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Anyone running 10+bots (what is your cpu temp?)

fr3357 said:
I agree with Apoc, unless your going nuts and sitting at max load the whole time or OC it to a extreme, air cooling has come a long ways, comparing it to running a car without a radiator is not the same at all... The fan in a car can not be 100% air tight sealed covering the whole surface of a engine, where as a air cooler can (as well as water) Just saying with the tech in air cooling its not to be under par'd to a liquid cooler. It is a matter of time and extremities you plan to push on a system that will make a difference. I am not saying dont buy either or one is better, it is all dependent on what your doing and if its a budget system or not, Why spend 50$ xtra on a cooler when ur cutting corners on everything else to make it cheaper? The one thing I would make sure is solid is a good power supply, seen more damage come from people not paying attn to system loads or buying shit ass power supplies for 20$ than I have for systems on load @50c
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My system is OC'ed and i had a rosewill fan and heat sink, back in the day on a BE amd cpu, it was going into the high 60c's which is bad. I bought a H50 back then and it droped it to 18c idle to 30c 100% load.

I would not ever go back to fan and pipe Ever. Considering the heat flow is managed better and does not float around the case.

Top 5 Heatsink Charts on FrostyTech.com

Though, getting technical you will still need to have Good cable management to stop restricting air flow, a good case with decent air flow i suggest full tower. NZXT Phantom is what i use. And if you want to dramaticly lower heat in the case try an external PSU.

Newegg Review: NZXT Phantom Full Tower Computer Case - YouTube
 
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I used a h100 on a system awhile ago thinking it would be better than air and quieter. I ended up getting better performance with a proper air setup than I did with the h100. So I thought maybe I should go for a push/pull setup on the rad. After spending $60 on 4 matching high end fans, and spending hrs getting the rad mounted/fit for push/pull, I had about the same temps and sometimes lower with air. Not only was the $40 air cooler better performing out of the box, having to use push/pull just to get same results made the pc much louder than it was originally on air.

IMO: The h100 is nothing but a generic water kit sold more as a novelty/coolness factor and for the lazy. Most ppl dont properly setup their rigs with air to actually make a comparison in performance with a kit like the h100. I will agree though water cooling is definitely better than air if you do it right with proper liquid hardware. Not the h100.

I just recently built a system and used this Link and amazed at the performace. I still have my h100 kit somewhere and tempted to compare the 2 on the same system for this thread. I am almost certain it would lose.
 
DTrick said:
try running a car without a radiator with just air to fan. thats why.

Fan and pipe is like hillbilly windows down in the car air conditioning.
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um, the noctua heatsink can go toe to toe with H100. just saying, and it's air.
 
The Question is how you setup your H coolers, Right now im at 38c its 102F out side i use a swamp cooler for aircon at the house which means my room is like 75 - 80F.

Running 3 SWTOR Vmwares, and 3 D3 atm, other 3 are off doing babo runs atm. and im gaming with BF3 off and on. comps been on over 3 days straight.

My air intake for my H100 is push pull air extraction with multi double fan setup. fantastic cooling. The only time id use custom liquid cooling is for SLI'ing my GFX cards.

but Air / pipe obviously the cheapest route, but i cannot go back not as efficient.
 
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I've got the i7 3770S (benchmarks only a few points under K and is cheaper), it was running at about 90 - 95 Celsius with stock cooling, slightly over clocked running 12 bots, I also had a video card so not running it off the processor. I am now using the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (posted above) and it has brought my temp down to 60 Celsius. Though I am only running 9 bots now as the first 12 got banned.

What is your cpu usage? Using DB now I am near 90% load, I think I could get maybe 1-2 bots. I used to use IB, it took up a lot less CPU usage.
 
kaze3d said:
I used a h100 on a system awhile ago thinking it would be better than air and quieter. I ended up getting better performance with a proper air setup than I did with the h100. So I thought maybe I should go for a push/pull setup on the rad. After spending $60 on 4 matching high end fans, and spending hrs getting the rad mounted/fit for push/pull, I had about the same temps and sometimes lower with air. Not only was the $40 air cooler better performing out of the box, having to use push/pull just to get same results made the pc much louder than it was originally on air.

IMO: The h100 is nothing but a generic water kit sold more as a novelty/coolness factor and for the lazy. Most ppl dont properly setup their rigs with air to actually make a comparison in performance with a kit like the h100. I will agree though water cooling is definitely better than air if you do it right with proper liquid hardware. Not the h100.

