12x Blood DK - Ultimate Legion Botting Project

[DocTalbuk]

How can ppl in the same guild who doesnt bot get hit by this? Doesnt make any sence?

Well this is whats happening.
Even my 1 account that started during the 1 day that HB was up but tripwire was still disabled after the second ban wave. That account survived, because it wasnt tied via. guild banks.
I am not alone with this pattern.

This strongly suggests that there is a new kind of banwave. Also note, that only the chars that signed charters were banned, while some other guild members werent.

 

[Druid07]

Well this is whats happening.
Even my 1 account that started during the 1 day that HB was up but tripwire was still disabled after the second ban wave. That account survived, because it wasnt tied via. guild banks.
I am not alone with this pattern.

This strongly suggests that there is a new kind of banwave. Also note, that only the chars that signed charters were banned, while some other guild members werent.

I've heard from an experienced chinese gold seller that signing your own chapters is a bad idea. Not sure how true, but a possibility.

 

[Anarki]

Wow imagine the crying if you can get people banned by paying them to sign your charter, lol.
Let's do this, we benefit from it since Blizzard will stop banning through guilds XD

 

[DocTalbuk]

Wow imagine the crying if you can get people banned by paying them to sign your charter, lol.
Let's do this, we benefit from it since Blizzard will stop banning through guilds XD

Lol i didnt even think of that. lots of trolling potential there

 

[Aion]

Wow imagine the crying if you can get people banned by paying them to sign your charter, lol.
Let's do this, we benefit from it since Blizzard will stop banning through guilds XD

Nah, Blizzard GMS are not emo kids, they use more sophisticated methods for flagging gold-trading characters, indeed

 

[DocTalbuk]

My legion bots are doing well, however I had a weird occurence yesterday.
I bought 10 battlechest accs and set them up with level 1 chars. Then I logged off. So I never attached HB to it, had them in guild banks or traded gold.
4 of them got AOE ban. super weird.
The only thing i did different this time was using a VPN, which may have been flagged.

 

[Aion]

My legion bots are doing well, however I had a weird occurence yesterday.
I bought 10 battlechest accs and set them up with level 1 chars. Then I logged off. So I never attached HB to it, had them in guild banks or traded gold.
4 of them got AOE ban. super weird.
The only thing i did different this time was using a VPN, which may have been flagged.

Good lesson!

Imagine, you have started to bot from minute one, then few hours ago they get this AoE ban, and "HB is detected again" would some people conclude

It is weird, but it is up to us (the community) to trial this out, at what number of bots per machine, Blizzard start to hard-flag accounts for AoE!

 

[pimpampum]

My legion bots are doing well, however I had a weird occurence yesterday.
I bought 10 battlechest accs and set them up with level 1 chars. Then I logged off. So I never attached HB to it, had them in guild banks or traded gold.
4 of them got AOE ban. super weird.
The only thing i did different this time was using a VPN, which may have been flagged.

Were they banned or preemptively locked?

When using flagged ips from vpns in the past, my accounts got insta-locked with a message saying "this account has been locked for suspicious activity". Or something along these lines.

Any appeal will get them unlocked, but they were getting marked. Never survived longer than a couple of weeks after that happened, so my guess is that they had been "marked for review".

This was a year or more ago, so they might have changed their methods. They did change their banning approach, so that wouldn't come as a surprise.


Honestly, VPN's were a lot of hassle, an added expense, and I couldn't materialize their advantages.


I am assumming that you did the usual steps in fingerprint-clearing your pcs and wow install; if not, yours could perfectly be a HWID ban, whatever Hw or combination of them they use to mark PC's.

After all, gold seller are their prime target now. It's all about the Bli$$.

 

[DocTalbuk]

Were they banned or preemptively locked?

When using flagged ip's from vpn in the past, mine got insta-locked with a message saying "this account has been locked for suspicious activity". Or something along these lines.

Any appeal will get them unbanned, but they will get marked. Never survived longer than a couple of weeks after that happened, so my guess is that they had been "marked for review".

This was a year or more ago, so they might have changed their methods. They did change their banning approach, so that wouldn't come as a surprise.


Honestly, VPN's were a lot of hassle, an added expense, and I couldn't materialize their advantages.


I am assumming that you did the usual steps in fingerprint-clearing your pcs and wow install; if not, yours could perfectly be a HWID ban, whatever Hw or combination of them they use to mark PC's.

After all, gold seller are their prime target now. It's all about the Bli$$.

No, I had them on a new pc, new wow install. So they couldnt have detected by digital fingerprinting, mac, or hwid.

