YourBuddy MoP BT - A warrior raiding custom routine

[tombot]

Nom -

I'm about to get my 4 piece bonus which is 35% additional crit when dps banner is dropped. Both Recklessness and Banner are on a 3min timer. I'm constantly looking for ways to line up CDs and increase dps. One of the things I've noticed is that the routine will end up staggering both Reck / Banner. With the new 4 piece set bonus, getting Reck / Banner to line up is crucial. I'm talking some serious dps. Is it possible to make sure this happens on time, both reck / banner popping and making it extremely constant? This is a dps loss if this is not done.

 

[KROKS]

lol, you still manage your CDs through the routine? Do it manually - you will receive more benefits.

 

[amputations]

lol, you still manage your CDs through the routine? Do it manually - you will receive more benefits.

Sounds like someone is forgetting he's posting on a bot-forum

 

[junkbordet]

Hi, I must be stupid but i cant understand how to open the setting gui?

 

[tombot]

Manage my CD's? ooooo-kay ... I guess with that logic we can just ask Nom to remove the cd management entirely, since, well, people can just manage them on their own. Right? Better yet, we don't even need this routine I suppose either, because, well, again, that is also something we can manage ourselves right? Actually, why are you on these forums? Can't you manage everything on "your own"?

I actually use auto cd's sometimes, other times I use a hotkey, other times I do have to manage them on my own. But that's not the point. Reck / Banner is a very powerful tool when constantly used together. Especially now with 4 piece bonus. It's a dps loss when these do not line up. So I am asking if we can get the automated portion of the cd management to line these two abilities up and with some level of consistency. There are a lot of fights where we lust off the bat and I or anyone else really do not need to "manage our cd's"

Your logic is not only flawed, it's silly. But seriously, it's these little improvements that will make this routine a stand out product.

 

[tombot]

@junkbordet just click the class config iron. But remember you actually need the routine added to the routines directory before you can manage the routines options.

Put Tyaerl into bots and this Warrior routine into routines.

 

[junkbordet]

@junkbordet just click the class config iron. But remember you actually need the routine added to the routines directory before you can manage the routines options.

Put Tyaerl into bots and this Warrior routine into routines.

Yea i got it. Thanks mate.

 

[nomnomnom]

here is the log, i think i did it correctly, i do have best 2handers equiped, and enchanted, will try your other suggestions, i am using tyreal , thanks again for your guys help to a new guy

Definitely wrong topic to post your issue. You use Dunatanks routine and not mine according to the logfile.

Have you thought about adding support for Arms, now that arms seems to be the best dps warriors atm?

Yes, and Arms will be added in a few weeks.

lol, you still manage your CDs through the routine? Do it manually - you will receive more benefits.

I can imagine that situational usage of CD's can have more benefit then the routine doing it. For instance the grey puddle at Jinrohk.

Nom -
I'm about to get my 4 piece bonus which is 35% additional crit when dps banner is dropped. Both Recklessness and Banner are on a 3min timer. I'm constantly looking for ways to line up CDs and increase dps. One of the things I've noticed is that the routine will end up staggering both Reck / Banner. With the new 4 piece set bonus, getting Reck / Banner to line up is crucial. I'm talking some serious dps. Is it possible to make sure this happens on time, both reck / banner popping and making it extremely constant? This is a dps loss if this is not done.

Catch me on Skype so we can tackle this.

@ everyone: I have been very busy last week(s) with work and personal life, and didn't spend much time in this routine. I'll push a update somewhere this week or at the start of next week with several avatar-related bugfixes again and implemented the latest SimC rotations.

Will also update the same in Pure.

 

[Dominowood]

Будем ждать очень нового релиза данной рутины.

 

[RownX]

mhm, why would I want to youse 4pc-banner and recklessness together? I got 35% raidbuffed crit, so almost every spell crits with recklessnes on, and so will with banner...
wouldnt it be better to use them aftter each other? for example first bloodbath+ banner, then recklessness?

 

[shm0]

dude reckleness increases crit rate. banner crit damage.

 

[daorigin]

springs set to always -- only pops on bosses ...

 

[tombot]

You shouldn't ask me, Simcraft it. There are people out there already with 4 piece that have simcrafted their gear and from the numbers I'm seeing, Banner / Reckless with 4 piece bonus is currently better than anything else / way you can do it. Anyone can arrive at these numbers themselves. Download your profile, download simcraft and run the numbers. Easy to do.

 

[xzibit]

aoe rotation sometimes uses "cleave", i wonder for what sense -.- ww should be the first and only option. pls checkout why this happens.

