections to other IP-Addresses - which would be illegal in Europe - So I'm not going to speak about that.
So now about detection:
Can blizzard detect the bot once they look at you or your client specifically? YES - 100%
There are usually 3 types of bans you get:
Suspensions (6 Month etc) - These are most likely automatic or due to reports by other players.
Perma-Ban by Realm-GMs - These are by teams of GMs searching on specific realms only. Usually these appear between 3 and 4 AM.
Perman-Ban by Global Teams - These are being applied by detection patterns across all realms (movement patterns, gold selling patterns, ip address patterns, hostname patterns, vpn's, etc) - Usually appear between 9 and 11PM, late at night or in the Mornings.
It is pretty simple - If your accounts get's flagged for a review by a GM - and you are using Honorbuddy - you WILL get banned 100% and the GMs detect HB.
If they really detect it with some kind of magic button or check - or if they just look at the mesh navigation, interrupts, singular specifics, or whatever they look for I can't tell you.
I would call it something like a "soft" detection they have going on for HB right now - if the server side detection flags you by a combination of various patterns, you will get a manual review, and if they "detect" HB in the review you get hammered.
Best practices to avoid getting stomped if you are actually running many bots:
- Spread your VPNs accross as many hosting providers as you can - Blizzard WILL monitor your hostname so if you put 50 bots on Digitalocean VPN boxes they will eventually check all Digitalocean hostnames at once and drop the big hammer on all your toons.
- Don't use cheap common VPNs - You will get flagged faster - if you use a VPN, get yourself cheap Cloud-VPS Boxes and install an OpenVPN server quick and dirty.
- Try not to trade off big chunks of Gold at once - keep it at about 25k or you will get flagged.
- Don't level with Kicks profiles 100% unattended - rather level 5 Man RAF in Dungeons and try to sneak to level 100 with trying not to get stuck in Quest profiles too much.
But in the end, if you are botting, you will most likely get banned.
If you are suicide botting - everything above 20 days is a good bot
I got about 1000 Accounts banned in total over the past 6 Months - and I can tell you this much:
What happens during the 6 Month-Ban-Waves is related to client-side "mass-detection" - Meaning blizzard is able to push some changes which can actually detect every single Honorbuddy running at a given time or over a period of time. Rumors were saying they monitor your PCs connections to other IP-Addresses - which would be illegal in Europe - So I'm not going to speak about that.
So now about detection:
Can blizzard detect the bot once they look at you or your client specifically? YES - 100%
There are usually 3 types of bans you get:
Suspensions (6 Month etc) - These are most likely automatic or due to reports by other players.
Perma-Ban by Realm-GMs - These are by teams of GMs searching on specific realms only. Usually these appear between 3 and 4 AM.
Perman-Ban by Global Teams - These are being applied by detection patterns across all realms (movement patterns, gold selling patterns, ip address patterns, hostname patterns, vpn's, etc) - Usually appear between 9 and 11PM, late at night or in the Mornings.
It is pretty simple - If your accounts get's flagged for a review by a GM - and you are using Honorbuddy - you WILL get banned 100% and the GMs detect HB.
If they really detect it with some kind of magic button or check - or if they just look at the mesh navigation, interrupts, singular specifics, or whatever they look for I can't tell you.
I would call it something like a "soft" detection they have going on for HB right now - if the server side detection flags you by a combination of various patterns, you will get a manual review, and if they "detect" HB in the review you get hammered.
Best practices to avoid getting stomped if you are actually running many bots:
- Spread your VPNs accross as many hosting providers as you can - Blizzard WILL monitor your hostname so if you put 50 bots on Digitalocean VPN boxes they will eventually check all Digitalocean hostnames at once and drop the big hammer on all your toons.
- Don't use cheap common VPNs - You will get flagged faster - if you use a VPN, get yourself cheap Cloud-VPS Boxes and install an OpenVPN server quick and dirty.
- Try not to trade off big chunks of Gold at once - keep it at about 25k or you will get flagged.
- Don't level with Kicks profiles 100% unattended - rather level 5 Man RAF in Dungeons and try to sneak to level 100 with trying not to get stuck in Quest profiles too much.
But in the end, if you are botting, you will most likely get banned.
If you are suicide botting - everything above 20 days is a good bot
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I think people are always getting confused about what the bot being "detected" actually means.
I got about 1000 Accounts banned in total over the past 6 Months - and I can tell you this much:
What happens during the 6 Month-Ban-Waves is related to client-side "mass-detection" - Meaning blizzard is able to push some changes which can actually detect every single Honorbuddy running at a given time or over a period of time. Rumors were saying they monitor your PCs connections to other IP-Addresses - which would be illegal in Europe - So I'm not going to speak about that.
So now about detection:
Can blizzard detect the bot once they look at you or your client specifically? YES - 100%
There are usually 3 types of bans you get:
Suspensions (6 Month etc) - These are most likely automatic or due to reports by other players.
