Gold market crash

[kravitz]

I'll take 100,000K for $10

 

[Angelus]

Angelus please do us a favor and buy the 999rub package and then copy paste here your payment rejection cause you use EU credit/debit cards.
Works tho if you use Webmoney.

Sure mister smartass, perhaps if you are doing it blatantly, but real G's move in silence like lasagna wop wop wop

You act like you know it all, but the only thing you are showing off is your ignorance.

 

[dartex008]

demand is there, once those stonecore bots/dupes are fixed prices will go back up.

 

[trtamrta]

No demands,did t sure why maybe garrison supply all gold needs to casual wow player,so gold seller are overstock wth golds and price drooping . . .

 

[frosticus]

real G's move in silence like lasagna wop wop wop

am i the only one roflmao when he said lasagna followed by the words wop wop wop.

fucking guineas

 

[wtfmofo]

The low prices reason not "BOTTERS" atm. The low gold price reason is , DUPE PET SELLERS ! They are selling TCG pets and now "HateSpark Tiny" which has high demand they have unlimited pets and selling on trade chat an all servers. this mean they make millions gold each day atm. Botters not the reason.

No the 5-10million gold PER SERVER the bots are making are not the reason....its surely these pets you talk about.

/facepalm

 

[Tentomas]

Sure mister smartass, perhaps if you are doing it blatantly, but real G's move in silence like lasagna wop wop wop

You act like you know it all, but the only thing you are showing off is your ignorance.

1 account? Sorry didnt know I have to do with 1 account botter.
Now try that x50-100 daily. GL
Might get through 10-20 accs per day tho

 

[Wargon]

well this things with boosted accounts(druids and hunters) start near march of 2014 in Black temple(wall hack+clear trash )
at summer blizz do some fixes in payments and blocks some ip`s with that fraud-and it`s stopped for some time
then when blizz do Pre wod patch- blizz upp all players against mobs+ do bigger ammount of gold for running dungeon
so if in past those guys farm near 15-20k daily(wall+speed hack was fixed before wod pre patch)-after patch they start do near 30-35k grim batol
and near 4k in hour in Stonecore(i think it`s differen companys do that)
with using teleport hack+wall hack+ automated with hb after i do my research(have time on work lol) i do near 75k at 1 day on my warrior
so you can imagine how much gold they do on free accs+ hacks
so any theorys of another things is just bullshit. no one even blizz can`t do against them near year.cos boost be always
blizz just can`t avoid frauds.but they can kill dungeon farms(if they care at all)
that`s all for now

 

[Shyoden]

With temporary profit even from fraudulent credit cards, it increases their value.
Even if $XXX.XX money was fraud, and what not, they can say they had $XXX.XX sales, but not say which portion was fraud. This is good for relationships with investors.

And, you can't really stop credit card fraud. It happens not only in the gaming industry, but in multiple various industries, actually almost every industry.
Everyone here is cheating, doesn't matter if it's using bots, or maximizing bots using fraud. All everyone is doing at the end of the day is attempting to profit. And some call it being innovative.

This hits the nail on the head. Not only this, but during the time that Blizzard actually 'has' this money they reinvest it. It is actually quite genius.

 

[seniorcitizen]

Ive talked to a lot of vendors and I haven't been able to find someone to sell my gold for more than .25$/1000g....

I was hoping to get at least .3$/1000g lol... it's sad to have to hold out just to find a rate that is still in the end, really low.

I'm spending more time trying to find somewhere to dump my gold than my gold is worth $/hour

Honestly man my mentality with this is grow a pair. If someone offers me under .2 I tell them to fuck off. It's still a business and it's way to easy to manipulate us gold farmers into shitty prices. When you sell gold you don't ask hey "how much you are buying for?" you should just list your stock with the price you are willing to take regardless if they turn you down everytime. They are just doing an endless cycle of trying to break you to see how low you will go. Who do you think is really profiting.. the guy who maintained his bot all day to avoid bans to make 50k or the guy who logs into a lvl 1 account that costs $0-$10 and then he spends 30 minutes to paypal you $10 and sell it to his buyer for $25. Only sell gold at what you think it's worth and that is definitely not $0.20 per k. When they have to stall a customer because all their suppliers are refusing to take a shit price then that magic number they pull out of the air starts to rise because they have to keep business. So all in all don't be a fool and work for nothing the bot doesn't do everything for you and you have to risk much more than the people that are making money off you.

