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Who wants an alternative to GB2?

Tyler' said:
Hello, fpsware!

Will it be possible for Farmer Joe to have such enhanced option before mailing or putting in GVault everything he gathered as the next one: mailing all the herbs to character #A, smelt half/30/70% of the ores and then sending ores and bars to character #B.
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No.
 
Phelon said:
I haven't seen you on skype lately so I figured I would drop this here:

GatherBro Total Lines of Code Count: Matching lines: 35184 Matching files: 184 Total files searched: 188

I need to get out more =). Stay safe bud!

For Giggles.. this is how I did it:

You don't need 3rd party tools, just press CTRL+SHIFT+F, and in the window that pops up choose "use regular expression". Use this Regular Expression:

VS 2012:
^(?([^\r\n])\s)*[^\s+?/]+[^\n]*$

VS 2008:

^:b*[^:b#/]+.*$
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Considerably less. Matching lines: 14372 Matching files: 87 Total files searched: 87

I've been moving house and haven't had much time for anything else.
 
Today's progress...

Just a small update as I don't have too much free time at the moment.

You can now select the default node maps to load when you start Farmer Joe, instead of the "Current Zones" always being used you can now specify either, Current Zone, Node Maps by Location, Node Maps by Item Name. So if you're using a relogger you can now use multiple zones without issue.
 
Sounds interesting FPSWare, but I believe it won't work. The problem is the mesh waypoints - no matter how many points you set, HonorBuddy still uses its own underlying mesh to get you from YOUR point a to YOUR point b. I discovered this while setting waypoints manually one by one - I knew exactly all the points I was taking, and HB was still rushing over to this lamppost and getting stuck on it, though none of MY waypoints were over there.

Getting rid of the click to move, and using the mesh just to steer using the wasd keys, is the only way I'd give HonorBuddy a shot again. Blizzard done got you good HonorBuddy, and no amount of crying 'It's not our fault!' is going to stop your users from being banned nonetheless.
 
Kamilche said:
Sounds interesting FPSWare, but I believe it won't work. The problem is the mesh waypoints - no matter how many points you set, HonorBuddy still uses its own underlying mesh to get you from YOUR point a to YOUR point b. I discovered this while setting waypoints manually one by one - I knew exactly all the points I was taking, and HB was still rushing over to this lamppost and getting stuck on it, though none of MY waypoints were over there.

Getting rid of the click to move, and using the mesh just to steer using the wasd keys, is the only way I'd give HonorBuddy a shot again. Blizzard done got you good HonorBuddy, and no amount of crying 'It's not our fault!' is going to stop your users from being banned nonetheless.
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I don't think it's that bad honestly. I mean, yeah, pathing is complete shit. And devs refuse to rework it. But heh, it will do fine for a while.
It just saddens me that there's nothing the community can do to improve the navigation system, same as BGBuddy.
 
Phelon said:
It isn't that the community can't fix the pathing or BGBuddy, it is just why would we want to? WoW is dying, and there is no monetary gain for the huge undertaking that would be re writing pathing or flying. I have somewhat wrote my own flying algorithm which I have introduced into GatherBro.. but what is the point to finish it as it doesn't help out the rest of the stuff I use in HB. The code I wrote finishes the job HB Navigation doesn't for what I need it to do, so why write more? Seems stupid to waste a ton of time fixing something (for free) that should come innately with the bot.

In My Opinion: They should open source all their lesser bots and let the community fix them. They expect open source on all projects posted here, so why not follow suit. They then could spend more time on the shit that matters, like the internals (see Navigation) of Honorbuddy and make it work solid so the addons to the bot actually work solid. The problem is that you have a pyramid of code built upside down.
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I would rephrase some of your text to be honest, I was given an infraction and post deleted for saying something similar :p

But yeah, I get your point, it shouldn't be us who have to do it, but they refuse to. And I do agree, WoW is dying and finding new methods to generate gold is getting harded day by day, making efforts seem worthless.
 
Phelon said:
Yes I agree exactly with what you say. The biggest problem with HB atm.. is its terrible pathing. It was great 3 years ago when there wasn't any, but now, I just can't watch my bot because it angers me to the point I have to turn it off.
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Yes very annoying, but you have to watch it because if you don't catch all the bad spots your bot is so vulnerable.

