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5 man dungeon gold farming runs! Whats your most effective gph?

nordrassil said:
got two groups, one where i queue balance druid up as healer, the other with retri paladin.
Singular has inbuilt settings for healers to dps when group members are above a certain hp %, and heal when they fall below it. Simple stuff to configure.



3 weeks and counting.
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3 weeks and counting?
Do you play all 10 toons on one PC? And how many hours/day do you bot them?
 
nordrassil said:
got two groups, one where i queue balance druid up as healer, the other with retri paladin.
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how is it going with retri? can he outheal your group or they run like 40-80% all the time? And is it a big differense in dps compared to balance druid?
 
Just made 100k yesterday using my max pull at 9 to test things out, died twice in 12 hours but still good
 
changing max pull in tank's HB doesnt change anything for me.. i put it on 10 but he pulls as always.
 
I also put it on hostile but I am not sure if that matters, it always pulls 2-3 packs and runs with them all until it reaches that max so it just aoes them down after, very quick, I was up to 840kills per hour roughly
 
can someone tell me what pvp gear should I buy for 3 BM hunters (5 mop heroics farm) haste or mastery?
and best talents for fast killing are 1/3/3/3/2/1?
and ofc what pet!?
soz for noob questions but I never ever played hunter, especially BM
 
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Akurias said:
changing max pull in tank's HB doesnt change anything for me.. i put it on 10 but he pulls as always.
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Singular always said:

[Singular] Pull More: will not pull additional mobs during Combat

Regardless if I chose Auto/Always or None/LikeCurrent/Hostile/All

Perhaps it is just a message and it'll actually do unlike what the message stated.
 
Angelus said:
Singular always said:

[Singular] Pull More: will not pull additional mobs during Combat

Regardless if I chose Auto/Always or None/LikeCurrent/Hostile/All

Perhaps it is just a message and it'll actually do unlike what the message stated.
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At least you get a message.. no matter what i change abt Pull More in Singular, it has no effect. I can set it onto 100 and shit and nothing happens. If ppl didnt mention it here i wouldnt even believe that this option works for those standard scripts in Dungeonbuddy. Too bad i cant code, i would create some tweaked profiles it could safe so much time and increase gph now with such a high item lvl.
 
I'm hoping there's still viability in running random MoP dungeon groups in WoD. I haven't quite decided on when/if I want to pull the trigger on purchasing 5 more WOD copies.
 
I am going to get 2 more 5 man teams soon. I've made 300$ us in 9 days of casual farming heroics
 
Astraithious said:
Just made 100k yesterday using my max pull at 9 to test things out, died twice in 12 hours but still good
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You're using Singular, running random heroics with default profiles and you managed to get the tank to pull more than just one pack at a time? Any chance you could share with us how you made that happen?
 
I just set pull more always on and it grabbed other packs. Is this not working for others?
 
Astraithious said:
I just set pull more always on and it grabbed other packs. Is this not working for others?
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I've seen a few people saying it works for them, but myself and quite a few others just cannot get this to work. Would you mind taking a pic of how all your settings are in Class config and Bot config? That would be a great help, because then I could at least make sure that all my settings are correct. Just remember to black out sensitive information.
 
Seriously i doubt that it even works for those who claim that it does. Maybe they believe it somehow but i am quite sure it doesnt. And it also makes sense because for grinding and stuff that option makes sense. But for those dungeon profiles they have fixed hotspots as far as i as noob know and so they will stop on each hotspot and kill enemies there instead of running further like we want them with the pull more option. So yeah i seriously doubt pull more works in dungeonbuddy.
I really wished someone good coder would have made a set of dungeon profiles tweaked for at least item lvl 496.. it could save so much time, give great gph and i would love to throw my money at that.
 
do you guys loot with the tank or a dps?

and are you using singular on all your classes? is it recommended?
 
[00:50:05.228 N] (Singular) (Singular) Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = 'Instances'

[00:49:44.398 N] (Singular) (Singular) Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = 'Instances'

Looks to be hard coded within Singular to disable the Pull More function within an instance. Perhaps someone could look into it or ask Bobby53 if it even would be a smart thing to change. Seeing how certain mechanics work in instances.

Code: 
 if (SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore == PullMoreUsageType.None)
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled by user configuration (use:{0}, target:{1}, count:{2}",
                    SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreTargetType,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreMobCount
                    );
            }
           [B] else if (SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore == PullMoreUsageType.Auto && !(SingularRoutine.IsGrindBotActive || SingularRoutine.IsQuestBotActive))
            {
                allow = false;
                BotBase b = SingularRoutine.GetCurrentBotBase();
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled because use:{0} and botbase:{1} in use",
                    SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore,
                    b == null ? "(null)" : b.Name
                    );
            }[/B]
            else if (SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreTargetType == PullMoreTargetType.None || SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreMobCount <= 1)
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled by user configuration (use:{0}, target:{1}, count:{2}",
                    SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreTargetType,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreMobCount
                    );                  
            }
          [B]  else if (SingularRoutine.CurrentWoWContext != WoWContext.Normal)
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = '{0}'", SingularRoutine.CurrentWoWContext);
            }[/B]
            else if (!SpellManager.HasSpell(needSpell))
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled for{0} characters until [{1}] is learned", TalentManager.CurrentSpec.ToString().CamelToSpaced(), needSpell);
            }

            return allow;
        }

The first bolded part shows that the AUTO pull more function only works with grind bot. (questbot doesn't seem to support Pull More with either "auto" or "always")

And the second bolded part shows that the pull more function automatically disables itself when singular detects it is running in an instance or BG. It doesn't matter if "always" or "auto" is used.

