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Phelon's Playground - Support Thread

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Oldgamer said:
Seems with the new UI for Trinity is garbage. Set to not pick up crafting mats and it does plus this shoot move shit is getting really old...such a waste of time when no monsters in area...how dumb. Quest Tools set to level lowest gems but do you think it does....NOT. and the bot runs back to the start of a level alot of the times (not sure which one is at fault) but this is so bad now had to lower Grifts to 72....what a joke and now its only a 60% to complete...when i was running 74 Grifts and getting 70% completes and 73 Grifts where 98% to complete but now im over 2K paragon...so 75+ is where bot should be. Need an update to bot soooooooo...... bad
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What? Anyone want to put this into English for me? Or explain how it has anything to do with this section?
 
Oldgamer said:
Seems with the new UI for Trinity is garbage. Set to not pick up crafting mats and it does plus this shoot move shit is getting really old...such a waste of time when no monsters in area...how dumb. Quest Tools set to level lowest gems but do you think it does....NOT. and the bot runs back to the start of a level alot of the times (not sure which one is at fault) but this is so bad now had to lower Grifts to 72....what a joke and now its only a 60% to complete...when i was running 74 Grifts and getting 70% completes and 73 Grifts where 98% to complete but now im over 2K paragon...so 75+ is where bot should be. Need an update to bot soooooooo...... bad
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Why are you using QuestTools?! You realise that this is a thread for a very particular, and as of right now small, part of Trinity? A part that is also in beta and only supports very specific builds? I think you are in the wrong place.
 
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Powered said:
In your experience, is the 8s belt syncing well with "align potion with bombardment" ticked and increasing your clear speeds? I have some near perfect 6s belts and was wondering if it would be worth the switch to a non perfect 8s belt.
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Let me explain in this way

If you
1. Can kill an elite by steed charge or thorn damage triggered by mobs (T10) -> 6 secs better
-- besides, you barely lose health in T10 to trigger potion drink
2. Can kill an elite by active bombardment in one shot (GRift 75-) -> 6 secs better
3. Can take 65% health of an elite by active bombardment in one shot -> 8 secs better
-- with aligned passive bombardment's help, you can save 12-16 secs for each elite

in higher level of GRift, unaligned passive bombardment may be a worse option than string of ears/cord of the sherma

about the synchronization,
i use my own implementation by modify HandleTarget.cs since 2.4 (may be the same as current impl.),
clear GRift 81 (avg 13 mins) for 2.4, GRift 85 (avg 13 mins) for 2.4.1
 
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So essentially all I have to do to activate this for my LoN sader is to keep everything in my trinity settings the same but just to check the box that says Enable Beta Playground and it will override all of my combat settings?
 
TreeRex said:
So essentially all I have to do to activate this for my LoN sader is to keep everything in my trinity settings the same but just to check the box that says Enable Beta Playground and it will override all of my combat settings?
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Yup.
 
Is there a way by chance you could post full settings you use for your 4 man team?
 
Phelon said:
I actually figured out a way to do it. I was just holding off cause of bans.
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Lets make sure that we are on the same page
in order to perform 3 secs build
the following issues need to be solved


  1. keep firebird 6 pieces buff permanently
    1. activate permanent DoT (fire symbol on top of their head) on single champion elite (blue) outside of GRift, and leave at least one champion unburned
      NOTE: at least one champion pack can be found in location of Heart of the Damned(Azmodan)
    2. can not activate permanent DoT on any elite/boss inside GRift
    3. elite/boss can only be killed by 3 secs DoT
  2. 3 secs DoT (body on fire for 3 secs), each mob can be fire damaged once in 3 secs (including explosion when archon transform, meteor from firebird 2 pieces bonus)
  3. if boss has been activated permanent DoT, then restart new game
  4. power shrine might get you exceeded max damage while all buffs is up (double archon stacks + 50 stacks of firebird 6 pcs) and result in unable to activate 3 secs DoT (body on fire)
  5. archon stacks setting, due to 3 secs DoT activation is bound to a maximum damage (as C) and its depends on character's stats, unless bot can do the precise calculation for how many archon stacks that bot can up to (means kill mobs) otherwise this should leave to user decide

