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ShamWOW for HB2 - An Enhance/Elemental/Resto + PVP/RaF Healbot by Bobby53

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What bot-setup should I use when I want my resto shaman with the ShamWOW CC to simply follow me around and heal/dispel me wherever I go on my main, manually played character? Ideally I?d want it to follow and heal me in arenas and BGs too.
 
If you're worried about the not so bright ones only looking at HPS and not effective healing... setting your presets extremely high might be your best option. Technically, it's working as intended (if not better than intended). The point of this CC is to heal people, not to overheal people. Unfortunately in raids people think HPS is all that matters. "Look how many times I can cast my AoE heals! I'M THE BEST HEALER EVER!"

You'll have such a small amount of overhealing it's ridiculous. The amount of true effective healing this bot does can't be touched by most, if any one. Wish Recount would default the "Healing done" to "Effective healing done"
 
wait so recount takes into account overhealing? i was sure it didnt wich meant that the bot was doing nearly nothing lol.

and thats why i said it was working as intented but i would like to bot to do healing rain a little more often and whatnot. because other healers seem to heal ppl as im casting a heal wich in turns makes the bot cancel the cast, but then the same person gets damaged as i cancel the cast so he starts casting again.... anyways im not sure if you understand what i mean but ill try it in 10 man raids and see how it does.

is this good enough for regular dragon soul with ilvl 380 healing gear?
 
Good morning bobby, yesterday I tried to heal raid finder dragon soul and pulled a mediocre 6k hps. My character is decked in heroic firelands gear. Im using the raid healing preset and I noticed what the problem is, since theres 6 healers more often than not one of them will heal my target and shamwow will cancel his cast because target reached 93% health. Now thats fine in 5 mans where im the only healer but in 25 man last night I had to play manually and got 28k hps on madness of deathwing spamming chain heal so 6-10k is rather weak. Is there a setting we can change so it heals more. Mana isnt an issue as im ilvl 390pve and I have a ton of mana regen.
And theres no point in posting a log because its a feature working as intented. Im just wondering if theres some settings ud suggest. Maybe include a mad healing preset next release haha.
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punisher775, I would view it more as you ending up in a good group, but to each his own. There is no purpose in overhealing, so the issue isn't cancelling heals in progress that aren't needed (which a pro healer does.) It's that other healers beat you to the heals because of anticipating the need. A few quick observations:
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1. There is never a situation where a log isn't needed. In this case, I would be able to see what settings you had in use along with other pertinent information. As it stands, I can only provide advice which you may have already taken. That just ends up wasting your time and mine.

2. Mana regen to Shaman is like money to Gordon Gecko... You can never have enough

3. If the most damaged player has already been healed, there is little point in healing more.

4. Spamming Chain Heal will overheal, but you will also be sniping heals from others since you are casting a heal when it isn't needed.

5. The problem isn't cancelling a heal that isn't needed. The problem is that it didn't begin casting a heal when it wasn't needed, hence 5 other healers had a chance to snipe the heal from you.

6. ShamWOW is reactionary. It does not cast anticipatory heals which I hope a skilled player would.

7. I'll look at possible alternatives for the future, but it's not a high priority compared to some other needs at the moment.

I don't know what settings you had in use (oh were there a log file attached.) Go to the Group Healing tab of the Class Options and do the following:
a. Click the Raid Healing presets button.
b. Enable Heal Pets
c. Change Healing Wave to 97%
d. Change Chain Heal to 96%
e. Do not change anything else

You will now cast more heals and sooner, as well as overheal more (thus burning through more mana than you should.)

wait so recount takes into account overhealing? i was sure it didnt wich meant that the bot was doing nearly nothing lol.

and thats why i said it was working as intented but i would like to bot to do healing rain a little more often and whatnot. because other healers seem to heal ppl as im casting a heal wich in turns makes the bot cancel the cast, but then the same person gets damaged as i cancel the cast so he starts casting again.... anyways im not sure if you understand what i mean but ill try it in 10 man raids and see how it does.

is this good enough for regular dragon soul with ilvl 380 healing gear?
There is a healing rain preset button. If you use that, make sure you have specced your character appropriately as it requires a different build to use successfully.

Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

If you're worried about the not so bright ones only looking at HPS and not effective healing... setting your presets extremely high might be your best option. Technically, it's working as intended (if not better than intended). The point of this CC is to heal people, not to overheal people. Unfortunately in raids people think HPS is all that matters. "Look how many times I can cast my AoE heals! I'M THE BEST HEALER EVER!"

You'll have such a small amount of overhealing it's ridiculous. The amount of true effective healing this bot does can't be touched by most, if any one. Wish Recount would default the "Healing done" to "Effective healing done"
Obliv, Absolutely correct. Thanks for your contribution. Bobby53
 
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Actually, that was wrong... Recount does only look at effective healing. My bad.

However, it still doesn't mean much other than you're casting AoE often. The problem being you have 6 healers in LFR. If 3 of those healers precast AoE spells there's no reason for the other healers to do anything but focus the tanks. LFR is just a huge AOE fest. I can normally be one of the top in healing in LFR with a 380 shaman. However, if I get a few healers that are AoE heavy... I'm much lower on the chart.

In all honesty, in LFR if you want to top the healing meters... you could probably turn everything off but Chain Heal and Healing Rain and heal the Raid Only. ** Has not been tested don't blame me if it doesn't work :)
 
Hey Bobby. Decided to roll a Shaman a few weeks back, and now that I'm 85, and used your CC to procure myself a full set of season 11 pvp gear as resto in the Battlegrounds, I decided to give it a go in the Dragon Soul LFR tool today... Worked great, except one issue I noticed.. After Ultraxion, while fighting Warmaster Blackhorn, it kept trying to cast Riptide on someone who I believe was dead at the time, and basically just sat there with the cursor "highlighted" as if it were waiting for me to select a valid target. Anyways, the entire log is included. Thanks for the great work you put into ShamWOW, its hands down the best CC available for any class.

HonorBuddy Mode: LazyRaider
Shamans Location: Dragon Soul 25 man LFR
What should have happened (be specific): Should have casted Riptide on the intended target.
What did happen (be specific): It did not cast Riptide on the target, instead just sat there with the cursor "highlighted".
Computer time of problem
(local time, not realm time)
: [5:03:52 PM:095]


Any other info you need, just ask and I'll do my best to get you anything that helps.
 

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Hey Bobby. Decided to roll a Shaman a few weeks back, and now that I'm 85, and used your CC to procure myself a full set of season 11 pvp gear as resto in the Battlegrounds, I decided to give it a go in the Dragon Soul LFR tool today... Worked great, except one issue I noticed.. After Ultraxion, while fighting Warmaster Blackhorn, it kept trying to cast Riptide on someone who I believe was dead at the time, and basically just sat there with the cursor "highlighted" as if it were waiting for me to select a valid target. Anyways, the entire log is included. Thanks for the great work you put into ShamWOW, its hands down the best CC available for any class.

HonorBuddy Mode: LazyRaider
Shamans Location: Dragon Soul 25 man LFR
What should have happened (be specific): Should have casted Riptide on the intended target.
What did happen (be specific): It did not cast Riptide on the target, instead just sat there with the cursor "highlighted".
Computer time of problem
(local time, not realm time)
: [5:03:52 PM:095]


Any other info you need, just ask and I'll do my best to get you anything that helps.
likwid, Thanks for the excellent post! I will look into this further tomorrow as I am travelling at the moment. In the meantime if you encounter that situation, you can currently workaround by pressing the ESC key. Hopefully I can gain some additional insight from your observations and the log file and get it resovled. Thanks again and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
 
Bobby,
About the post by Likwid,

I believe that CurrentPendingSpell is not working correctly, or something along that nature.

I'm sure you already know what to look at, but I remember CnG saying something about that call being broken.

Btw will be leveling a shaman in a few days, and look forward to the Amazing that is Shamwow.
-Panda
 
Oh, something I forgot to mention in my previous post.. After I noticed the unwanted behavior happening, I opened the LazyRaider settings and checked the first tick box, I forget what it says verbatim but it's something along the lines of "No Leader". And that seemed to clear up the issue - either that, or maybe the issue just didn't come up again coincidentally. I'll run a few heroics and LFR again tomorrow Bobby and let you know what I come up with. Thanks again..
 