The most important thing to recover the price is to make sure to give them a lot of shit for even offering you such a terrible price stop being so passive. That is not the market prices and to be honest the goldsellers are looking for their ideal candidate that seems like a pushover because their own crowd tends to be scammy. Do you think they really run a legit business I bet they are making bullshit accounts all day trying to trick their competition into scamming their gold when they don't have buyers because most resellers tend to not bot as well.

If you have even moar bawls you will ignore them completely and focus on finding some real people or trustworthy private buyers. Also make sure to identify the on demand price if you do trade at lowball prices. If they message you for your stock don't give it to them until they tell you on demand price and ask for it specifically or they will just act like it's cool to charge you bulk price.

If the chinese are botting so much gold then why do they buy so much gold per day if they are capable of doing this themselves? The answer is simple, they have very low success rate with buying from people that are stealing CC to bot because they get charge backs a month down the road and destroy their profits. Go let them try and sell gold on demand without us and they would be out of business by now.

I should add that I have developed relationships with some vendors and I don't think they are scum or whatever it's just that I'm willing to put my foot down when someone is clearly trying to manipulate me.

Buyer: "Gold price is so low sorry I can only give you this grain of rice per 1k gold."
Seller: "Okay here is my paypall..."
Buyer: "(Handshake)"
Seller: "Hey so why are gold prices so shit if you ask me for my gold everyday?"
Buyer: "Because you're a tool and anytime someone wants gold on your realm it's easy money"
Seller: "Okay thanks cheers mate!"

 

[seniorcitizen]

Also sorry for WoT but wanted to add one last thing that price isn't some stock they check every morning. As an experiment I toyed around with some buyers to discover their game and it was pretty obvious they offered my buddy (the new customer) higher prices than me but eventually they started to pull their whole omg the sky is falling gold is worthless but I still want yours crap.

 

[klepp0906]

.3 what? cents??

They're paying 30 cents per 1k and selling for $7-8 per 10k?

Wait till they add wildstars integrated gold selling, kiss your livelihood goodbye, start thinking about other games now imo. Wow is too commercial for it's own good when its Dev which bans for rmt begins participating in such while banning it's competition.

Sad days we live in.

 

[iamnotme]

It's business, nothing personal. Supply and demand. Too much producers. Only a crazy man would choose the more expensive producer for his business.

This is the harsh truth. I think you you call this a saturated market?

 

[seniorcitizen]

It's business, nothing personal. Supply and demand. Too much producers. Only a crazy man would choose the more expensive producer for his business.

This is the harsh truth.

Not really man if they messaged you for gold chances are unless you've known them for quite a while that you weren't the first person they asked. It's not something you can just whip out of thin air either you have to work a little for your gold, so that good guy goldseller willing to sell for $0.10 per k has no chance of trying to sustain the market by himself if everyone else says good day that's too shitty of a price.

This is like if I sell weed and I go to my custos and say "Hey man how much you buying weed for?" which is more retarded than anything I've ever heard so I don't know why they set the price. You have risk involved just like in this case selling drugs and that is why you say "Hey I'm selling my shit for this price" and they can decide if they want it or to move to another supplier.

Also when you get scammed a lot by the nature of your business you do not simply "pick the least expensive producer" it's more about building a relationship of trust and dependability and if you just look for all the lowest offers you will be scammed enough to know that is not true.

 

[iamnotme]

Not really man if they messaged you for gold chances are unless you've known them for quite a while that you weren't the first person they asked. It's not something you can just whip out of thin air either you have to work a little for your gold, so that good guy goldseller willing to sell for $0.10 per k has no chance of trying to sustain the market by himself if everyone else says good day that's too shitty of a price.

This is like if I sell weed and I go to my custos and say "Hey man how much you buying weed for?" which is more retarded than anything I've ever heard so I don't know why they set the price. You have risk involved just like in this case selling drugs and that is why you say "Hey I'm selling my shit for this price" and they can decide if they want it or to move to another supplier.