 

[Bu_Salamah]

also Dragon Roar should used after CS ! and bot use Dragon Roar then CS !!!

can you fix that , please !

 

[nomnomnom]

also Dragon Roar should used after CS ! and bot use Dragon Roar then CS !!!

can you fix that , please !

You are incorrect. Dragon roar negates armor thus CS has no use. You can better use an ability which actually benefits from the CS debuff, as Dragon roar does not.

Dragon Roar: 
Roar ferociously, causing 126 damage to all enemies within 8 yards, knocking them back and knocking them down for 0 sec. Dragon Roar is always a critical strike and ignores all armor on the target.

Dragon Roar - Spell - World of Warcraft

aoe rotation sometimes uses "cleave", i wonder for what sense -.- ww should be the first and only option. pls checkout why this happens.

AoE is already revamped in the new upcoming version. Few more days till release.

springs set to always -- only pops on bosses ...

Fixed in the upcoming release ... I hope. No way to test as I do not have springs .

mhm, why would I want to youse 4pc-banner and recklessness together? I got 35% raidbuffed crit, so almost every spell crits with recklessnes on, and so will with banner...
wouldnt it be better to use them aftter each other? for example first bloodbath+ banner, then recklessness?

2 different effects, read the tooltips on both and you'll understand .

(Reck increases crit rate, banner increases crit damage).

 

[jossa90]

where'd you find this?^^
Simulationcraft Results

I found this based on my own experience.
And simulations based on where my gear level is.
The one you posted, is based on "Best In Slot"
So, what you said there is like saying that Affliction warlocks is the best warlocks at the moment.
But that is only true, for a warlock with Best In Slot gear.

I normally play warlock/Druid as main character. So yeah, I did just PvP as warrior before. But I can manage to output higher dps, as Arms warrior than better geared arms and fury warriors.
As a Arms warrior my self.

But ofcourse I may be wrong.
And what I think, is not valid at the best in slot level of gear.
in fact, Fury gets better when you get up to iLvL 502 type gear. That is when Fury becomes the best spec. Until then, Arms is the best(based on my experience).

So I chose to test this on my warrior now. and got the following results at iLvL 485:
Time lapse 2 min(I know 2 minutes area bit short, wasn't patient enough for longer fights atm):
Fury 1h - 34 800 - With this CC
fury 2h - 45 600 - With this CC
Arms - 53 790 - With Singular
Arms - 61 299- Me playing

This was done with
2x One handers from Sha of Fear -for Fury 1h
1xtwo handers from Sha of Fear and 1xZerat Malakk's Soulburning Greatsword. - 2h Fury
1xtwo handers from Sha of Fear - For both the Arms dps tests.

Cooldowns were used in the start. exactly the same cooldowns were used also.
On Raiders Training Dummy
and only self buffed ofc.

Yes, and Arms will be added in a few weeks.

Wonderful

@jossa90

You are wrong. Arms is not the best spec for Warriors. And here lies the challenge. How do we get Warriors properly educated, not only about this but about their abilities as well. And if there are issues with spec's and abilities then you have to consider they might have their gems wrong, enchants, etc. Not all Warrior but you really can tell from the comments made and questions asked that a lot of Warriors are confused about the facts. And that's fine and all, play how you want. I know a few people that play WoW don't even enchant their gear right away or use lesser gems, cheaper enchants. Play how you want to play. But, if there is a Warrior out there who wants the best DPS possible. If you follow all the guides out there, get everything else you can possibly do that's right for your Warrior, then this routine will lead you to DPS records, I know, I have around 12 - 13 world records because of this routine, because I have everything done right, because I maximize my up time as well as line up my CD's as best as possible.

Then I would asume that you are at a higher gear level than me.
I found that Fury warriors did worse dps after the 5.2 patch. But ofcourse, I do not mind being wrong.
I can just base what I think on what I've seen and done.

 

[Krudtugle]

First of all thank you so much nomnom for this EXCELLENT TOOL! I love it already. haven't used it for raiding yet though, just tested on dummies etc.


It's true. at ilvl 502 Fury 1h is better than Arms, but ONLY if you get the 4 piece LFR T15 bonus. Without bonuses you need around ilvl 522 before Fury1h pulls ahead of arms (trust me, i've done so many sims on this subject and recently changed to Fury at ilvl 519)

One question though - and i feel awfully stupid for asking this: How do you manually use your cooldowns? I found the feature to disable the use of them, I also found a feature to hotkey "Enable/Disable" cooldowns and "Stop/Start Rotation" - Do you have to Stop the bot and use your CDs? If I turn them off and just use them ingame without alt-modifiers, I have to spam them to get them off, because the bot is busy using other abilities. Again, i feel so dumb for asking this for i'd like a easy and optimal way to use reck/dragon roar/skullbanner etc. myself since it a nuianse to have the bot use em on some fights.

