Wow on a server .

[Sam0883]

Few questions , I have the ability to run 12 clients on my desktop but I don't wana burn it out running it 24/7 so I was thinking about a possible server investment. I want to be able to run 30 clients ideally.
First question , would you recommend 1-2 large powerfull racks or multiple smaller racks ?

Second question , what should I be looking for for my GPU ? I'm assuming anything integrated won't work for more than 1-2 clients .

Thanks for your time , if anyone has extensive info on this I'd love a PM , I can tip you in some BTC ( I can show you where to buy CD keys with BTC instantly)

 

[dario23]

I'm really intrested in this too.

i have tried setting up a server for botting but i never got the videocard working properly because its a server ofc

if anyone got a wokring build i whould love to hear it.

 

[Macatho]

Few questions , I have the ability to run 12 clients on my desktop but I don't wana burn it out running it 24/7 so I was thinking about a possible server investment. I want to be able to run 30 clients ideally.
First question , would you recommend 1-2 large powerfull racks or multiple smaller racks ?

Second question , what should I be looking for for my GPU ? I'm assuming anything integrated won't work for more than 1-2 clients .

Thanks for your time , if anyone has extensive info on this I'd love a PM , I can tip you in some BTC ( I can show you where to buy CD keys with BTC instantly)

Its much more economical and logistically better to just get more computers. Also then they don't wipe all your bots at once
You can buy a computer that can run 5 wows flawlessly for €200. You cant get one that can run 50 wows for €2000.
Also racks are extremely expensive, especially since you'd need the custom shit that fits graphics cards. Regular racks usually don't.

But in all honesty, why would you want to bot world of warcraft atm? Gold sells for next to nothing, bans around every corner etc etc...

And to answer your question about integrated graphics, a decent integrated can run 5 clients flawlessly. I got some 2500K processors which easily run 5 bots on its integrated gfx. And what's that? Intel HD3000?

Just don't get dragged into trying to make a living off botting wow, its not as profitable as you'd think. It's easier to just order popular products from china in bulk and sell them with a 200% markup.

 

[dario23]

well you are quite right macatho about the server its more like a fun thing for me than a good setup thing

Ofcourse botting is profitable even if i made $100 i whould be happy (i'm a student)

what else can you bot? wow i think is the only most profitable game to bot ATM

And dont forget thad the legion expension is coming

 

[Sam0883]

Its much more economical and logistically better to just get more computers. Also then they don't wipe all your bots at once
You can buy a computer that can run 5 wows flawlessly for €200. You cant get one that can run 50 wows for €2000.
Also racks are extremely expensive, especially since you'd need the custom shit that fits graphics cards. Regular racks usually don't.
But in all honesty, why would you want to bot world of warcraft atm? Gold sells for next to nothing, bans around every corner etc etc...

And to answer your question about integrated graphics, a decent integrated can run 5 clients flawlessly. I got some 2500K processors which easily run 5 bots on its integrated gfx. And what's that? Intel HD3000?

Just don't get dragged into trying to make a living off botting wow, its not as profitable as you'd think. It's easier to just order popular products from china in bulk and sell them with a 200% markup.

Well I have over 100 wow keys atm , ( not WoD) I plan to run 25 bots , 5-7 hours a day .

My idea is that with such a low cost per account , I can loose accounts with minimum investment . I have a theory that bliz is waiting for us to buy WoD / pay for a new month before they lay the ban hammer down .

Also what processor / amount of ram can run 50 instances of wow ? 2600k and 128 g ram ?

 

[Sam0883]

well you are quite right macatho about the server its more like a fun thing for me than a good setup thing

Ofcourse botting is profitable even if i made $100 i whould be happy (i'm a student)

what else can you bot? wow i think is the only most profitable game to bot ATM

And dont forget thad the legion expension is coming

Yeah with new expansions comes people willing to pay shit loads on the ah for all the new crafting mats .

 

[ryftobuddy]

I have a theory that bliz is waiting for us to buy WoD / pay for a new month before they lay the ban hammer down .

What a tired, worn out, worthless theory.

You do realize that not everyone's accounts renew on the same day, right?

You also realize that there's an average of 30.42 days per month, right?

So you have a 1 in 30.42 chance that you'll get banned the day after you renew. Times that by the number of botters currently out there and quite a few people are going to be banned the day after they renew.

It's a complete coincidence that you lose accounts the day after renewal, which can easily be backed up with math.

 

[Sam0883]

What a tired, worn out, worthless theory.

You do realize that not everyone's accounts renew on the same day, right?

You also realize that there's an average of 30.42 days per month, right?

So you have a 1 in 30.42 chance that you'll get banned the day after you renew. Times that by the number of botters currently out there and quite a few people are going to be banned the day after they renew.

It's a complete coincidence that you lose accounts the day after renewal, which can easily be backed up with math.

That may be the case for a sub renew , but has anyone tried going 24/7 for as long as they can on an account that's Not WoD I ran a group of 5 all in dungeons for almost 200 hours without any stops with 0 issues , Sheir dumb luck?

In the past I had 5/5 accounts banned the day I got WOD after heavy bottling over 1-2 months.

