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Relogger or No Relogger?

Banned? Did you use a Relogger?

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  • Did not use Relogger

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bizzy1one

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May be tinfoil but personal experience thus far seems enough to ask questions, and information never hurts.

Dont really care what kind or who made it. I think it has to do with how it logs in as all 3 of the last banwaves happened very similar. small update and bans after logins.
 
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Bans after logins ...the fuck are you talking about?
 
Bans after logins ...the fuck are you talking about?

there were updates where servers went down and right after logins there were bans. or atleast thats what has happened to me twice now and some others ive read. so its a pretty simple question to get a pretty simple answer. might have nothing to do with anything but its worth atleast asking.

i know you are a pecimist, and have gave up for the time being. im pretty sure everyone knows you have, but there's still money in it (lots of it), and if asking questions like this helps get another week out of bots then im all for it. having a community like this to be able to bring tons of info together so you're not all on your own is a big advantage. not sure why people poke at guys that try.

you were a semi-big player, why not give some imput instead of a trash post? your pecimism is a waste, 300-400% roi in 2 weeks is not a dead game, nor will it be any time soon. its not as good as it was, but more than likely nothing will be either.

it will continue on for the foreseable future with highs and lows. 1.7 should bring a decent bump in everything and end of quarter will have something i can almost guarantee.

you have a lot of experience and knowledge but you choose to troll rather than be constructive. we need to work on that.
 
400% roi in 2 weeks is abit far fetched ... Taken 2 weeks to get cost of game back. You factoring in things like electric in your generous calculations?
 
400% roi in 2 weeks is abit far fetched ... Taken 2 weeks to get cost of game back. You factoring in things like electric in your generous calculations?

im not sure how you'd expect to calculate electricity on 2 computers that run reguardless of bots or not. its a difference of maybe $20-30 a month id guess max as its always around $150-200 for my house. either way thats nothing when dealing in hundreds.

here's my basic breakdown (believe it or not is up to you).

16x d3 via newegg ($35) = $560
db keys i dont count in running cost as they get reused same as computer.

so $560 + ($30 / 2 half month of elec = $15) = $575.00 USD.

I leveled dec 26-28 16x to lvl 60 and spent around 20m on twink gear (20x 0.18 = $3.60) + 575 = 578.60

lvl 60 farm gear was 35m~ per client 16x35m = 560m x 0.18 = $100.80 + 578.60 = 679.40

at this point in time i have grossed $2,013 (i keep running total). i have 18 rmah auctions still up at around $ 500 total assuming that sells at 50% it is $2,263. i have mules filled with 500k-1m items and i have 3.1b gold still liquid for pvp patch. 3.1b gold @ 0.18 is $558.00 + 2263.00 is $2,821.00.

i still have 16 sets of mf gear that i muled after hitting mf cap with paragon so all that money is saved. $50~ ish but we wont even count that.
2 accounts didnt get banned but we will assume they did thats another $70.00 but dont count that.
and assuming i sell the 3+bil gold @ 0.25 and it not go up or not flip items.
and we wont count all the junk 500k-1m items on mules that will gear the next set.

so... $2,821.00 - $679.00 is $2,142.00 pure profit in 2 weeks on 16 clients.

dec 29 - jan 8 was 11 days of botting for a gross of $16.00 per day per bot or $12.00 per bot net profit per day.

my tracking seems legit to me, and the math looks right to me. did i miss something?

cause from my point of view all the naysayers are either doing it wrong or want to spread misinformation.

i run good bots with good settings. all run at 10+ tps and 14-15+ fps steady with very little lag. i wanted to run more on each machine but the performance hurts productivity. i asked a lot of questions about how to maximize usage and finally just settled for running them the way i do. i didnt make money with dumb 5 tps bots even if i ran 50% more, it just caused more work.

i auction twice a day every day and know prices of items. i think this is 1 of the most important steps.

so i think my generous calculations are fairly accurate or are they not? ive done it 3 times now with the same numbers every time. and since we are counting pennies, i only got to run 11 days and not the full 14 (2 weeks).

next setup im looking at 2 more i7 3770k's to push 12 per for a total of 40. i guess power would come into play somewhat at that point but i still think it will be very minimal.

most people wouldnt even post this info, but the guy a month ago that posted some info on the 100+ farm inspired me to go bigger. he went mass bots with lower output and productivity but made up with shear bulk. i went the other way and seems it works out also.

p.s. id pay double cost of db keys if they could give me a month again =x.
 
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Not this "relogger or no" shit again. Stop with the damned polls.
 
Thanks blista for your input.

It does look like it was pointless, but it was still worth asking.

back to counting.
 
relogger causes bans? lol i think blizz more concerned about um.... running fuckin DB ???? no hope for humanity..
 
Never used a relogger, so I don't have much say, but would the relogger attempt to continuously login during the down time of the servers?
 
relogger causes bans? lol i think blizz more concerned about um.... running fuckin DB ???? no hope for humanity..

yep. no way with all the "work" on the login servers that they have something in place to monitor login stats. i.e. imputting username/pass at 50ms everytime which is like a mil wpm typing. even if you copy paste you wouldnt hit enter the same time everytime and more than likely not sub 100ms after last key.

or how bout the fact that db only runs pre char screen at login when you use a relogger? if you do it manually you dont open db until logged into char screen.

yep, no hope for humanity at all. its eat up with closed minded smartasses.
 
