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good bye diablo botting :(

Are you going to stop botting once gold drops to $5/b

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We had a good run.

Congrats to the people who made thousands of dollars at the start.
I have only been going 24/7 on 4 bots for 4-5 months.


I know there are people with 20+ bots. What are you going to do with them?



it was enjoyable selling gold / finding upgrades my for main characters.

Now it wont be worth my time / cpu usage to make $40 a month after the patch.




Its been fun... enjoy if you decide to stay.
Other than that... im out.
 
We had a good run.

Congrats to the people who made thousands of dollars at the start.
I have only been going 24/7 on 4 bots for 4-5 months.


I know there are people with 20+ bots. What are you going to do with them?



it was enjoyable selling gold / finding upgrades my for main characters.

Now it wont be worth my time / cpu usage to make $40 a month after the patch.




Its been fun... enjoy if you decide to stay.
Other than that... im out.

if they lose enough people playing I believe they will return it to its original state everyone has just got to boycott it basically, same thing happened with the xbox one, and they changed within a few days of saying something completely different than what they started at.
 
if they lose enough people playing I believe they will return it to its original state everyone has just got to boycott it basically, same thing happened with the xbox one, and they changed within a few days of saying something completely different than what they started at.

well it was a stupid business decision to require 24hr internet connection and force drm in the first place, I would buy but i am a pc gamer lol
 
what? i only use gold to eq new bots.. item sell has been slow for months, so i reckon it won't be a major change for me. bot on till 1.09 and then bot harder
 
Gold was still selling at a decent rate at $0.25....they shoulda waited a couple more months to do this =(

Or raise the damn 2bil cap....=(
 
They wont, because they dont earn ca$h in the gAH. Its only to burn a tiny bit of a percent of all the crap gold on market. They want the ppl to use the Rmah and melk the cow as long as some crazy ppl playing this crap game...
 
They cannot change the 2B cap because this is a problem with the integer in the game.

P.s I'll continue until Blizzcon than after that i'll take 5 min to know if this is good to bot again or not.
 
They cannot change the 2B cap because this is a problem with the integer in the game.

like they can't fix that if they wanted.. lol. that was the problem that caused the gold-dupe and they fixed it. derico5 explained the exact reason why the 2b cap won't change.

also they don't give a shit about goldprice, they get paid 30% of the total $ volume that is moved via rmah. a low rmah-price is even good for them because that means ppl won't buy on 3rd party sites which leads to a bigger marketshare = more money for blizzard.

with todays change new floor price after fees will be 3,60?/$ per bil. the question that remains is - how long will it take to reach that price? supply and demand i guess. i think we agree that the demand is at an all-time low (the demand will most likely even be lower next week, the week after, next month and there are many months to come until patchday). i don't know much about the supply but even i, a small time botter, currently have 35b in stock that i couldn't get rid of before. our chinese friends will once again compete with whatever the current price on rmah is and undercut it, resulting in a nice spiral.

look it up - the last time, when they changed the 0,25$ per mil to 0,025$ per mil, it took 4 weeks to hit rock bottom. if the big player in this business consider it worthy to produce 1b of gold for 3,60$ i am sure we will see that price rather sooner than later.

at that price there is no way i will consider it worthy to continue botting. i will most likely bot on until next banwave (i've not been banned since decembers fiasco) and take a break after. maybe at some point there will be some money in this game again but the current state, profitwise, is rediculous.
 
disparity of income and forex is what dooms eu/us.

$0.50-1/m gold was extremely nice for us/eu. to 3rd world it was like being saudi princes.

$0.25/1m gold was still pretty decent for us/eu, enough to be happy and produce some nice income. to 3rd world it was still like producing weathly numbers.

$0.25/10m gold was pretty rough on us/eu, but you could still squeeze some decent numbers out. to 3rd world it puts them in the place of us/eu's position of $0.50-1/m.