I just recently built a system and used this Link and amazed at the performace. I still have my h100 kit somewhere and tempted to compare the 2 on the same system for this thread. I am almost certain it would lose.
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The Noctua NF-F12 fans are designed differently then other fans, I was previously going to upgrade the stock corsair fans for the noctua ones to blow onto the Radiator, Stock fans blow out at a Cone like area, where as the Noctua Fans are designed for straight out air flow thats why it has all those groves etc. Which means it wont lose any cooling + it will be quieter. If you are gonna test, I suggest using the Noctua fans on the H100.

Noctua NF-F12 Review Corsair H100 including push pull - YouTube Good review.
 
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They are quieter... but I still like the coolermaster 4 in 1 pack (120mm) for $12. They work great for most situations
 
I was thinking of doing a double combo, 2 Noctua's with 2 Stock fans from corsair, lol see how that works out one set for pull or push.

Prob like Noc's for pushing the air into the radiator, then the stock corsairs for pulling haha, might speed up the noc's slow rpm a little haha
 
DTrick said:
The Noctua NF-F12 fans are designed differently then other fans, I was previously going to upgrade the stock corsair fans for the noctua ones to blow onto the Radiator, Stock fans blow out at a Cone like area, where as the Noctua Fans are designed for straight out air flow thats why it has all those groves etc. Which means it wont lose any cooling + it will be quieter. If you are gonna test, I suggest using the Noctua fans on the H100.

Noctua NF-F12 Review Corsair H100 including push pull - YouTube Good review.
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At the time I used 4x cougar vortex's that push alot more air than a nf-f12 but at a cost of noise and still didnt see a difference in temps between air/liquid. Only difference was the credit card bill with ($150 liquid kit+new fans), ($40 air).
 
Well, I'm not gonna argue i see the results compared to air with my build. I'll never ever go back. not to mention its much cleaner looking for me.
 
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The whole stock HD 4000 gfx running 10x bots is pretty crazy...
 
Not arguing just chatting/telling our stories and experiences with the h100 kit.
 
declensionsone said:
would an h100 even fit in this case? it has to be top mounted right? this case only has 1 fan slot on top.

Newegg.com - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan


I think i may just get a noctua NH-D14. I think air cooling is superior, the silverarrow beats the h60 and h80, but the nh-d14 beats the silverarrow
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Not a chance. I mean you could still use the h100 but with that case you will probably have to mount the rad on the outside. Even if you get the d14, you will never be able to use fans on that side vent unless you also mount them on the outside. That case is tiny. ;)
 
damn.. well that sucks. i got this case cus it was a combo with the psu. lol

the h80 is just as good as the h100, but I still feel paranoid when there's liquid around electronic parts.
 
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Ten bots? Holy crap. I'm running two and it barely leaves any CPU for me to play anything else. Could someone direct me to some optimization tips or something? I'm running D3 in the lowest resolution windowed mode and the smallest window, but I read on the tips that I should leave it at 60 background fps. Is there anything else I can do to increase my output? My machine specs are as follows...

intel quad core Q9550 @ 2.83 GHz
8 gigs of memory
Two video cards: Nvidia Geforce GTS 250

I realize my GPU and CPU are outdated, but if I were to upgrade a component, which would more important? Thanks!
 
Just got the corsair h100 n I'm pretty happy with it so far, it brought down the temps around 25c n that's only with 2 fans. I cnt fit 4fans on the radiator cuz I have literally no space left in my mid tower, I'm surprised I made it fit. In a couple of months I hope to buy a full tower cuz I'm sick of squeezing everything in a tiny case... Anyways do far I would recommend it
 
Champagne said:
Just got the corsair h100 n I'm pretty happy with it so far, it brought down the temps around 25c n that's only with 2 fans. I cnt fit 4fans on the radiator cuz I have literally no space left in my mid tower, I'm surprised I made it fit. In a couple of months I hope to buy a full tower cuz I'm sick of squeezing everything in a tiny case... Anyways do far I would recommend it
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Check out the NZXT Phantom, i really love the case its got good fans too quiet.
 
yea, running 10 with hellbuddy and Intel HD 4000. Sadly HB got shut down today.

I tried to run multiple diablo 3 with demonbuddy just now and found that there is just too much fps lag, I can barely run 2 clients (in vmware) with the cpu's graphic processor. why is that?

damnit.. guess I have to pick up a graphics card afterall


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i guess DB uses more resources, i got it working again by assigning 2 cores per VM
 
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DTrick said:
Check out the NZXT Phantom, i really love the case its got good fans too quiet.
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yeh someone alrdy suggested that case for me and it does look bad ass. definetly in my top 3right now
 
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