Perma-Ban by Realm-GMs - These are by teams of GMs searching on specific realms only. Usually these appear between 3 and 4 AM.
Perman-Ban by Global Teams - These are being applied by detection patterns across all realms (movement patterns, gold selling patterns, ip address patterns, hostname patterns, vpn's, etc) - Usually appear between 9 and 11PM, late at night or in the Mornings.
It is pretty simple - If your accounts get's flagged for a review by a GM - and you are using Honorbuddy - you WILL get banned 100% and the GMs detect HB.
If they really detect it with some kind of magic button or check - or if they just look at the mesh navigation, interrupts, singular specifics, or whatever they look for I can't tell you.
I would call it something like a "soft" detection they have going on for HB right now - if the server side detection flags you by a combination of various patterns, you will get a manual review, and if they "detect" HB in the review you get hammered.
Best practices to avoid getting stomped if you are actually running many bots:
- Spread your VPNs accross as many hosting providers as you can - Blizzard WILL monitor your hostname so if you put 50 bots on Digitalocean VPN boxes they will eventually check all Digitalocean hostnames at once and drop the big hammer on all your toons.
- Don't use cheap common VPNs - You will get flagged faster - if you use a VPN, get yourself cheap Cloud-VPS Boxes and install an OpenVPN server quick and dirty.
- Try not to trade off big chunks of Gold at once - keep it at about 25k or you will get flagged.
- Don't level with Kicks profiles 100% unattended - rather level 5 Man RAF in Dungeons and try to sneak to level 100 with trying not to get stuck in Quest profiles too much.
But in the end, if you are botting, you will most likely get banned.
If you are suicide botting - everything above 20 days is a good bot
Wow man 1k accounts an your that dumb to keep going I have a gun if you wana use It.there's not that much profit in wow anymore.
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I think people are always getting confused about what the bot being "detected" actually means.
I got about 1000 Accounts banned in total over the past 6 Months - and I can tell you this much:
What happens during the 6 Month-Ban-Waves is related to client-side "mass-detection" - Meaning blizzard is able to push some changes which can actually detect every single Honorbuddy running at a given time or over a period of time. Rumors were saying they monitor your PCs connections to other IP-Addresses - which would be illegal in Europe - So I'm not going to speak about that.
So now about detection:
Can blizzard detect the bot once they look at you or your client specifically? YES - 100%
There are usually 3 types of bans you get:
Suspensions (6 Month etc) - These are most likely automatic or due to reports by other players.
Perma-Ban by Realm-GMs - These are by teams of GMs searching on specific realms only. Usually these appear between 3 and 4 AM.
Perman-Ban by Global Teams - These are being applied by detection patterns across all realms (movement patterns, gold selling patterns, ip address patterns, hostname patterns, vpn's, etc) - Usually appear between 9 and 11PM, late at night or in the Mornings.
It is pretty simple - If your accounts get's flagged for a review by a GM - and you are using Honorbuddy - you WILL get banned 100% and the GMs detect HB.
If they really detect it with some kind of magic button or check - or if they just look at the mesh navigation, interrupts, singular specifics, or whatever they look for I can't tell you.
I would call it something like a "soft" detection they have going on for HB right now - if the server side detection flags you by a combination of various patterns, you will get a manual review, and if they "detect" HB in the review you get hammered.
Best practices to avoid getting stomped if you are actually running many bots:
- Spread your VPNs accross as many hosting providers as you can - Blizzard WILL monitor your hostname so if you put 50 bots on Digitalocean VPN boxes they will eventually check all Digitalocean hostnames at once and drop the big hammer on all your toons.
- Don't use cheap common VPNs - You will get flagged faster - if you use a VPN, get yourself cheap Cloud-VPS Boxes and install an OpenVPN server quick and dirty.
- Try not to trade off big chunks of Gold at once - keep it at about 25k or you will get flagged.
- Don't level with Kicks profiles 100% unattended - rather level 5 Man RAF in Dungeons and try to sneak to level 100 with trying not to get stuck in Quest profiles too much.
But in the end, if you are botting, you will most likely get banned.
If you are suicide botting - everything above 20 days is a good bot
No offense, but if you've lost around a thousand accounts, not a single person should take advice about avoiding bans from you.
I keep seeing all these people getting banned, I think it might have to do with the HB accounts in the last year or two? Not sure, but I've been botting since early 2013 and I haven't had any bans at all. Not sure why this is but, like I said, I think it has something to do with older vs newer HB members. Just a theory though. I mean I literally botted for the last 36 hours non stop and didn't have a single problem. I just check up on it with team viewer every now and again to make sure the bot is running correctly. Normally when I use team viewer blizzard boots me off the servers after 30 of being disconnected with team viewer, not too sure why that is. But using an app that can remote control your desktop might make it harder for them to detect HB???