$0.025/50m will render it almost useless for anyone other than fair sized us/eu farms and even they will take a considerable hit. the 3rd world farms are still producing wealthy numbers for their lifestyle/region.

This is in my opinion why the market will always fall until an eventual reset where supply cant keep up with demand for a period and prices rise again (patch day). the cycle will repeat itself infinitely until the game is 100% dead or bots are stopped (both doubtful atm).

Pretty much same principles apply in real life. It's just much better moderated and has tons of politics. It's the reason you can't build low/mid range furniture and sell it anymore for example. It's impossible to compete with the disparity.

D3 doesn't / can't impose import tax or sanctions. They have almost 0 control on the economy / prices other than banwaves.

Maybe they finally realized they can push small time botters out by destroying gold value. I am unsure however, if they realize that it also destroys the will to play for a great many players. $0.005/m gold gives me negative incentive to play the game manual, and I know a great many others feel the same.

Will be a rough few months, no doubt the hardest we've seen yet. All our hopes rest on a patch / changes around december, and all we have to judge it by is previous examples of their logic / creativity and they have both been shitbox terrible. I hope travis day has some big plans and delivers, but at the same time I have my doubts of the higher ups letting him do whats right.
 
disparity of income and forex is what dooms eu/us.

$0.50-1/m gold was extremely nice for us/eu. to 3rd world it was like being saudi princes.

$0.25/1m gold was still pretty decent for us/eu, enough to be happy and produce some nice income. to 3rd world it was still like producing weathly numbers.

$0.25/10m gold was pretty rough on us/eu, but you could still squeeze some decent numbers out. to 3rd world it puts them in the place of us/eu's position of $0.50-1/m.

$0.025/50m will render it almost useless for anyone other than fair sized us/eu farms and even they will take a considerable hit. the 3rd world farms are still producing wealthy numbers for their lifestyle/region.

This is in my opinion why the market will always fall until an eventual reset where supply cant keep up with demand for a period and prices rise again (patch day). the cycle will repeat itself infinitely until the game is 100% dead or bots are stopped (both doubtful atm).

Pretty much same principles apply in real life. It's just much better moderated and has tons of politics. It's the reason you can't build low/mid range furniture and sell it anymore for example. It's impossible to compete with the disparity.

D3 doesn't / can't impose import tax or sanctions. They have almost 0 control on the economy / prices other than banwaves.

Maybe they finally realized they can push small time botters out by destroying gold value. I am unsure however, if they realize that it also destroys the will to play for a great many players. $0.005/m gold gives me negative incentive to play the game manual, and I know a great many others feel the same.

Will be a rough few months, no doubt the hardest we've seen yet. All our hopes rest on a patch / changes around december, and all we have to judge it by is previous examples of their logic / creativity and they have both been shitbox terrible. I hope travis day has some big plans and delivers, but at the same time I have my doubts of the higher ups letting him do whats right.

They said they were mainly adding the patch to compete with 3rd-party sites, or maybe destroy small time botters too, but they still shouldn't have done that before adding any content to the game.
If they were trying to add a free-trade/market notion to the game, then they should have asked the community first not just fuking drop it down on us like out of nowhere.
Last time I checked d3face was still selling gold around $26.50, now its under 18 dollors. I don't get what they are thinking.
 
Even after few months since premiere, it was predictable that gold will earlier or later became worthless. What wasn't so easily predicted is that after one year market will be oversaturated with items, and blizzard will do virtually nothing to revitalize demand. That is probably because they have assigned all hands to console port, while pc section barely got skeleton crew which just maintain servers running. However, after dust settles with console release, there is a chance that this new item patch will revitalize market for few months, just like previous item patch did. They are also seems to planning implementing ladder, and if this feature wouldn't totally exclude trading, we will again be able to make decent money on d3.
 