 

[pimpampum]

No, I had them on a new pc, new wow install. So they couldnt have detected by digital fingerprinting, mac, or hwid.

well, that's useful. So it reduces the possibilities.

Did you check the VPN's log to make sure there wasn't a server issue and your original Ip got through? Without specific programs, that is bound to happen , and it's was lethal to the accounts when it happened.

 

[DocTalbuk]

well, that's useful. So it reduces the possibilities.

Did you check the VPN's log to make sure there wasn't a server issue and your original Ip got through? Without specific programs, that is bound to happen , and it's was lethal to the accounts when it happened.

I am thinkin the dedicated ip i used as vpn was blacklisted.

 

[pimpampum]

I am thinkin the dedicated ip i used as vpn was blacklisted.

Yeah, that can also be. I frequently saw Dedicated IP's sold as "never before used" listed up in common blacklist checks.

Which is quite disgusting when they have been sold as "new" ones.

 

[DocTalbuk]

Yeah, that can also be. I frequently saw Dedicated IP's sold as "never before used" listed up in common blacklist checks.

Which is quite disgusting when they have been sold as "new" ones.

yeah thats despicable.
As long as blizz doesnt ip ban, i dont see any purpose in using vpns atm.
being banned of vpn is much more likely.

btw all the remaining bchest bots on that pc using that vpn have been banned an hour ago. So lost 10 bchest accounts since yesterday which sucks. At least i always have my legions.

 

[Lapeda]

yeah thats despicable.
As long as blizz doesnt ip ban, i dont see any purpose in using vpns atm.
being banned of vpn is much more likely.

btw all the remaining bchest bots on that pc using that vpn have been banned an hour ago. So lost 10 bchest accounts since yesterday which sucks. At least i always have my legions.

10 bchests lost? that sucks. Why do you think they have been banned? Must have been due to some kind of flag.

 

[Aion]

yeah thats despicable.
As long as blizz doesnt ip ban, i dont see any purpose in using vpns atm.
being banned of vpn is much more likely.

btw all the remaining bchest bots on that pc using that vpn have been banned an hour ago. So lost 10 bchest accounts since yesterday which sucks. At least i always have my legions.

You can try purchase less popular (and probably cheaper) VPN services, does not need to be dedicated even, that way I assume, the chances for flag are lower?

Another issue could be the sole running of 10 bots on same IP-address.

Keep in mind, initially, Blizz "have no idea" if those would be bots or not, aka they still have not enough account history to stack other flags to their records, but logging 10 fresh accounts from same IP/machine is sole flag too.

It should make sense to have them all sharing 1-2 battle.net addresses too, to stay lower (as all multiboxers do). Having dedicated battle.net for each sounds worse option.

 

[dzipal]

hey Doc, was wondering, what is "safe" daily amount of herbs to put to AH?
Are you doing sales with bot itself or create aditional 1 lvl's to do the dirty work?
As i assume u are selling herbs that way?

 

[DocTalbuk]

hey Doc, was wondering, what is "safe" daily amount of herbs to put to AH?
Are you doing sales with bot itself or create aditional 1 lvl's to do the dirty work?
As i assume u are selling herbs that way?

That depends. Check undermine journal.
For fjarn its usually like 3000 for low pop andd 5000 for highpop servers.

I never post more than 2000, because its easy for me to make new level 1 chars.
I just create them, then invite them into guild and then quest bot will take care of running into the city, withdraw 100 gold and herbs from guildbank and then run to AH to post. I have to click post manually tho, which I prefer because I can take a quick look at the prices before.

 

[DocTalbuk]

You can try purchase less popular (and probably cheaper) VPN services, does not need to be dedicated even, that way I assume, the chances for flag are lower?

Another issue could be the sole running of 10 bots on same IP-address.

Keep in mind, initially, Blizz "have no idea" if those would be bots or not, aka they still have not enough account history to stack other flags to their records, but logging 10 fresh accounts from same IP/machine is sole flag too.

It should make sense to have them all sharing 1-2 battle.net addresses too, to stay lower (as all multiboxers do). Having dedicated battle.net for each sounds worse option.

yes very true

 

[kecoa]

how many account you bot in the same computer now? seems you bought a new coputer.
i bot 3 account in 1 computer, a bit afraid to do more

 

[DocTalbuk]

how many account you bot in the same computer now? seems you bought a new coputer.
i bot 3 account in 1 computer, a bit afraid to do more

no ive had this pc in the while.
I am not limited by computer power.

Running many accs on 1 pc does not seem like a major safety concerns judging by the banning patterns in the last months.