[ItemRules2] Gnillers Super-Tight Loot Rules

[spitfireqt]

Because they roll shitty obv.

Impossible, with the gniller score set to 200, they would've been kept even if rolled shit

 

[darky13]

maybe bcoz you didnt get any to drop ... .but i guess its too hard to think about it or to check the junk log .........

 

[zorked]

If you use a new Item rule set you did not even create yourself you should supervise your bot a bit. Why do people always want to put nearly no effort in their machines? True enough, you don't want to spend excessive amounts of time on botting since the economy is crappy, but If you want something to work flawlessly, you've got to invest some time and knowledge yourself.

 

[spitfireqt]

If you use a new Item rule set you did not even create yourself you should supervise your bot a bit. Why do people always want to put nearly no effort in their machines? True enough, you don't want to spend excessive amounts of time on botting since the economy is crappy, but If you want something to work flawlessly, you've got to invest some time and knowledge yourself.

I spent hundreds of hours trying theorycrafting on builds and profiles, this is just not my field.

 

[Gniller]

4 bots running 1k iph, 3 days, all have only kept me weapons, gloves, amulets and rings, i did set the gniller's score to 100, than i tried 150 and 200, and they still never keep me a mempo or inna pants, exetera.

Any idea why?

Only 3 days of testing running just 4 bots would be called RNG nothing to worry about there if other stuff is stashed on the way. With those numbers i wouldn't expect more than 9 item stashed total for @GNILLERCONFIG 100. (and this is highly dependent on RNG).

Keep in mind i don't test specific config values, just the math behind them

 

[spitfireqt]

Only 3 days of testing running just 4 bots would be called RNG nothing to worry about there if other stuff is stashed on the way. With those numbers i wouldn't expect more than 9 item stashed total for @GNILLERCONFIG 100. (and this is highly dependent on RNG).

Keep in mind i don't test specific config values, just the math behind them

I did run your rules for more than a week with gnillerconfig 100, i tried to set it to 200 for few days, now it's the 4th day at 200, and it still didn't keep a single item that isn't gloves rings amulets or weapon.

 

[Nostran]

I did run your rules for more than a week with gnillerconfig 100, i tried to set it to 200 for few days, now it's the 4th day at 200, and it still didn't keep a single item that isn't gloves rings amulets or weapon.

Then it's a problem with either Trinity or your settings.

 

[spitfireqt]

Then it's a problem with either Trinity or your settings.

I saw that there are more than one ''@GNILLERCONFIG'' do i have to change them all?

 

[termitaCBR]

I did run your rules for more than a week with gnillerconfig 100, i tried to set it to 200 for few days, now it's the 4th day at 200, and it still didn't keep a single item that isn't gloves rings amulets or weapon.

So your stash isn't filled with Vigilance polearms?

Seriously though, it's probably just RNG (or some other bad settings that you might have). I set mine at 200 and it saves other item types than those you mentioned. I did, however, change my pickup.dis.

Question: is it possible to increase @GNILLERCONFIG somehow that it only affects weapons? Or maybe in the line:
@GNILLERWEP := ((([DPS]+(([CRITDMG%]+([SOCKETS]*100)+([LOH]/100)+([LS%] * 40)+([MAXSTAT]/4)+([VIT]/6))*[@GNILLEROSM]))*([DPS]/1000))*([@GNILLERCONFIG]/100))
to add "+ X" at the end. Would that make any sense?

I'm asking this because 90% of the weapons it stashes are really, really horrible even at 150 GNILLERCONFIG. I'm aware you only test with 100, but maybe you have a suggestion for this?

 

[Gniller]

I did run your rules for more than a week with gnillerconfig 100, i tried to set it to 200 for few days, now it's the 4th day at 200, and it still didn't keep a single item that isn't gloves rings amulets or weapon.

Without any technical information like logs i am not able to trow you any more specified information than "RNG"

I saw that there are more than one ''@GNILLERCONFIG'' do i have to change them all?

Nope just one, as stated in the installation guide. One to rule.. uh.. change them all!

So your stash isn't filled with Vigilance polearms?

Seriously though, it's probably just RNG (or some other bad settings that you might have). I set mine at 200 and it saves other item types than those you mentioned. I did, however, change my pickup.dis.

Question: is it possible to increase @GNILLERCONFIG somehow that it only affects weapons? Or maybe in the line:
@GNILLERWEP := ((([DPS]+(([CRITDMG%]+([SOCKETS]*100)+([LOH]/100)+([LS%] * 40)+([MAXSTAT]/4)+([VIT]/6))*[@GNILLEROSM]))*([DPS]/1000))*([@GNILLERCONFIG]/100))
to add "+ X" at the end. Would that make any sense?