Even after few months since premiere, it was predictable that gold will earlier or later became worthless. What wasn't so easily predicted is that after one year market will be oversaturated with items, and blizzard will do virtually nothing to revitalize demand. That is probably because they have assigned all hands to console port, while pc section barely got skeleton crew which just maintain servers running. However, after dust settles with console release, there is a chance that this new item patch will revitalize market for few months, just like previous item patch did. They are also seems to planning implementing ladder, and if this feature wouldn't totally exclude trading, we will again be able to make decent money on d3.

Ladder is just about the only thing that can/will save this catFUCKtastrophe.

I knew it would have to be implemented, as well as a great many others. The only other way I see it happening is the item patch also comes with better / larger gold sinks. The new items reset the old items and sinks would help with gold saturation. The problem with that is none of the casuals understand or like goldsinks. They almost had a gd heart attack with 100k repair costs when you get that regardless from pickup 3x over.

They could have waited at least another 2-3 weeks and raised the cap to 20m/0.25 and been fine for another 4-6 weeks. That would have gave them at least a little breathing room to stretch it out till december. Maybe they just got tired of fking with the cap and figured x5 would last 5x longer? Sadly that wont be the case =(.

Ladder >= added competition > game play improvements > items > big sinks. Hopefully they can do a few of those no matter the order they place them in.
 
A Ladder-Reset sounds fine, but isnt anymore in this fast running world. Iam doing D2-Items from beginning up to now, so i know exactly every reset. If you dont have a huge stock of money and time in background, a reset will only be work, but in the sum no money to win. Why? Its damn easy. Chinese farms are extremly fast and most of them are ready at the same time and push down everything on market then. So prices will go down every single hour. Between 1-2 weeks, maybe 3 weeks, the prices are back to last season. So, if you wanna make any win out of that scenario, you have to be very fast. But very fast means you need much ca$h to buy and equip your bots, because you only have a very small window open to make money. Or you go with the mainstream after prices slashed down to last season :)

Blizz only solution is to play few weeks POE and a bit GW2. Their markets are brilliant and the gold/item-inflation is nearly flat. So every side will make money and have fun. But that means blizz has to come down of their fu**** throne and pay more than just a handful of talented programmers and balancing-gurus...
 
Hey um, im looking for d3 account for playing. Not botting it. COuld some1 give me one?
Skype: kanatixl, maybe will make deal
 
I personally think people are ignoring the inevitable effect of expansions which will likely be very much akin to WoW expansion, increasing level cap, adding item stats and thus making current "world bests" sub-par/redundant/etc.. basically forcing a reset on the economy. Even if it's not as severe as a full reset, it will at the very least provide botting with an outlet for profit.
 
I personally think people are ignoring the inevitable effect of expansions which will likely be very much akin to WoW expansion, increasing level cap, adding item stats and thus making current "world bests" sub-par/redundant/etc.. basically forcing a reset on the economy. Even if it's not as severe as a full reset, it will at the very least provide botting with an outlet for profit.

I think that was their intention up until recently when they started to understand its not going to impact the gold price very much at all, which is what the game is built around. New BIS items will create $ opportunity from selling items on the RMAH but it wont help the gold AH very much at all nor the legit player base (both of which should be a huge concern for blizzard).

Right now it's pretty much boiled down to high trifecta's (nat/pox/rares/ik glove etc), 6cc mempos, and some select few weapons (high end ef's , rares,) that are out of reach of casual gold users that want to play the game as what it is ... a game. Can you imagine what will happen if gold continues to devalue or even hold its current value and new uber items are introduced? Right now the demand is low even for the high end items but they are still $ only items. Add in new BIS items with EXTREME demand or even mid tier items with extreme demand and they will have a high % of the new stuff listed only on RMAH.

I dont know about other people, but if I were playing legit .... I would definitely not enjoy being forced to use $USD to buy gear. There's a few options I see possible and likely to happen:

1) Gold AH limit raised by 10x or around to let casual gold users compete with $USD. This will at least let them have a possibility of buying the items w/o spending $USD but will not fix the situation prices / gold are in atm. A casual player has almost 0 chance of acquiring any wealth even if they play 12+ hours a day. The people that are wealthy in the game legit are the 1's that got there long ago before economy was totally fuked.