someone says
C = 2^32 * 1.5
total damage increment =
21 (50 stacks of firebird 6 pcs) * 5.2 (70 stacks of archon) * 5.2 (70 stacks of archon from swami) * 1.3 (archon) * 1.5 (improved archon) *
1.6 (fire damage, amulet + bracer + orb) * 1.85 (elite damage, bane of powerful + diamond + furnace) * 1.3 (audacity) * 1.2 (bane of powerful) = 5113 fold

archon skill 1 = 604% weapon damage

assure that
aether walker damage upper bound = 2000
orb upper bound = 500

then expected intelligence = 6,442,450,944 / 5113 / 6.04 / 2500 * 100 = 8344
 
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I understand how it works, just not sure it is worth it for a 1 off. My thoughts was to spec anything but fire.. then use Fire Arcane Torrent and just ignite that one mob. Then you never use Arcane Torrent again and use non fire skills for the rest of the map. I probably won't support it after thinking about it last night. It isn't worth the extra work.
 
Phelon said:
I honestly think a 6s would be far better than an 8. You get 10 per minute with 6s vs 7 per minute with 8s. That is 3 bombardments you will miss out on. Plus if you have to use a potion if screws it all up. Just keep the 6s belt.
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You forget Iron Skin have to cast w/ physical damage every 16s.

8s belt can match 3 times with iron skin in 48s,but 6s only 2 times. it is (1200% x 12s+100% x 12s) vs (1200% x 8s + 100% x 24s) = 15600%(8s belt) vs 12000%(6s belt) thorn damage in 48s.

So it's 30% more damage with 8s belt.
 
vincent323 said:
You forget Iron Skin have to cast w/ physical damage every 16s.

8s belt can match 3 times with iron skin in 48s,but 6s only 2 times. it is (1200% x 12s+100% x 12s) vs (1200% x 8s + 100% x 24s) = 15600%(8s belt) vs 12000%(6s belt) thorn damage in 48s.

So it's 30% more damage with 8s belt.
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Hmmm. Well, then I will add it later today.
 
Im running a 4 man setup.
Archon DPS Wizard
Supp barb
Uliana or One punch Monk (waiting for slander and ill switch to support)
Supp Witch Doctor

If i have phelons/beta playground enabled for my witch doctor, he wont cast spells at all, just walk back and forth.
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/79041-2-4-1-zdoc-support-100-grifts
thats the build i use except for neck where i have a different one.
What am i doing wrong?
 
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Can you link to the build for this?
Firebird | Vyr => Archon with Teleport
 
Thanks Phelon for the great work you are doing, can you link the builds that you are using. I went ahead and pasted what i found so far

Monk
zDPS => Group Support Meta http://www.diablofans.com/builds/78920-support-monk-gr-groups

WitchDoctor
zDPS => Group Support Meta http://www.diablofans.com/builds/79041-2-4-1-zdoc-support-100-grifts

Wizard
Firebird | Vyr => Archon with Teleport ??
Tal Rasha => Twisted Sword | Archon http://www.diablofans.com/builds/79101-2-4-1-tal-energy-twister-wizard (doesn't have archon)

Barbarian
zDPS ??
ZDPS => Thorns http://www.diablofans.com/builds/78133-2-4-1-lon-thorns-frenzy-barb
Raekor => Charge + Boulder Toss ??
 
Cant get the Solo barb with Raekors + Boulder toss to work properly? It just spams charge and never use ancient spear-boulder toss.
 
fadi said:
Thanks Phelon for the great work you are doing, can you link the builds that you are using. I went ahead and pasted what i found so far

Monk
zDPS => Group Support Meta http://www.diablofans.com/builds/78920-support-monk-gr-groups

WitchDoctor
zDPS => Group Support Meta http://www.diablofans.com/builds/79041-2-4-1-zdoc-support-100-grifts

Wizard
Firebird | Vyr => Archon with Teleport ??
Tal Rasha => Twisted Sword | Archon http://www.diablofans.com/builds/79101-2-4-1-tal-energy-twister-wizard | http://www.diablofans.com/builds/80253-new-chinese-build-tal-rasha-vyr-archon-gr103-video


Barbarian
zDPS => http://www.d3planner.com/200747303

ZDPS => Thorns http://www.diablofans.com/builds/78133-2-4-1-lon-thorns-frenzy-barb
Raekor => Charge + Boulder Toss ??
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added zdps barb and tal archon build links for you :)
 
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