 

[Azhemoth]

Few questions , I have the ability to run 12 clients on my desktop but I don't wana burn it out running it 24/7 so I was thinking about a possible server investment. I want to be able to run 30 clients ideally.
First question , would you recommend 1-2 large powerfull racks or multiple smaller racks ?

Less servers. Get a stronger CPU. If you go with more servers, you're paying more for the hardware in which a better CPU could be doing more with.
And a rack solution wouldn't be what you're looking for honestly.
Rack servers were designed for enterprise businesses in which the servers can easily be hot swapped out if maintenance is needed.
Just get a standard tower, that way you won't have to worry about specific form factors and proprietary shit like Dell's annoying 5pin fan connector..

I personally run off of EchoTiger's infrastructure. He lets me use some of his servers which all run i7-4790k CPUs.
A single server handles 5WoW clients with Honorbuddy running at about 17% usage average. That's on low graphic settings with FPS capped to 20 on all the clients.
I never bothered to remove the cap so I don't know how much total FPS they could've potentially gotten.

Second question , what should I be looking for for my GPU ? I'm assuming anything integrated won't work for more than 1-2 clients .

GPU would be a waste for botting. You aren't going to be rendering anything demanding on low graphics - that and hopefully you'll have your windows sized down.
Get a CPU that has integrated graphics - all you need. Like I said earlier the i7-4790k handles 5 WoW clients with Honorbuddy running at about 17% usage, and that's without a GPU.

( I can show you where to buy CD keys with BTC instantly)

I think something like this is against the forum rules.
Just a fair warning.

 

[newguy2015]

What a tired, worn out, worthless theory.

You do realize that not everyone's accounts renew on the same day, right?

You also realize that there's an average of 30.42 days per month, right?

So you have a 1 in 30.42 chance that you'll get banned the day after you renew. Times that by the number of botters currently out there and quite a few people are going to be banned the day after they renew.

It's a complete coincidence that you lose accounts the day after renewal, which can easily be backed up with math.

Come on you can't possibly believe that!

Why wouldn't blizzard get another 15 bucks out of you before they ban you...that's smart business right there. How much money you think they make by waiting a week or however long till you renew...It happens more than it doesn't...I've read through the forums enough to know this...you should too

 

[ryftobuddy]

Come on you can't possibly believe that!

Why wouldn't blizzard get another 15 bucks out of you before they ban you...that's smart business right there. How much money you think they make by waiting a week or however long till you renew...It happens more than it doesn't...I've read through the forums enough to know this...you should too

Not only do I believe it, I can prove it...

The last 2 banwaves went out over 2-3 day periods. These were by far the largest banwaves blizz has ever done in wow. Do you really believe that all of the thousands of accounts using HB all renewed in that 2-3 day window both times?

It may be good business to do this, but it's impossible for it to be true.

Go into the ban forums, ask any of the people there over the first 1000 pages of ban reports and you'll probably find that close to 1 in 30 accounts was banned the day after renewal. You could easily back exactly what I said up with math.

I've had accounts banned the day after renewal...I've also had accounts banned 5 days before they were set to renew and accounts banned in the middle of subscriptions. Coincidence doesn't make things factual.

 

[newguy2015]

First off blizzard is a business...they will do whatever they have to to make money...its a smart business decision waiting until renewal... That's potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Secondly after the may banwave most people would have the same renewal date if they all renewed the day they were allowed to play which I did. So then they banned again in December which was exactly a month after everyone came back.

Do the math there and tell me that blizzard didn't make alot of money on renewals for those months...it was a sound business move...I'd have done the same thing especially when overall subscriptions are to there lowest point in years. Blizzard aren't fools they are in it to make as much money possible.. I'm sure they have business strategies in place for botters...no reason they wouldn't.

 

[ryftobuddy]

If you really want to test the theory and prove me wrong, go buy 31 accounts and 31 HB keys. Register each wow account on a different day of the month so none of them have the same renewal date. Even better, go buy 365 wow licenses and 365 HB keys.

Run all 31 wow accounts doing the exact same activity, 1 on each server. If Blizz bans each account the day after renewal, you may be able to convince me to second guess what I already know as a fact....Otherwise, as I stated before, coincidence doesn't make something a fact.

That's the last I'm posting about this matter in this thread. It's distracting from an actual, useful conversation that may actually help some people out...

 

[newguy2015]

Your opinion doesn't make it a fact either...why you can't see the money making aspect of it is beyond me...you aren't a stupid person....why wouldn't blizzard wait a extra week or two to make an extra 15 bucks? It makes more sense than them banning you at a random date

 

[Riddl3n]

Its much more economical and logistically better to just get more computers. Also then they don't wipe all your bots at once
You can buy a computer that can run 5 wows flawlessly for €200. You cant get one that can run 50 wows for €2000.
Also racks are extremely expensive, especially since you'd need the custom shit that fits graphics cards. Regular racks usually don't.

But in all honesty, why would you want to bot world of warcraft atm? Gold sells for next to nothing, bans around every corner etc etc...

And to answer your question about integrated graphics, a decent integrated can run 5 clients flawlessly. I got some 2500K processors which easily run 5 bots on its integrated gfx. And what's that? Intel HD3000?

Just don't get dragged into trying to make a living off botting wow, its not as profitable as you'd think. It's easier to just order popular products from china in bulk and sell them with a 200% markup.

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