2)Ladders... reset every 6-12 months for fresh start economy every time and also allows huge sweeping changes to be made w/o effecting peoples current characters. Much like D2 or poe, they should roll all char's at end of ladder into legacy or non-ladder and that economy itself will grow and take care of itself. The people who want a constant, no changes, permanent economy can stay there ... and the people who enjoy fresh economies with new content or major game changes / balancing can play in ladder. It's the best choice I see possible, and I think they also see this now ... finally.

3) xpac introduces a fresh start. maybe even a new currency ... platinum or something similar. they could also let it be xpac only vs vanilla only with 2 different economies and would allow them to make huge changes w/o effecting current characters. They could also continue this model with future xpacs and just roll all the previous into vanilla servers much like ladder. Also a good option imo.

Thats my current opinion on the matter... I had like a 14 page rant below all this that I had to delete because I got into D3 hate rant mode lol. I think they finally understand that the wow model will not work in D3 and need to go back to Diablo roots and use what has worked for over a decade in some way or fashion.
 
I think that was their intention up until recently when they started to understand its not going to impact the gold price very much at all, which is what the game is built around. New BIS items will create $ opportunity from selling items on the RMAH but it wont help the gold AH very much at all nor the legit player base (both of which should be a huge concern for blizzard).

Right now it's pretty much boiled down to high trifecta's (nat/pox/rares/ik glove etc), 6cc mempos, and some select few weapons (high end ef's , rares,) that are out of reach of casual gold users that want to play the game as what it is ... a game. Can you imagine what will happen if gold continues to devalue or even hold its current value and new uber items are introduced? Right now the demand is low even for the high end items but they are still $ only items. Add in new BIS items with EXTREME demand or even mid tier items with extreme demand and they will have a high % of the new stuff listed only on RMAH.

I dont know about other people, but if I were playing legit .... I would definitely not enjoy being forced to use $USD to buy gear. There's a few options I see possible and likely to happen:

1) Gold AH limit raised by 10x or around to let casual gold users compete with $USD. This will at least let them have a possibility of buying the items w/o spending $USD but will not fix the situation prices / gold are in atm. A casual player has almost 0 chance of acquiring any wealth even if they play 12+ hours a day. The people that are wealthy in the game legit are the 1's that got there long ago before economy was totally fuked.

2)Ladders... reset every 6-12 months for fresh start economy every time and also allows huge sweeping changes to be made w/o effecting peoples current characters. Much like D2 or poe, they should roll all char's at end of ladder into legacy or non-ladder and that economy itself will grow and take care of itself. The people who want a constant, no changes, permanent economy can stay there ... and the people who enjoy fresh economies with new content or major game changes / balancing can play in ladder. It's the best choice I see possible, and I think they also see this now ... finally.

3) xpac introduces a fresh start. maybe even a new currency ... platinum or something similar. they could also let it be xpac only vs vanilla only with 2 different economies and would allow them to make huge changes w/o effecting current characters. They could also continue this model with future xpacs and just roll all the previous into vanilla servers much like ladder. Also a good option imo.

Thats my current opinion on the matter... I had like a 14 page rant below all this that I had to delete because I got into D3 hate rant mode lol. I think they finally understand that the wow model will not work in D3 and need to go back to Diablo roots and use what has worked for over a decade in some way or fashion.


man, ladder system would be so dope, to start every 6-12months to play would be great. They should do something like SC/HC and then some X (new ladder, racing) after 6months, you would get some bad ass shit if u were top 1-5 some pet/tittle/costume item on diablo so every1 would be jelly, some king reward from it, so blizzard would make money out of it and gold botters.
Restricting IP for chinese for US/EU would help, but yeah, *** :/ Blizzard doesnt give a shit about the economy, nor the game (d3) since they want only money. They got their profit from those d3 copies sold and shit since release, but damn. Thats just wrong to let that game undeveloped with some major changes.
 
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