I think you misunderstood him in regard to banner and recklessness above nomnom - The 4 piece Tier15 bonus gives 35% ADDITIONAL crit chance on Skull Banner, which means once you reach the 4 piece bonus, you are better off rolling recklessness and skullbanner rather than stacking them - That's what he wants a feature/toggle for.

For clarification: Battleplate of the Last Mogu - Item Set - World of Warcraft "4 pieces: Activating Skull Banner now also increases your critical strike chance by 35% for 10 sec."

 

[KROKS]

How do you manually use your cooldowns?

Simply. They're all offGCD, so u can press ingame button (without routnes' hotkeys) to use them as you want.

 

[nomnomnom]

I found this based on my own experience.
And simulations based on where my gear level is.
The one you posted, is based on "Best In Slot"
So, what you said there is like saying that Affliction warlocks is the best warlocks at the moment.
But that is only true, for a warlock with Best In Slot gear.

I normally play warlock/Druid as main character. So yeah, I did just PvP as warrior before. But I can manage to output higher dps, as Arms warrior than better geared arms and fury warriors.
As a Arms warrior my self.

But ofcourse I may be wrong.
And what I think, is not valid at the best in slot level of gear.
in fact, Fury gets better when you get up to iLvL 502 type gear. That is when Fury becomes the best spec. Until then, Arms is the best(based on my experience).

So I chose to test this on my warrior now. and got the following results at iLvL 485:
Time lapse 2 min(I know 2 minutes area bit short, wasn't patient enough for longer fights atm):
Fury 1h - 34 800 - With this CC
fury 2h - 45 600 - With this CC
Arms - 53 790 - With Singular
Arms - 61 299- Me playing

This was done with
2x One handers from Sha of Fear -for Fury 1h
1xtwo handers from Sha of Fear and 1xZerat Malakk's Soulburning Greatsword. - 2h Fury
1xtwo handers from Sha of Fear - For both the Arms dps tests.

Cooldowns were used in the start. exactly the same cooldowns were used also.
On Raiders Training Dummy
and only self buffed ofc.


Wonderful



Then I would asume that you are at a higher gear level than me.
I found that Fury warriors did worse dps after the 5.2 patch. But ofcourse, I do not mind being wrong.
I can just base what I think on what I've seen and done.

Those SMF and TG numbers seem quite wrong to be honest. I've been around ilvl 485 a week or 2 ago and I was pulling around 60 to 65k dps with TG at the raiders dummy. And that was with 2 LFR weapons from the 5.1 patch ... To diagnose I'll need a logfile. And you have to be absolutely sure that you use Tyrael as botbase, with LockSelector enabled.

First of all thank you so much nomnom for this EXCELLENT TOOL! I love it already. haven't used it for raiding yet though, just tested on dummies etc.


It's true. at ilvl 502 Fury 1h is better than Arms, but ONLY if you get the 4 piece LFR T15 bonus. Without bonuses you need around ilvl 522 before Fury1h pulls ahead of arms (trust me, i've done so many sims on this subject and recently changed to Fury at ilvl 519)

One question though - and i feel awfully stupid for asking this: How do you manually use your cooldowns? I found the feature to disable the use of them, I also found a feature to hotkey "Enable/Disable" cooldowns and "Stop/Start Rotation" - Do you have to Stop the bot and use your CDs? If I turn them off and just use them ingame without alt-modifiers, I have to spam them to get them off, because the bot is busy using other abilities. Again, i feel so dumb for asking this for i'd like a easy and optimal way to use reck/dragon roar/skullbanner etc. myself since it a nuianse to have the bot use em on some fights.

I think you misunderstood him in regard to banner and recklessness above nomnom - The 4 piece Tier15 bonus gives 35% ADDITIONAL crit chance on Skull Banner, which means once you reach the 4 piece bonus, you are better off rolling recklessness and skullbanner rather than stacking them - That's what he wants a feature/toggle for.

For clarification: Battleplate of the Last Mogu - Item Set - World of Warcraft "4 pieces: Activating Skull Banner now also increases your critical strike chance by 35% for 10 sec."

First of all, let me state to you that the cooldown lining-up has been drastically improved in the upcoming version for ALL specs (So BB and Avatar based talentbuilds). If you want to manually use the cooldowns, then set them to "Never" in the GUI. As they are of GCD, you can freely press them during a battle I believe.