Mirabis
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This makes me giggle.
Thinks: Bit hard to accumulate proof of deleted posts if they no longer exist ^^ ?
Make an official disclaimer already
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This makes me giggle.
Thinks: Bit hard to accumulate proof of deleted posts if they no longer exist ^^ ?
Tony
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For the last 1-2 weeks I've levelled from 1 - 87 with a mixture of questing bot and Tyrael. As of yet I'm not banned.
I've turned off features that i feel make me stand out like a bot, I've matched my previous play style so i don't look different, i turn the bot off every now and again to take legitimate breaks, I've performed worse in boss fights to make me look more human, i make mistakes like pressing fear in rotations, or pressing other buttons or screwing up in general. I talk regularly in chat and just try and act normal.
I think the vast majority of people being banned are people who are using incomplete routines (i.e. Kicks profiles) and are botting for large periods of time with it being unattended.
3 times on Monday just gone, i reported people for botting. They where clearly botting and IMO bringing unnecessary attention to the botting community. 1 guy was clearly botting inside a dungeon, the same group 2 did dungeons and the same dungeons and the same guy followed the same path both times, so he got reported at least 3 times from that group. The other 2 times where people either hop stepping while following a quest escort or running into environmental objects.
Now its been started on here that at the moment questing and gathering is being watched/hammered by Blizzard, so that should be done manually for the time being. If you quested and got banned and you read this forum, then you wouldn't have quest botted.
When you bot you need to match your previous and current play times and styles to not "look" abnormal. If you all of a sudden play for 15 hours a day when you normally only played for 3 hours a day, it will look very dodgy to GM's. Just because your botting, doesn't mean your either immune or god.
You need to act as much like a human being as possible, talk in /general and guild chat often, turn the bot off for an hour and pretend your going to the shops in guild chat or something. Add to the illusion that your a person not a machine playing the game. Very few people can constantly move and fight for 10 hours without needing a piss.
If your rotation botting, turn it off every now and again, monitor your DPS and make sure you do badly on some fights. For example i play a warlock and can easily do more dps then most classes on AoE and sometimes certain boss fights, so for example on a mobile boss fight like the last boss in brewery i should be doing less DPS then the melee, so i always make sure i am.
I also try and explain to people why certain things happen with my character, for example i have a K90 keyboard and Nostromo Speed pad, both macro heavy and i just explain sometimes that I've macro'd certain abilities together and to press very frequently i.e. Incinerate macro which presses the key x amount of times a second if you press and hold.
Don't have the bot automate facing, targeting and movement, turn off pet summoning. Turn off interrupts, as time and time again people are making posts related to interrupts.
Now for my conspiracy....
I think these bans are related to Click to Move, i think they are watching players who have this enabled and checking in on them. This feature outside the bot community i would argue is used very infrequently.
I back this up with the consistent posts about gathering, honour and quest botting players getting banned and they are all click to move bots.
Botting is a risk and we all know it, you have to accept that if you don't take protections and precautions you will be found out sooner then others.
Posted in the other thread, so added it here.
I've turned off features that i feel make me stand out like a bot, I've matched my previous play style so i don't look different, i turn the bot off every now and again to take legitimate breaks, I've performed worse in boss fights to make me look more human, i make mistakes like pressing fear in rotations, or pressing other buttons or screwing up in general. I talk regularly in chat and just try and act normal.
I think the vast majority of people being banned are people who are using incomplete routines (i.e. Kicks profiles) and are botting for large periods of time with it being unattended.
3 times on Monday just gone, i reported people for botting. They where clearly botting and IMO bringing unnecessary attention to the botting community. 1 guy was clearly botting inside a dungeon, the same group 2 did dungeons and the same dungeons and the same guy followed the same path both times, so he got reported at least 3 times from that group. The other 2 times where people either hop stepping while following a quest escort or running into environmental objects.
Now its been started on here that at the moment questing and gathering is being watched/hammered by Blizzard, so that should be done manually for the time being. If you quested and got banned and you read this forum, then you wouldn't have quest botted.
When you bot you need to match your previous and current play times and styles to not "look" abnormal. If you all of a sudden play for 15 hours a day when you normally only played for 3 hours a day, it will look very dodgy to GM's. Just because your botting, doesn't mean your either immune or god.
You need to act as much like a human being as possible, talk in /general and guild chat often, turn the bot off for an hour and pretend your going to the shops in guild chat or something. Add to the illusion that your a person not a machine playing the game. Very few people can constantly move and fight for 10 hours without needing a piss.
