64-bit HB and new features also a thank you to the HB team!

[Cyanide]

With everything going on recently I thought I'd just put my two cents out here too. First of all, I do want to thank you Bossland and everyone who contributed to HB and making it such a great bot! Like many others, it renewed life back into WoW for me. And for that I thank you, regardless of what happens next.

Now! Onto what I personally would LOVE to see in the rebirth of HB.
1. 64-bit HB, let's be honest here - sure nobody knows exactly how or why Blizzard caught us (though everyone has their own ideas on it) but the truth of the matter is - it doesn't matter who thinks what, what does matter is we figure out how they actually caught us and learn from it and move on. PERSONALLY I believe that not being on 64-bit was a big red flag, it has nothing to do about performance or this or that. Who uses 32-bit anymore? Honestly does ANYONE? Any pc built in the past 5 years uses 64 bit. Hell right this second you can get a 64-bit w7 pc for LESS THAN $100 from big known companies (Walmart/Kmart/ect/ect) I know they're not that good... but... that right there just defeats the "Blah blah I have to buy a new pc" argument. This just all goes down to: staying under the radar. I don't have actual stats to prove this but I would be SHOCKED if more than 10% of the pop used 32-bit client. The whole "it would take too much time to have 32 and 64 bit hb argument I feel is invalid. Why? THERE IS NO NEED FOR 32 BIT! Steam Hardware & Software Survey steam survey showing %s of 32 and 64 bit OS's 64-bit users are at over 90% while 32 bit is at 10% and dropping. Tldr: don't make 32-bit hb anymore, just go to 64-bit. 32 is out of date. Let's just accept it and move on.

2. Afking bgs - I see posts time and time again about it but I really think the point needs to be addressed: >>>>>>>YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR BG BOT BASES!<<<<<<<<< Botting is about staying under the radar - but it's pretty hard to do that when you go into a wsg or ab and see 60% of your team running together as a bot train. Maybe even *NOOB AT CODING MIGHT NOT BE POSSIBLE* BUT have the bots talk to each other so that if they're in the same bg they will NEVER take the same path? Just an idea.

3. I'd LOVE to see a easier way to make scripts for things. BUILT INTO HB. Other no named competitors do this and I must say - I'd love to see it in hb too. You literally have everything pre-scripted for you. You just drag and drop what you want to do. Example: you need to make a script to go talk to this daily quest giver, pick up the quest and go collect six pieces of turtle meat... With the new system in place, you would just need to stand next to the quest giver, target him, and drag and drop the pre-made code to have the bot do what you want to do. *I'M NOT SURE IF WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO DO THIS ALREADY ON THE STORE* however - it could be built into hb and made EASIER to use for new people, I'm a vet at HB but a noob at coding.

4. Better store system, I'm not a millionaire! YES quality profile makers NEED to get paid - I agree 100% but there needs to be a better system in place to make sure people aren't selling 5 lines of code someone copy/pasted on a free profile for $100. Blah blah, yes you can get refunds if the profile turns out to be bad. But still.. I feel that my point is valid. There also just needs to be a different system in place - maybe a sub based ALTERNATIVE to of which if you are subbed you have access to whatever is on the store? Or you can have the sub system with a subscribe button to addons you want up to a max of say a certain point per month or something, just an idea!

Other than that I love HB and the community, I hope you come back from this and I will be supporting you if and when you do. If anyone else wants to do add anything they would like to see in the new HB feel free to post it.

 

[webhond]

5. serve me a beer once every 15 minutes so i dont have to walk to the fridge

6. empty my farm bottle since i dont want to go to the bathroom

7. give me a pat on the back every time i reach a 100 k gain in gold. and this needs to be in caps all over the screen.

 

[Taybox]

some amazing ideas here. especially the ez script builder.

 

[exdeus]

5. serve me a beer once every 15 minutes so i dont have to walk to the fridge

6. empty my farm bottle since i dont want to go to the bathroom

7. give me a pat on the back every time i reach a 100 k gain in gold. and this needs to be in caps all over the screen.

shut up ?

 

[Tarathiel2]

1. No. Just no.
2. Nobody's stopping you from coding your own BG botbase like Millz did, making it better and offering it for free.
3. Again, nobody's stopping you from writing a profile editor and offering it for free if XML is hard for you.
4. No.

 

[webhond]

shut up ?

no?

 

[Lars2222]

Any news about that little team there had a level 100 charecter in stormwind standing doing northing and still got banned, despite it has been never been using honorbuddy in action on that 1toon account, all they had was a honorbuddy turned on and a combat profil. Which indicate Blizzard has the violeted the uropean data protection directive. By placing some kind of spyware.

 

[webhond]

Any news about that little team there had a level 100 charecter in stormwind standing doing northing and still got banned, despite it has been never been using honorbuddy in action on that 1toon account, all they had was a honorbuddy turned on and a combat profil. Which indicate Blizzard has the violeted the uropean data protection directive. By placing some kind of spyware.

lolololol

wear that tinfoil hat before you say something like that plz.

 

[Cyanide]

1. No. Just no.
2. Nobody's stopping you from coding your own BG botbase like Millz did, making it better and offering it for free.
3. Again, nobody's stopping you from writing a profile editor and offering it for free if XML is hard for you.
4. No.

Sorry, but 32 bit is dying. so, yes. just yes.
2.I already said I've no clue as how to code at all, because I haven't tried learning it nor do I want to learn it. That's why people buy HB. if we all knew how to write our own scripts... why would we even need a bot? We wouldn't.. - I only offered ideas as to how to make it better. Instead of "Go make your own lolz"
3. Again, already said I don't know anything about coding. This is a suggestion to add it to the bot other competitors already do this and it actually works quite well - and before you even say just go use them instead, no. I'm here to offer ideas and try to help make HB better.
4. is already actually happening - sorta. From what I understand they will be capping prices to $30 in the store. So... yeah.