G
 
Phelon said:
To qualify what I said.. some of the things in HB are stellar. I like the quest bot.. I like the LFR bot when it works, but the pathing thing really needs to get addressed. Do I think they are going to address it? Probably not. HB works for what it says it does, does it do any of it very well compared to a human player? Going to have to say no, except maybe rotation bots, but technically speaking there are other options that do that better. For an all in 1 solution for 25 bucks it is worth the money. The problem I see is that it is too easy to tell you are a bot because some of the glaring flaws like Stuck, Navigation, Movement in general. I literally can sit and count the people in LFR botting just by watching movement for no more than about 3 minutes.
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Agreed, the old girl ain't what she used to be. I hope she gets some loving soon. Now whats this winterbuddy email I just got :)

G
 
Kamilche said:
Sounds interesting FPSWare, but I believe it won't work. The problem is the mesh waypoints - no matter how many points you set, HonorBuddy still uses its own underlying mesh to get you from YOUR point a to YOUR point b. I discovered this while setting waypoints manually one by one - I knew exactly all the points I was taking, and HB was still rushing over to this lamppost and getting stuck on it, though none of MY waypoints were over there.

Getting rid of the click to move, and using the mesh just to steer using the wasd keys, is the only way I'd give HonorBuddy a shot again. Blizzard done got you good HonorBuddy, and no amount of crying 'It's not our fault!' is going to stop your users from being banned nonetheless.
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Meshing is not used with Flightor. Farmer Joe is a flying gatherer ONLY. Meshes are not used for 99% of the time, and the 1% of the time they are used the character is within yards of the location it needs to navigate to.
 
Phelon said:
It isn't that the community can't fix the pathing or BGBuddy, it is just why would we want to? WoW is dying, and there is no monetary gain for the huge undertaking that would be re writing pathing or flying. I have somewhat wrote my own flying algorithm which I have introduced into GatherBro.. but what is the point to finish it as it doesn't help out the rest of the stuff I use in HB. The code I wrote finishes the job HB Navigation doesn't for what I need it to do, so why write more? Seems stupid to waste a ton of time fixing something (for free) that should come innately with the bot.

In My Opinion: They should open source all their lesser bots and let the community fix them. They expect open source on all projects posted here, so why not follow suit. They then could spend more time on the shit that matters, like the internals (see Navigation) of Honorbuddy and make it work solid so the addons to the bot actually work solid. The problem is that you have a pyramid of code built upside down.
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WORD! So fucking true!
 
I see your thoughts regarding LCP detection below. I still don't believe it will work - you're relying heavily on the 'startpoint/endpoint' line-segment construct remaining the same within the LCP detection algorithm. If they were to tweak the algorithm to check for individual points instead of line segments, they would still catch us. Going from B-A then from A-B will not save us, if they start checking how many times you've move-to-clicked on "A or B", as opposed to "A then B".

You could jigger your points a bit to make it more random, but you have to worry about not only your own points, but the underlying navigation mesh as well.

I wish you luck tho! Lots of us miss botting. I hope it makes a hearty comeback.

--Kamilche

fpsware said:
Its a rare thing on these forums to find a well though out constructive post, I take my hat off to you :)

The purpose of this experiment is to avoid following a set path and to make it as random as possible, theoretically, thereby negating LCP detection.

Currently, the botbase allows for a number of way point following systems; you can move to a random way point, move to the closest way point, move to the furthest way point. Each time you come with range (a randomized distance) of a way point it is removed from the "active list" so you don't visit it again during the "cycle".
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How can the HB-Devs not care about issues with "Flightor" or pathing at all?

If you look at the posts by the devs, they basically don't even visit the forums anymore.
I mean this game is still the biggest MMO by far - who cares if it is dying? As long as there are more than 1 million players it is still going to be a huge sucess with lots of people you can monetarize off.

I simply don't get this abcense and "IDGAF"-Mindset by the devs.

Maybe it's because Blizzard sued Bossland?
 
Kjin said:
How can the HB-Devs not care about issues with "Flightor" or pathing at all?

If you look at the posts by the devs, they basically don't even visit the forums anymore.
I mean this game is still the biggest MMO by far - who cares if it is dying? As long as there are more than 1 million players it is still going to be a huge sucess with lots of people you can monetarize off.

I simply don't get this abcense and "IDGAF"-Mindset by the devs.

Maybe it's because Blizzard sued Bossland?
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Why would they care to fix something that most small-scale botters won't realize is a problem. I guess it isn't worth the devs time speaking in terms of benefits - time spent.

But I guess once, if ever, a better bot for WoW is released they'll be forced to start making changes. Since they pretty much have the monopoly, their product can be as crappy as they want.
 
Please stay on topic. This thread is not here for HB bashing, if you want to do that please create your own thread.
 
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