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suggest to make perm-license into 2-year license

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demonD

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Hi, don't get me wrong, ofcause I am happy if I can keep my bot license permanently functional, but seeing the amount of works DB team needs to do for the price I paid I feel a little guilty.

Let me just list some of my thoughts here why I am willing to pay them every 2 years

* Since all seasons now will only last 3 months or less they need to work much harder than before to make us happy
* we want them to have the incentive to deliver us all the best features asap, like ban-resistant measures; full bounties supports; split bounties farming; multi-acc farming supports etc.
* without a reliable way to generate future revenues, soon new customer base would dry up and leave them with mass recipients who feels no need to shed 1 more penny, thus shut-down of the DB will be inevitable.
* 2 years term should be acceptable for everyone for that price you paid.

Just my thoughts, of cause I am not expecting everyone to agree with me, I just enjoy botting alot, frees up my time to live "normally" and play games like a hard-core.
 
Not a good idea to me. First, there are lots of us who own multiple licenses (I own 4). I think it's better to make demonbuddy and trinity and adventurer (you can't use one of them without the other ones) to work almost perfect, since it does not happen that way. Then, maybe it wolud be a good idea to pay every 2 years, even one year.
 
I agree, I run 4x as well and wouldn't keep them current if switched to a annual or biannual system. It would also be hard to sell the change to all the existing customers who had paid for a lifetime product. Maybe they could add a tipjar or donation link for those who want to go above and beyond.
 
Dude, if you want to give them more money, buy more licenses. Changing lifetime to 2 years would make a lot more people upset than it would please.
 
They can't change that for existing licenses, only for new licenses .
 
I would pay more for better upkeep of profiles and such. But then again, I make my own money and don't need to ask mommy for it.
 
They offer a monthly option. If you care that much (and yes, they deserve it), then you can pay monthly for your licenses. Everyone wins.
 
Rikachan said:
They offer a monthly option. If you care that much (and yes, they deserve it), then you can pay monthly for your licenses. Everyone wins.
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To be fair that doesn't impact a lot of the developers who we rely on patch after patch for their releases.

Of course, neither would swapping permanent licenses to non permanent. The buddy team themselves would actually have to release 100% working profiles/ect.
 
I agree, developers of trinity and the other plugins deserve some love.
 
demonD said:
* we want them to have the incentive to deliver us all the best features asap, like ban-resistant measures; full bounties supports; split bounties farming; multi-acc farming supports etc.
* without a reliable way to generate future revenues, soon new customer base would dry up and leave them with mass recipients who feels no need to shed 1 more penny, thus shut-down of the DB will be inevitable.
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Well, seeing as how the buddy team doesn't pay the developers of Trinity, Adventurer or any other plugins as far as I'm aware of. this wouldn't really help much. Probably the best way to support the work that's being done is to donate to the plugin developers.
 
kabal said:
Well, seeing as how the buddy team doesn't pay the developers of Trinity, Adventurer or any other plugins as far as I'm aware of. this wouldn't really help much. Probably the best way to support the work that's being done is to donate to the plugin developers.
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Buddy team and developers need to appear "separated" for many purposes, they are deeply connected and well communicated at all time.

Anyway, the whole purpose of paying them every two year is to reward them constantly if they would give us best and prompt services. Current state of DB and all profiles are just good yet no where near best or perfect, hopefully with substantial amount of revenue rolls in every day they will deliver us a full feathered DB+profiles. If not? well, I for one will pack my stuff and leave after license expired, when majority subscribers do that DB team will feel the hurt, if they are truly serious business orientated they would never let that happen.
 
demonD said:
Buddy team and developers need to appear "separated" for many purposes, they are deeply connected and well communicated at all time.

Anyway, the whole purpose of paying them every two year is to reward them constantly if they would give us best and prompt services. Current state of DB and all profiles are just good yet no where near best or perfect, hopefully with substantial amount of revenue rolls in every day they will deliver us a full feathered DB+profiles. If not? well, I for one will pack my stuff and leave after license expired, when majority subscribers do that DB team will feel the hurt, if they are truly serious business orientated they would never let that happen.
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This isn't how business works, nor would this affect them in any way for the first 2 years until licenses start to expire...So we get the exact same service for those first 2 years that we've already gotten...

A better solution is for you to report the problems you're having with profiles and DB as a whole in their appropriate threads. Thinking that having additional revenue coming in without actually reporting the issues you're having is silly at best.

And saying profiles are broken and DB doesn't function correctly helps noone. You need specifics in the appropriate threads. If you want change, you should definitely try that first.
 
I agree 100% with ryfto that the absolute best way to work out kinks and to generate more ideas for functionality is communication. This communication needs to be constructive, even negative is okay as well as positive. Opening a thread post and saying that "after the latest patch my average clear time has dropped what gives?" This doesn't help a whole lot, sure it brings to light that there may be a problem but you aren't giving any idea into how it could be happening. Trying to recreate a problem that one person is having can be a huge pain in the ass. So the more info we can give the better.

To also reiterate what others have said, the developers of trinity and adventurer are not affiliated or paid by bossland. They do all of their work for free and gladly take your donations to help. Bossland has provided a great base for this bot but much of the functionality comes from those two plugins. So if you wan't to support as much as possible then feel free to donate to them. As far as changing from lifetime to a bi-annual license won't work very well, they can't change the licenses that already exist without their permission. As they sold that person a lifetime key and not a two year, they can't just bait and switch. So best route if you want to support more is to donate to all or any you prefer to work more. :D

Happy botting!
 
ryfto and Mr Mc. you two are trying to argue that which one happens first chicken or egg...you want to have the best product then the willingness to pay, my standing point is pay them first then give them the credit to deliver best product. Judging from their efforts from previous years I am confident that the DB team will deliver much better products if we can trust them my way.
 
There is no argument of chicken and egg coming first, we know the lifetime agreement came first. It has already been paid for and bossland is expected to hold its end.

I agree that your will generate more revenue for development. We agree on that :D We also agree that given time buddy/bossland products always improve.

The difference comes when you suggest to change all keys to 2 years, you legally can't. These specific keys were sold as an advertised lifetime key. You can't retroactively change a key from lifetime to 2 years. They can however discontinue the sale of lifetime keys and move to a subscription base model. The issue is that will only be for future keys, not current. So it can work, it just won't have any effect on the majority of keys already sold.

Now if they built a whole new bot with a completely different architecture and function capability, then they could sell that under the new payment plan. They would just have to make sure that the old system was compatible as well. Then they would be supporting two products with the same goal.
 
yeah.. give them love with paypal donation!
no need to change the DB sub.
 
They can push Buddy v2 and make it total new thing, and stop support buddy v1. :)
 
also agree.. send them a paypal donation if you want to give more.. no hard feelings to the developers.. ive been contemplating a 4th key and an annual sub would totally make that decision easy..
 
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