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SimpleDK - DK CC by Fedehat

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fedehat said:
Think I finally found the cause of the range issues, try 0.8.5 and let me know if there are still problems.
Unholy rotation holds it's own again as well, doing decent dps.


Didn't swap, but I put it in as a very high priority if health falls below 80% and then only every 5 seconds. Same in Unholy.


Done.
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Nice one amte testing now :D
 
sorry Fedehat, wasn't meant to imply to swap it out completely was meant to be just a casual observation regarding frost levelling.
 
frost pwning everything, major update you done here fedehat 4 thumbs up ( yep even my big toes on my feet )
 
Hey also has issue with attacking cookie in Deadmines as hes in a pot??

Also could u add the option to disable all movement, as it can really get annoying when you are on a boss you want simple DK doing the DPS but u wanna move into a safe zone and the cc is constantly trying to run in.
So basically all SimpleDK would do is the dps rotation and youd control the position of char
 
UndiluteD said:
Hey also has issue with attacking cookie in Deadmines as hes in a pot??

Also could u add the option to disable all movement, as it can really get annoying when you are on a boss you want simple DK doing the DPS but u wanna move into a safe zone and the cc is constantly trying to run in.
So basically all SimpleDK would do is the dps rotation and youd control the position of char
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Sorry i'm confused, why would you want to do this? That would seem like it would be more boring, imo at least. I understand a dev doing it to make the dpsing part better, but why would you want to do it? Just curious
 
shinoowns said:
Sorry i'm confused, why would you want to do this? That would seem like it would be more boring, imo at least. I understand a dev doing it to make the dpsing part better, but why would you want to do it? Just curious
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Because say in the second boss fo vortex pinicle you ahve to doge the wirlwinds IB cant do this so i need to manually control where my char stands. At the moment im having to do both movement and combat
 
you could create an IB profile, so the bot knows what to move away from. I seem to remember there being details in the IB thread.
 
Kramxel said:
you could create an IB profile, so the bot knows what to move away from. I seem to remember there being details in the IB thread.
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IB is nolw encrypted in an .dll file so u cannot make your own profiles anymore.

Also by the time your hit its too late.
 
Kramxel said:
you could create an IB profile, so the bot knows what to move away from. I seem to remember there being details in the IB thread.
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Raphus has encoded all this into a .dll file now. I'm not certain profiles can be made for IB anymore. It would have to be checked on with raphus and also researched in the thread. But, it was a good idea.
 
Lovin the update, it's nice and smooth so far with grinding. Something that could be thought about; D & D is a bit of a waster in the spell rotation on a single mob for Unholy. Could an "if" statement be tossed in to be used with adds instead? The DPS increase on single mob grinds would be noticable, as you have 3 runes which you can use more efficiently I would think. Thoughts?
 
In Herorics/Duneons (Level 85) in there current form, many boss attempts while using IB are near hard or impossible to do. Examples of these are the last boss in Stonecore, the boss has a shadow spell and the group needs to move into a safe zone. Atm even with movement disabled in IB it does not disable movement in the CC. So when i try to move into this "safe spot" IB attempts to move back to the boss often resulting in a wipe. The only alternative is stopping a starting IB which when including the start up time is not really viable oftyen resulting in low dps on bosses which require manual movement.

So a feature i would like to see is disable all movement on bosses or potentially blaclisted ones (IE ones IB cant do) or as a minimum disable movement under CC config so it can easily be tunred on for trash mobs and off for bosses.

Also when in deadmines the last boss vanessa has a dream where you are required to dodge many things falling rocks and lasers this is where control of your char is very important to suceed and i would still like the advantage of having SimpleDK doing the DPS rotations.

Thanks
 
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Just came back to WoW and using HB etc...

Needless to say, with the changes to frost, your CC is working quite well, thanks!
 
secarter2k3 said:
Lovin the update, it's nice and smooth so far with grinding. Something that could be thought about; D & D is a bit of a waster in the spell rotation on a single mob for Unholy. Could an "if" statement be tossed in to be used with adds instead? The DPS increase on single mob grinds would be noticable, as you have 3 runes which you can use more efficiently I would think. Thoughts?
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It's there because Elitistjerks lists it as part of the singletarget rotation, but since their guides are aimed at boss fights I'll do some DPS test on the dummy with/without D&D and adjust the rotation.

UndiluteD said:
In Herorics/Duneons (Level 85) in there current form, many boss attempts while using IB are near hard or impossible to do. Examples of these are the last boss in Stonecore, the boss has a shadow spell and the group needs to move into a safe zone. Atm even with movement disabled in IB it does not disable movement in the CC. So when i try to move into this "safe spot" IB attempts to move back to the boss often resulting in a wipe. The only alternative is stopping a starting IB which when including the start up time is not really viable oftyen resulting in low dps on bosses which require manual movement.

So a feature i would like to see is disable all movement on bosses or potentially blaclisted ones (IE ones IB cant do) or as a minimum disable movement under CC config so it can easily be tunred on for trash mobs and off for bosses.

Also when in deadmines the last boss vanessa has a dream where you are required to dodge many things falling rocks and lasers this is where control of your char is very important to suceed and i would still like the advantage of having SimpleDK doing the DPS rotations.

Thanks
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Sounds like a good idea, and the same problem is in non-heroic. Try getting inside the triangle at last boss in Vortex Pinnacle :) I'll see what I can figure out.
 
fedehat said:
It's there because Elitistjerks lists it as part of the singletarget rotation, but since their guides are aimed at boss fights I'll do some DPS test on the dummy with/without D&D and adjust the rotation..
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I've found that by the time D & D is dropped, the mob has 10-20% health left so there is maybe two ticks from D & D before the mob dies. On a target dummy, D & D will show as good damage, but when grinding on mobs with limited health, it doesn't make a lot of sense to drop it, especially with 10-20% health left :)
 
Would be really good if there was an option, or say a different version with CC movement disabled along the lines of what Undilute was saying. :) Thanks Fedehat.
 
I have used this CC from start as frost and I would say that not using Plague Strike is dps gain because Obliterate spamm is so much more dps with killing machine and rime procs
 
UREG said:
I have used this CC from start as frost and I would say that not using Plague Strike is dps gain because Obliterate spamm is so much more dps with killing machine and rime procs
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possibly with low gear, as your gear (and content) improves then definately not. Also bearing in mind obliterate spam will screw up your rotation which for short fights isn't an issue but for long fights will actually be a dps loss overall.
 
Okay, i feel owned! :) I played a lot of DK in WoTLK actually tanked everything :P and when i decided to lvl my DK, i went to MH and started it up with this CC, and it actually did better than me :P Nice job m8 :)
 
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