Also when you get scammed a lot by the nature of your business you do not simply "pick the least expensive producer" it's more about building a relationship of trust and dependability and if you just look for all the lowest offers you will be scammed enough to know that is not true.

Well, that's just what hypothetically I would do if I wanted to maximize profits, there no evidence saying it's impossible.

[video=youtube;X-V_WHJ_UPE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-V_WHJ_UPE[/video]
p.s. Now if I were buying gold, I would ask for a stock update daily. It has nothing to do with trying to get the lowest price, well for me it isn't.... I mean wouldn't be. Like you said, it's possible "chances are unless you've known them for quite a while that you weren't the first person they asked." ... but not likely to be 100% .

 

[Tentomas]

Honestly man my mentality with this is grow a pair. If someone offers me under .2 I tell them to fuck off. It's still a business and it's way to easy to manipulate us gold farmers into shitty prices. When you sell gold you don't ask hey "how much you are buying for?" you should just list your stock with the price you are willing to take regardless if they turn you down everytime. They are just doing an endless cycle of trying to break you to see how low you will go. Who do you think is really profiting.. the guy who maintained his bot all day to avoid bans to make 50k or the guy who logs into a lvl 1 account that costs $0-$10 and then he spends 30 minutes to paypal you $10 and sell it to his buyer for $25. Only sell gold at what you think it's worth and that is definitely not $0.20 per k. When they have to stall a customer because all their suppliers are refusing to take a shit price then that magic number they pull out of the air starts to rise because they have to keep business. So all in all don't be a fool and work for nothing the bot doesn't do everything for you and you have to risk much more than the people that are making money off you.

The most important thing to recover the price is to make sure to give them a lot of shit for even offering you such a terrible price stop being so passive. That is not the market prices and to be honest the goldsellers are looking for their ideal candidate that seems like a pushover because their own crowd tends to be scammy. Do you think they really run a legit business I bet they are making bullshit accounts all day trying to trick their competition into scamming their gold when they don't have buyers because most resellers tend to not bot as well.

If you have even moar bawls you will ignore them completely and focus on finding some real people or trustworthy private buyers. Also make sure to identify the on demand price if you do trade at lowball prices. If they message you for your stock don't give it to them until they tell you on demand price and ask for it specifically or they will just act like it's cool to charge you bulk price.

If the chinese are botting so much gold then why do they buy so much gold per day if they are capable of doing this themselves? The answer is simple, they have very low success rate with buying from people that are stealing CC to bot because they get charge backs a month down the road and destroy their profits. Go let them try and sell gold on demand without us and they would be out of business by now.

I should add that I have developed relationships with some vendors and I don't think they are scum or whatever it's just that I'm willing to put my foot down when someone is clearly trying to manipulate me.

Buyer: "Gold price is so low sorry I can only give you this grain of rice per 1k gold."
Seller: "Okay here is my paypall..."
Buyer: "(Handshake)"
Seller: "Hey so why are gold prices so shit if you ask me for my gold everyday?"
Buyer: "Because you're a tool and anytime someone wants gold on your realm it's easy money"
Seller: "Okay thanks cheers mate!"

Kinda imposible when you are getting more than 300k per day.
Ofc ppl will sell at "what ever" price then.

 

[seniorcitizen]

Yeah someone mentioned that the prices are driving away the 5-10 man botters so I guess I couldn't blame you if you simply have too much gold with a larger bot group then it wouldn't matter so much

 

[happyfriet]

the little man suffers the most here

 

[frosticus]

i call bullshit on noclip. if you have evidence to the contrary, skype me

 

[plzdontban]

For those of you saying, tell the buyer to f himself and manipulate the market by withholding - you guys represent an insignificant percent of the market. The bulk buyers are already flipping gold constantly all day among the large companies and vendors, your bot gold is just icing. Even for those of you who are saying, but but I run 50 bots on 25 servers. You're still insignificant. You truly have no say in market price, the chinese decide that through volume.

Frosticus if you want to see the noclipping, google/youtube - WOW Stonecore - Exploit/Hack 500druids/minute