I'm asking this because 90% of the weapons it stashes are really, really horrible even at 150 GNILLERCONFIG. I'm aware you only test with 100, but maybe you have a suggestion for this?

Technically this is really simple if you understand the math quoted

Just replace [@GNILLERCONFIG] in the calculations with the config values you feel appropriate with (having 100 being the default). My config is really no more than a multiplier of the calculation outputs, multiplying them a little different for different calculations

In your case, i'd go for only replacing the weapon config value with a number and leaving the rest to @GNILLERCONFIG 100 (this is fastest way, not the only right way). Example with weapon config on 200 below:

@GNILLERWEP := ((([DPS]+(([CRITDMG%]+([SOCKETS]*100)+([LOH]/100)+([LS%] * 40)+([MAXSTAT]/4)+([VIT]/6))*[@GNILLEROSM]))*([DPS]/1000))*(200/100))

Hope that helps with your questions, as i don't hope to go too much into technical stuff within the community forums to keep stuff simple for those that need it to be. anyway proper questions deserve proper answers!

 

[spitfireqt]

Where do i get the logs of the loots? I searched for them but i didn't find any, anyway, thankyou for the splendind work.

 

[Gniller]

Where do i get the logs of the loots? I searched for them but i didn't find any, anyway, thankyou for the splendind work.

That would be your trinitylogs>ItemRules2 log if logging is enabled in Trinity

Depending if the issue is located there ofcourse, it shows how the stashing and trashing was handled.

Look through them yourself before asking me to do this though, i am not going to read a full log looking for something that may not be there

Pasting the line in question with the item value of the item it handled would be good feedback! (If it is not already as it should be)

 

[termitaCBR]

Without any technical information like logs i am not able to trow you any more specified information than "RNG"



Nope just one, as stated in the installation guide. One to rule.. uh.. change them all!



Technically this is really simple if you understand the math quoted

Just replace [@GNILLERCONFIG] in the calculations with the config values you feel appropriate with (having 100 being the default). My config is really no more than a multiplier of the calculation outputs, multiplying them a little different for different calculations

In your case, i'd go for only replacing the weapon config value with a number and leaving the rest to @GNILLERCONFIG 100 (this is fastest way, not the only right way). Example with weapon config on 200 below:



Hope that helps with your questions, as i don't hope to go too much into technical stuff within the community forums to keep stuff simple for those that need it to be. anyway proper questions deserve proper answers!

Thanks a lot for the explanation!

 

[spitfireqt]

That would be your trinitylogs>ItemRules2 log if logging is enabled in Trinity

Depending if the issue is located there ofcourse, it shows how the stashing and trashing was handled.

Look through them yourself before asking me to do this though, i am not going to read a full log looking for something that may not be there

Pasting the line in question with the item value of the item it handled would be good feedback! (If it is not already as it should be)

Can it be because i've the game in italian?

 

[Trigun]

i have the game in italian too and in like 2 weeks i got 0 items with config=100
now i have deleted the logs in that way i can have a clean log from now ... (i switched from MP 6 to 8 and removed elites)

 

[quadrotony]

what this rulers will do with this item, for example?

It would be trashed

i sold it for 50 millions

so if you think it costs 800k and must be trashed YOU TOTALLY WRONG

this rulers NOT FOR US and only for REACH people WHO THINK 50.000.000 is trash

 

[Gniller]

i sold it for 50 millions

so if you think it costs 800k and must be trashed YOU TOTALLY WRONG

this rulers NOT FOR US and only for REACH people WHO THINK 50.000.000 is trash

Ah, this discussion again..

As you sold it for 50m (not the $150 you estimated it on originally) i'd like to refer you to the first post 50m is not ?5+ and hereby intended not to be stashed by my loot rules.

As for these item rules not being for people who want 50m items, not on default they aren't. My implemented config value supports this however.

As requested 3-4 times before now. Please leave this pricing discussion as it is here, i am not about to hear how everything i do is bad from you over and over. Please just make your own item rules as you clearly disagree with my vision in every possible aspect (if this sounds harsh to people reading the topic for the first time, read back on his previous posts).

 

[quadrotony]

okay... w8 i will find last selled items on RMAH


what your rulers will do with this, by default

 

[Gniller]

okay... w8 i will find last selled items on RMAH


what your rulers will do with this, by default

Did you even read my last post?

 

[quadrotony]

i read it

why you so mad? im just curious is this will be trashed too with GNILLERSCORE=100?

or you fear to tell for some reason