If your rotation botting, turn it off every now and again, monitor your DPS and make sure you do badly on some fights. For example i play a warlock and can easily do more dps then most classes on AoE and sometimes certain boss fights, so for example on a mobile boss fight like the last boss in brewery i should be doing less DPS then the melee, so i always make sure i am.
I also try and explain to people why certain things happen with my character, for example i have a K90 keyboard and Nostromo Speed pad, both macro heavy and i just explain sometimes that I've macro'd certain abilities together and to press very frequently i.e. Incinerate macro which presses the key x amount of times a second if you press and hold.
Don't have the bot automate facing, targeting and movement, turn off pet summoning. Turn off interrupts, as time and time again people are making posts related to interrupts.
Now for my conspiracy....
I think these bans are related to Click to Move, i think they are watching players who have this enabled and checking in on them. This feature outside the bot community i would argue is used very infrequently.
I back this up with the consistent posts about gathering, honour and quest botting players getting banned and they are all click to move bots.
Botting is a risk and we all know it, you have to accept that if you don't take protections and precautions you will be found out sooner then others.
Posted in the other thread, so added it here.
amputations
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Bot smart and you wont get banned, simple as that.
Only thing your post says is many people dont bot smart.
Xerious
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Please ban this fool!
So because i report blatant and stupid botters, i should be banned?
Grow up, I'm trying to reduce the amount of morons who can't use this tool correctly.
ryftobuddy
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Maybe you should check the forum rules, Ashton187. Reporting fellow botters is not allowed in any way, no matter how stupid they're botting.
You've been a member for over a year, how could you not know that?
You've been a member for over a year, how could you not know that?
chinajade
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Hi, Ashton187,
Indeed Xerious and Ryftobuddy are correct. Reporting fellow botters is one of a few offenses that requires an immediate forum perma-ban. Next time, you might want to familiarize yourself with the rules before posting.
Ref: BosslandGmbH Forum Rules & Guidelines
Ref: HelpDesk: Why are my forum threads/posts disappearing?
Ref: HelpDesk: Why are my forum threads/posts disappearing?
cheers & sorry you decided to do this,
chinajade
bambam922
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Now where are these threads you say got deleted?
The only ones deleted are a spam thread and threads that are against forum rules.
http://i.imgur.com/Tuj6Nir.png
http://i.imgur.com/YydnouZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/Y6ZER0U.png
http://i.imgur.com/4gMO8jc.png
http://i.imgur.com/B9Vx0qo.png
The thing is, ban rates increase this time of year, every year.
Also, I just started a new toon last night using kick's profiles. He's in the 50s.
The only ones deleted are a spam thread and threads that are against forum rules.
http://i.imgur.com/Tuj6Nir.png
http://i.imgur.com/YydnouZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/Y6ZER0U.png
http://i.imgur.com/4gMO8jc.png
http://i.imgur.com/B9Vx0qo.png
The thing is, ban rates increase this time of year, every year.
Also, I just started a new toon last night using kick's profiles. He's in the 50s.
kpow
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Hey me too!
I reported Kpowsbank, Kpowspally, and plzdontbankpow! They continued to undercut me in the AH so I would get on my alt and undercut them. I could tell they were botting every time I got on my other alts they had already undercut me again!! Hopefully they will be banned soon.
Wait a minute...?
LowKey
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If someone's obvious bot is failing hard, send 'em a discrete whisper, like, "Hey, I think your mount is too big to fit thru that door," as opposed to something dumb like, "hey fellow bot, I noticed your bot is stuck on a door. That happens when I bot on this account all the time. Don't worry about it, I won't report you for botting on your bot like I bot on my bot."
loyoladude
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im not sure botanist, fps ware or I will agree with you there. Plugin Devs and long-time-seasoned botters are being banned and having entire battle.nets mass-banned. Pull your thumb out of your ass.
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Rule of life: there are always exceptions. Yes, what happened to them happened. I refuse to believe that many bans occur this way, as I'm yet to see any evidence. (Aside from the few exceptions of course)
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zeldrak
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I'm sorry but what have you developed?
-Please don't take it personally.
its a fair comment - for hb not a lot (infact, nothing released publicly). It's no real secret that i kinda lost most of my interest/drive in botting when glider went down (and even then 95% of my stuff was private back then too!).
It is for that reason i said 'and long-time-seasoned botters' which I included myself in.