Unless I am mistaken, because I know jack about this.

Ok, I just tested the following:

Tank in party with 4 others, without queued for or joined an instance. Settings set to "always" and running dungeonbuddy at start-up

[01:24:41.603 N] [Singular] ... in a group as NONE role with 5 of 5 players
[01:24:41.980 N] [Singular] Pull More: will pull up to 9 from mob types=[All] within 35 yds during Combat

Tank in party with 4 others, joined an instance. Settings set to "always" and running dungeonbuddy at start-up

[01:28:05.609 N] (Singular) (Singular) Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = 'Instances'

So I am 51% certain that unless those people got drunk/high and changed the code in SingularRoutine.Behaviors without them remembering, they are trolling, mistaken or just mean people.
 
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Angelus said:
[00:50:05.228 N] (Singular) (Singular) Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = 'Instances'

[00:49:44.398 N] (Singular) (Singular) Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = 'Instances'

Looks to be hard coded within Singular to disable the Pull More function within an instance. Perhaps someone could look into it or ask Bobby53 if it even would be a smart thing to change. Seeing how certain mechanics work in instances.

Code: 
 if (SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore == PullMoreUsageType.None)
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled by user configuration (use:{0}, target:{1}, count:{2}",
                    SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreTargetType,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreMobCount
                    );
            }
           [B] else if (SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore == PullMoreUsageType.Auto && !(SingularRoutine.IsGrindBotActive || SingularRoutine.IsQuestBotActive))
            {
                allow = false;
                BotBase b = SingularRoutine.GetCurrentBotBase();
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled because use:{0} and botbase:{1} in use",
                    SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore,
                    b == null ? "(null)" : b.Name
                    );
            }[/B]
            else if (SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreTargetType == PullMoreTargetType.None || SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreMobCount <= 1)
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled by user configuration (use:{0}, target:{1}, count:{2}",
                    SingularSettings.Instance.UsePullMore,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreTargetType,
                    SingularSettings.Instance.PullMoreMobCount
                    );                  
            }
          [B]  else if (SingularRoutine.CurrentWoWContext != WoWContext.Normal)
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = '{0}'", SingularRoutine.CurrentWoWContext);
            }[/B]
            else if (!SpellManager.HasSpell(needSpell))
            {
                allow = false;
                Logger.WriteDiagnostic("Pull More: disabled for{0} characters until [{1}] is learned", TalentManager.CurrentSpec.ToString().CamelToSpaced(), needSpell);
            }

            return allow;
        }

The first bolded part shows that the AUTO pull more function only works with grind bot. (questbot doesn't seem to support Pull More with either "auto" or "always")

And the second bolded part shows that the pull more function automatically disables itself when singular detects it is running in an instance or BG. It doesn't matter if "always" or "auto" is used.

Unless I am mistaken, because I know jack about this.

Ok, I just tested the following:

Tank in party with 4 others, without queued for or joined an instance. Settings set to "always" and running dungeonbuddy at start-up

[01:24:41.603 N] [Singular] ... in a group as NONE role with 5 of 5 players
[01:24:41.980 N] [Singular] Pull More: will pull up to 9 from mob types=[All] within 35 yds during Combat

Tank in party with 4 others, joined an instance. Settings set to "always" and running dungeonbuddy at start-up

[01:28:05.609 N] (Singular) (Singular) Pull More: disabled automatically for Context = 'Instances'

So I am 51% certain that unless those people got drunk/high and changed the code in SingularRoutine.Behaviors without them remembering, they are trolling, mistaken or just mean people.
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I just tried changing the SingularRoutine.Behaviors code about Pull More in instances, setting "allow = true" instead of false in both relevant places. While the text in Honorbuddy reads "[Singular] Pull More: will pull up to 9 from mob types=[All] within 35 yds during Combat" in dungeons, the pull order stays the same.

I'm guessing this needs to be changed in the dungeon scripts for HB.


I wouldn't mind spending time tuning the dungeon scripts for bigger pulls, but I can't find any guides on how to go about doing it. My C# experience is zero to none, but I would be happy to try changing a few codes to allow for bigger pulls if anyone told me where any relative info can be found.
 
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Somehow i regret i didnt learn C#. I was abt to study or at least learn it by my own but well, single dad all the way - no time for that :D I'd also like to tweak those profiles for higher item levels so bigger pulls but yeah i dunno how. I took a look at the code, i mean i am not super dumb so i thought maybe ill find a way but nah..

I am still waiting for a response from "Astraithious" - he was one of those who claimed that this option works in Dungeonbuddy. He even told me to not talk abt exaggerated ppl when not knowing how to setup HB. Kinda funny now ;) Maybe they were stoned or something.
On the other hand i know that the question abt pull more got asked often the past days but i didnt see any developer who clearly said that it just doesnt work in instances, if that is really the case as Angelus said. This makes me sad as well.. why let ppl die dumb u knw.
And last but not least, i knw not everybody likes to share their work, some are even totally selfish, and of course alot share their stuff. But again i wonder why at this point there is nobody who at least for bucks did release a package of tweaked mop dungeon profiles.
 
Am i the only here that have problems with the bot getting stuck in shadow-pan mon, and then getting terminated by HBrelog (for inactivity)??
if yes, how did you guys get around it.. its quite retarded :(
 
I don't know much about it either. But it should be doable and I guess without too much work (for a exp coder). As I see lots of old lvl 80-85 dungeons being farmed really really fast, were its all about the path/pulling. Just look at all the profiles out there for those instances :).
 
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