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im not botting to avoid bans if you run 100s of toons at once its more about other things - im just telling you how they ban and how they "detect" hb.
if youre running your own profile with just 1 or a few toons - and if your not reportable and you dont overtrade gold chances are slim you get flagged for a ban.
theres is still rng in detections - what im saying is even if u use rotation only - you reslmhop into a flagged guys group or buy/sell on the ah to a flagged guy or unfortunately are on a similar isp and subnet with someone who is flagged - you will get reviewed and banned if ur unlucky
if i would find out what they look at to say "yes ur using hb" i would be a happy guy lol
if you run 100s of toons at once its more about other things - im just telling you how they ban and how they "detect" hb.if youre running your own profile with just 1 or a few toons - and if your not reportable and you dont overtrade gold chances are slim you get flagged for a ban.
theres is still rng in detections - what im saying is even if u use rotation only - you reslmhop into a flagged guys group or buy/sell on the ah to a flagged guy or unfortunately are on a similar isp and subnet with someone who is flagged - you will get reviewed and banned if ur unlucky
if i would find out what they look at to say "yes ur using hb" i would be a happy guy lol
I think people are always getting confused about what the bot being "detected" actually means.
I got about 1000 Accounts banned in total over the past 6 Months - and I can tell you this much:
What happens during the 6 Month-Ban-Waves is related to client-side "mass-detection" - Meaning blizzard is able to push some changes which can actually detect every single Honorbuddy running at a given time or over a period of time. Rumors were saying they monitor your PCs connections to other IP-Addresses - which would be illegal in Europe - So I'm not going to speak about that.
So now about detection:
Can blizzard detect the bot once they look at you or your client specifically? YES - 100%
There are usually 3 types of bans you get:
Suspensions (6 Month etc) - These are most likely automatic or due to reports by other players.
Perma-Ban by Realm-GMs - These are by teams of GMs searching on specific realms only. Usually these appear between 3 and 4 AM.
Perman-Ban by Global Teams - These are being applied by detection patterns across all realms (movement patterns, gold selling patterns, ip address patterns, hostname patterns, vpn's, etc) - Usually appear between 9 and 11PM, late at night or in the Mornings.
It is pretty simple - If your accounts get's flagged for a review by a GM - and you are using Honorbuddy - you WILL get banned 100% and the GMs detect HB.
If they really detect it with some kind of magic button or check - or if they just look at the mesh navigation, interrupts, singular specifics, or whatever they look for I can't tell you.
I would call it something like a "soft" detection they have going on for HB right now - if the server side detection flags you by a combination of various patterns, you will get a manual review, and if they "detect" HB in the review you get hammered.
Best practices to avoid getting stomped if you are actually running many bots:
- Spread your VPNs accross as many hosting providers as you can - Blizzard WILL monitor your hostname so if you put 50 bots on Digitalocean VPN boxes they will eventually check all Digitalocean hostnames at once and drop the big hammer on all your toons.
- Don't use cheap common VPNs - You will get flagged faster - if you use a VPN, get yourself cheap Cloud-VPS Boxes and install an OpenVPN server quick and dirty.
- Try not to trade off big chunks of Gold at once - keep it at about 25k or you will get flagged.
- Don't level with Kicks profiles 100% unattended - rather level 5 Man RAF in Dungeons and try to sneak to level 100 with trying not to get stuck in Quest profiles too much.
But in the end, if you are botting, you will most likely get banned.
If you are suicide botting - everything above 20 days is a good bot
I've used Kicks profiles 100% unattended for a whole week before, no problems whatsoever. I've never used a VPN either. Does it have something to do with my realm? It was over populated about a year and a half ago and now none of the old regulars play on there much anymore.
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old accounts are less likely to get flagged it seems like if you have human like achievements, long playtime, long payhistory you are much safer then a new toon going for raw golds as soon as it hits level 100
we cant know how the flagging patterns work - but the overall history of your account plays a huge role
i mean compare one of my suicide bots with yours - i took less than 48 hours to level 100 - then i go for raw gold only not getting any gear or achivement progression. i get flagged anyway - you probably look more like a human player
ive had bots running raw gold for 3 months straight looting 15 million gold not getting banned but its really really rare - right now i have 3 accounts over 60 days just lost 40 toons yesterday - some 7 days old some 30 days old - theres a lot of rng
we cant know how the flagging patterns work - but the overall history of your account plays a huge role
i mean compare one of my suicide bots with yours - i took less than 48 hours to level 100 - then i go for raw gold only not getting any gear or achivement progression. i get flagged anyway - you probably look more like a human player
ive had bots running raw gold for 3 months straight looting 15 million gold not getting banned but its really really rare - right now i have 3 accounts over 60 days just lost 40 toons yesterday - some 7 days old some 30 days old - theres a lot of rng