Negative people like you do nothing but hurt the community. Stuck in your old ways and un-willing to change... kinda like the us government lol. You should get a job as a politician! They'd love you.

 

[Tarathiel2]

Sorry, but 32 bit is dying. so, yes. just yes.
2.I already said I've no clue as how to code at all, because I haven't tried learning it nor do I want to learn it. That's why people buy HB. if we all knew how to write our own scripts... why would we even need a bot? We wouldn't.. - I only offered ideas as to how to make it better. Instead of "Go make your own lolz"
3. Again, already said I don't know anything about coding. This is a suggestion to add it to the bot other competitors already do this and it actually works quite well - and before you even say just go use them instead, no. I'm here to offer ideas and try to help make HB better.
4. is already actually happening - sorta. From what I understand they will be capping prices to $30 in the store. So... yeah.

Negative people like you do nothing but hurt the community. Stuck in your old ways and un-willing to change... kinda like the us government lol. You should get a job as a politician! They'd love you.

1. 64-bit offers zero advantages for bot software but it takes an enormous amount of work to convert, so no, 32-bit is staying.
2. ">>>>>>>YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR BG BOT BASES!<<<<<<<<<" is this a suggestion for you? I shudder to think what your demands sound like.
3. Waste of developer time and resources as XML "coding" is extremely easy. You could learn it in less than a hour if you bothered.
4. It's a free market, people are free to set their own prices for their work. You aren't forced to buy them.

Also you can take your ad hominem attacks and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

 

[ToxicTwist]

I must agree with you Cyanide. When people say there is only a small amount of people left on 32bit, i can assume also that it does infact raise a flag if you're using it and they see you doing whatever they found to ban us. For example, you use 32bit and they have people watching pathing or combat routines, or whatever they did. There is no harm in getting with the times and just upgrading to 64bit. Would be a step in the right direction to being safer.

I'm a little sad about my ban, but i knew it could happen. I just want this fabulous program back up and running, without it wow is just too grating. Big thanks to the team for a great thing they have here!

 

[Cyanide]

1. 64-bit offers zero advantages for bot software but it takes an enormous amount of work to convert, so no, 32-bit is staying.
2. ">>>>>>>YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR BG BOT BASES!<<<<<<<<<" is this a suggestion for you? I shudder to think what your demands sound like.
3. Waste of developer time and resources as XML "coding" is extremely easy. You could learn it in less than a hour if you bothered.
4. It's a free market, people are free to set their own prices for their work. You aren't forced to buy them.

Also you can take your ad hominem attacks and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

Steam Hardware & Software Survey math doesn't lie. look at steams survey.... whats the %s say? BARELY 10% of people still use 32 bit LOL this is actual hard proof that 32-bit is so dead the only people still using are botters. Math doesn't lie sorry guy.

 

[Tarathiel2]

Steam Hardware & Software Survey math doesn't lie. look at steams survey.... whats the %s say? BARELY 10% of people still use 32 bit LOL this is actual hard proof that 32-bit is so dead the only people still using are botters. Math doesn't lie sorry guy.

Are you trolling or do you have a reading comprehension problem? Nobody gives a shit about your statistics. "64-bit offers zero advantages for bot software but it takes an enormous amount of work to convert, so no, 32-bit is staying." Get it now?

 

[Cyanide]

Are you trolling or do you have a reading comprehension problem?

I'm starting to think you must be trolling tbh. Do you not understand math? Do you not understand that so little of people use 32-bit that it makes it easier for Blizzard to spot us? If we are the only ones using 32 bit (or damn near the only ones) you may as well hold up a huge "Ban me please!" sign everytime you start up wow.

 

[Tarathiel2]

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/215761-x64-2.html#post1960242

 

[Cyanide]

And? I've already seen that. Still doesn't change my view on 64-bit and a LOT of others. I just showed you steams survey, over 90%+ use 64-bit. wow auto uses 64 bit if your machine is 64 which means that the only people are using 32 bit wow are botters and a very small % of people who have 6+ year old machines.

 

[ToxicTwist]

I dunno how i feel about that. Pretty sure an advantage is blending in better with everyone else? Just a thought...

 

[namook]

1. 64-bit offers zero advantages for bot software but it takes an enormous amount of work to convert, so no, 32-bit is staying.

I disagree 64 bit has a lot of advantages just people are to ignorant to see that, you can look at this from a number of angles, the cheap easy and nasty way out is to support 32 bit, you have x amount of people still using 32 bit which are unable to use 64 bit, however if you do code 64 bit it has many advantages over 32 bit, one example is more people in the world do use 64 bit I think this will lead to an increase in sales even if you do lose the minority to 32 bit, charge everyone for 64 bit I am quite happy to support Bossland (profit) discounted prices for prior HB users, you can use Tmorph and turn into any character you want, want to play human but look like an orc morph away man also GM's won't really look at your account wondering why a 64 bit comp is running 32 bit, that's kinda an eye brow raiser right there.

 

[Cyanide]

Yeah, exactly namook. point is to blend into the bigger playerbase which is 64. instead of only 300-500 people using 32 bit (the ones gms look at for botting on say like illidan..) they have to look at the other 9500+ players playing that are on 64 client instead. makes it harder for them.

 

[namook]

Now my account is not banned but I would rather wait 6 months if that is what it takes to get 64 bit coded if that is what has to be done