Bobby,
About the post by Likwid,

I believe that CurrentPendingSpell is not working correctly, or something along that nature.

I'm sure you already know what to look at, but I remember CnG saying something about that call being broken.

Btw will be leveling a shaman in a few days, and look forward to the Amazing that is Shamwow.
-Panda
Thanks no1knowsy
 
Oh, something I forgot to mention in my previous post.. After I noticed the unwanted behavior happening, I opened the LazyRaider settings and checked the first tick box, I forget what it says verbatim but it's something along the lines of "No Leader". And that seemed to clear up the issue - either that, or maybe the issue just didn't come up again coincidentally. I'll run a few heroics and LFR again tomorrow Bobby and let you know what I come up with. Thanks again..
Thanks for passing along. I don't see it very frequently, so when it doesn't appear my assumption is that just hasn't encountered the event that triggers it more than a combination of settings or situations where it won't occur. I'll spend extra time looking at the impact of "No Leader" upon the healing code flow since its possible. Thanks for passing along, Bobby53
 
Hi. I'm experiencing an issue where the bot begins to pull and it spams searing totem from 3 to 15 times before it begins to cast anything. This happens quite often. I started the toon from level 1 and it is now level 25 wearing no boa's. Works amazing. This happens alot but one time I could estimate the occurrence would be 12:20AM.

https://rapidshare.com/files/1137182976/12-21-2011_6_27_PM_2960_Log.rar
Paragon, Thanks for the post and the detail and my apologies for the issue. Unfortunately I dont access any 3rd party links. The forum software in use (at least in the past) does not accept .RAR files so you may need to recompress as .ZIP before attaching if the file is too large. See the ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] if you have any questions on the steps. I'll keep an eye out for your post and look into it once the log is updated. Thanks and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
 
Paragon, Thanks for the post and the detail and my apologies for the issue. Unfortunately I dont access any 3rd party links. The forum software in use (at least in the past) does not accept .RAR files so you may need to recompress as .ZIP before attaching if the file is too large. See the ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] if you have any questions on the steps. I'll keep an eye out for your post and look into it once the log is updated. Thanks and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

Sorry about that. Here is a zip file compressed. Never new text compressed so well. :D

View attachment 12-21-2011_6_27 PM 2960 Log.zip
 
I've also noticed that it holds on to MW5 stacks for too long and just keeps doing the normal enhancement rotation without casting any CL/LB and consuming MW5
 
I've also noticed that it holds on to MW5 stacks for too long and just keeps doing the normal enhancement rotation without casting any CL/LB and consuming MW5
Would love to see it do more Chain Lightnings for trash, is there something I can modify?
MJAlfoudari, My apologies for your issues, but the description doesn't match the result of my testing. See instructions on how to post an issue, question, or constructive criticism in item #1 of the ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE]. You will want to follow those steps for any post you would like me to look into further on your behalf. Thanks and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53
 
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Sorry about that. Here is a zip file compressed. Never new text compressed so well. :D

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Paragon, You are using an old version of ShamWOW which is still being bundled with HB distributions:

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[6:28:15 PM:278] Chose ShamWOW v[B]4.3.15[/B] by Bobby53 as your combat class!
Upgrade to the current version 4.5.10 downloaded from the first post in this thread. There has been a lot of change (both fixes and enhancements) since then that you can read about in the Change History. Thanks, Bobby53
 
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Paragon, You are using an old version of ShamWOW which is still being bundled with HB distributions:

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[6:28:15 PM:278] Chose ShamWOW v[B]4.3.15[/B] by Bobby53 as your combat class!
Upgrade to the current version 4.5.10 downloaded from the first post in this thread. There has been a lot of change (both fixes and enhancements) since then that you can read about in the Change History. Thanks, Bobby53

:O Thanks for pointing that out. I guess when I seen the shamwow CC folder in the CC directory I thought I had already installed it haha. I had it in my download folder. :D Thanks again!
 
Hey Bobby, just an idea. I've noticed that when my shaman has 3-4 mobs on him it just does the normal single target rotation.
Wouldn't be better, in a 3+ mob scenario, to spam chain lightning since they removed the cooldown?

I haven't manually tried it, or read any theorycrafting about it, just thinking out loud :).
 
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