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Since you took some time now to explain your thoughts, I will share mine. I've been banned both with and without a relogger. If you do some datamining on ban-reports from time to time you will see that alot of people get hit, alot of casuals as well - no matter if they were using a relogger or not. Well, you can just check your poll now and see for yourself.

DB probably has hundreds of flaws that will make it obvious to blizzard that it's a bot. I'm not confident about DB at the moment. After the december-desaster nothing really happened, (no visible) developement of the bot but a new looting-system was announced (I don't like the idea of "loot-scoring", giles tried it and it horribly failed so I don't get why developement time gets wasted on this). Giles now has some kind of pickit included and that's all we could ever ask for imo.

I'm not a pessimist - while I have stopped for now I will surely continue at some point. I have rebought D3-keys and am now waiting for the ideal time to restart. With the recent bans its only been 21 days between "banwaves". By the way: have you been affected yesterday or the day before?

Also some people claim to have only been using DB for a few hours and still got banned which is really strange. I was using a 12-hour shift system on my bots for a few month and never got banned wiith this until december 18th. Even one of my mains which I only ran DB on for about 5 hours while developing a plugin got hit (was able to recover it though). The way they are banning now has changed for sure. I agree that you have shared some information that most of the people who make good money with this game wouldnt. Hell, I bet there are tons of really nice plugins/programs/profiles which are developed privately and not shared. Also false information is spread for sure. This forum is full of people who can't be arsed to take one or two minutes of time to put into their posts, why would anyone would like to share their personal work/ gathered informations and on the other hand create competition doing this.

PS: I probably won't even remember you when I will read a post of yours in another thread. You need an avatar or you will go down in the big mass of one-liner "GIB FREE PLXX??" posters - that's why I reacted so harsh on your two-liner OP. But that's probably because I'm stoned as shit right now.
 
Since you took some time now to explain your thoughts, I will share mine. I've been banned both with and without a relogger. If you do some datamining on ban-reports from time to time you will see that alot of people get hit, alot of casuals as well - no matter if they were using a relogger or not. Well, you can just check your poll now and see for yourself.

DB probably has hundreds of flaws that will make it obvious to blizzard that it's a bot. I'm not confident about DB at the moment. After the december-desaster nothing really happened, (no visible) developement of the bot but a new looting-system was announced (I don't like the idea of "loot-scoring", giles tried it and it horribly failed so I don't get why developement time gets wasted on this). Giles now has some kind of pickit included and that's all we could ever ask for imo.

I'm not a pessimist - while I have stopped for now I will surely continue at some point. I have rebought D3-keys and am now waiting for the ideal time to restart. With the recent bans its only been 21 days between "banwaves". By the way: have you been affected yesterday or the day before?

Also some people claim to have only been using DB for a few hours and still got banned which is really strange. I was using a 12-hour shift system on my bots for a few month and never got banned wiith this until december 18th. Even one of my mains which I only ran DB on for about 5 hours while developing a plugin got hit (was able to recover it though). The way they are banning now has changed for sure. I agree that you have shared some information that most of the people who make good money with this game wouldnt. Hell, I bet there are tons of really nice plugins/programs/profiles which are developed privately and not shared. Also false information is spread for sure. This forum is full of people who can't be arsed to take one or two minutes of time to put into their posts, why would anyone would like to share their personal work/ gathered informations and on the other hand create competition doing this.

PS: I probably won't even remember you when I will read a post of yours in another thread. You need an avatar or you will go down in the big mass of one-liner "GIB FREE PLXX??" posters - that's why I reacted so harsh on your two-liner OP. But that's probably because I'm stoned as shit right now.

Excellent post. Thank you.

I rebought keys yesterday and will start up again this comming wed. I lost 14/18 on the 8th. (2 mules safe and 2 bots safe).

No idea why the 2 bots got a pass but am still running them as they are useless to me as possible flags. same everything. 1 on each botting comp. 1 para 97 and 1 para 87. 14 others rip.

I dont know if blizz is trying to clean house before pvp or if they are just adamant about bans now. Either way it makes it a lot harder to make judgement calls in the way of moving forward. I'll keep pushing what i have atm without much worry as my setup has been breaking even in under a week, but if it gets much worse ill have to rethink things.

It has slowed me down on upsizing. Have comp parts in shopping carts for 2 weeks now and just couldnt pull the trigger. Maybe it was a good thing i didnt, or maybe it will be lost profit on next round. Hard to know, otherwise id be rich.

I dont expect to figure out how some people get banned or solve a problem by myself, but maybe some idea in a thread like this catches a devs eye and it leads them to something. If there's thousands of people on this forum asking dumb questions, sooner or later 1 of the questions will lead to something that helps.

I'm expecting fireworks next tuesday as well. Hopefully it doesnt happen.

p.s. there is an invisible wall in core of arreat halfway down before map breaks right. its been there for a good while but never thought anything of it until these recent "invisible" posts. maybe that was put in for core farmers or something back in the day.
 
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