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Wow Gold prices ATM

pimpampum said:
Your latest sentence has a serious issue; blizz is handling bans now differently to how they did in the past. Starting with 2nd? banwave, people were stripped of all the gold in their botting accounts. And if their chars were in botting guilds, all gold was removed and entire guilds were deleted.

After loggin in when the suspensions ended, those chars were guildless.

So, there's no evidence as to how Blizz is handling bans now. We'll find in 6 months or 18 months. What is known, is that their approach is changing.

About the "plenty of people". Yep, sir, plenty. Loads of people here. And the information is here in these forums, not only ( but also there!) in the ban reports, but also in threads created upon account retrieval.

I have spent ,as many more people, days, probably weeks, reading thread after thread upon years. I recall that information; you apparently don't, and you estimate that the information is not real. Well, you are wrong.

Trying to find those threads is your duty if you intend to be well educated in the matter; please don't ask someone else to do that for you.
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Just about everything you have posted is dead wrong...

There's not a single report, not one...I can show you 100 threads of people coming back from bans having all their gold stripped, and I can show you 100 threads of people coming back from bans without being removed from guilds and not a single thing in guild banks being touched...And I can remember 2 threads total since the day these forums were opened of people complaining about their guilds being disbanded.

Why do you think that there's literally 100's of posts on here telling people to store gold in guild banks? Is everyone just wrong or are you wrong....You've spent weeks on here reading threads, too...How have you missed all these posts telling people to store gold in guild banks if they want to keep it safe?

Blizz is NOT handling bans during a banwave any differently right now either. It's been the same old business that it's been for the last 2 years. And if you say they are, go ahead and show me how they are handling them different. 1 thread does not prove anything for a couple reasons: 1. it was not during a banwave. 2. it's extremely clear that a GM did a full on investigation into the account, which a normal GM will not spend the time doing.
 
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blewsclewsnews said:
Just about everything you have posted is dead wrong...

There's not a single report, not one...I can show you 100 threads of people coming back from bans having all their gold stripped, and I can show you 100 threads of people coming back from bans without being removed from guilds and not a single thing in guild banks being touched...And I can remember 2 threads total since the day these forums were opened of people complaining about their guilds being disbanded.

Why do you think that there's literally 100's of posts on here telling people to store gold in guild banks? Is everyone just wrong or are you wrong....You've spent weeks on here reading threads, too...How have you missed all these posts telling people to store gold in guild banks if they want to keep it safe?

Blizz is NOT handling bans during a banwave any differently right now either. It's been the same old business that it's been for the last 2 years. And if you say they are, go ahead and show me how they are handling them different. 1 thread does not prove anything for a couple reasons: 1. it was not during a banwave. 2. it's extremely clear that a GM did a full on investigation into the account, which a normal GM will not spend the time doing.
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Actually, they are handling them similarly. Same old, same old.

But the approach to small size botters is how they have been punishing in the past to large botters.

What have happened to gold botters with bans have always been that. The thing is, very rarely you will find a large botter posting about their bans on this forums anymore. If ever.

There are other places where these things are commented.

You are smart enough to realize that most ban reports are from people with few accounts. And you'll notice, with time, that those people who post 5/5 , 10/10 , won't post on ban reports anymore.

The ban patterns for small-size botters were less punitive. Now they aren't.



But you'll see for yourself, eventually. There's no point in further discussing this, when you keep asking me to prove something that cannot be proven unless you had the adequate resources, and will, to check.


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https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honor...8889-account-banned-guild-bank-disbanned.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/ban-section-ban-reports/119349-guild-deleted.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/archives/11361-blizzard-takes-gold.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honor...-banned-guilds-deleted-million-gold-gone.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/245699-question-gbanks-perma-bans-2.html


These have been found in 5 minutes. I'm not good with the search tool, you surely could do better.

Quoting Ryfobuddy the long time lost:

BLIZZ IS NOT, NOR HAVE THEY EVER BEEN, STATIC IN THEIR WAYS.

He was pretty inspired when he said that.
 
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pimpampum said:
Actually, they are handling them similarly. Same old, same old.

But the approach to small size botters is how they have been punishing in the past to large botters.

What have happened to gold botters with bans have always been that. The thing is, very rarely you will find a large botter posting about their bans on this forums anymore. If ever.

There are other places where these things are commented.

You are smart enough to realize that most ban reports are from people with few accounts. And you'll notice, with time, that those people who post 5/5 , 10/10 , won't post on ban reports anymore.

The ban patterns for small-size botters were less punitive. Now they aren't.



But you'll see for yourself, eventually. There's no point in further discussing this, when you keep asking me to prove something that cannot be proven unless you had the adequate resources, and will, to check.


EDITED to add some links:


https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honor...8889-account-banned-guild-bank-disbanned.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/ban-section-ban-reports/119349-guild-deleted.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/archives/11361-blizzard-takes-gold.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honor...-banned-guilds-deleted-million-gold-gone.html

https://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/245699-question-gbanks-perma-bans-2.html


These have been found in 5 minutes. I'm not good with the search tool, you surely could do better.

Quoting Ryfobuddy the long time lost:

BLIZZ IS NOT, NOR HAVE THEY EVER BEEN, STATIC IN THEIR WAYS.

He was pretty inspired when he said that.
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Ok, you found 5 reports in the thousands upon thousands of reports in the last 6 years...2 of those occuring in the last 2 years. That does not equal tons of people. And I don't see any of those that you linked to to have any relation to any banwave.

And Ryftobuddy was dead on when he said that Blizz is not static in their ways...But that has very little to do with the statements you've made...Which is the whole point I've been making since I started posting.

Blizz knows that blanket removing guilds is a terrible, terrible idea. I very highly doubt that they'll ever take a stance of removing guilds of botters. A HUGE portion of wow's popularity is because of guilds and what they accomplish. It would require too much man power to go back and review every account that's banned to see if a guild should be removed with a ban, and it would require manual investigations by real people or a shit load of time programming an algorithm to check for certain factors...That means more money spent by Blizz and less profit.
 
blewsclewsnews said:
Ok, you found 5 reports in the thousands upon thousands of reports in the last 6 years...2 of those occuring in the last 2 years. That does not equal tons of people. And I don't see any of those that you linked to to have any relation to any banwave.

And Ryftobuddy was dead on when he said that Blizz is not static in their ways...But that has very little to do with the statements you've made...Which is the whole point I've been making since I started posting.

Blizz knows that blanket removing guilds is a terrible, terrible idea. I very highly doubt that they'll ever take a stance of removing guilds of botters. A HUGE portion of wow's popularity is because of guilds and what they accomplish. It would require too much man power to go back and review every account that's banned to see if a guild should be removed with a ban, and it would require manual investigations by real people or a shit load of time programming an algorithm to check for certain factors...That means more money spent by Blizz and less profit.
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As I told you, there are lots of additional reports. I spent 5 minutes. How much did you spent? You said there was 1...


If you don't want to spend your time looking for the information, so be it. keep your blindfold on.


I don't make statements cause I can't. All I say is strictly based on my own opinion and the information available in this forum and other places throughout approximately 5 years that I've been botting.

But, on the other side, you, with this account created 14 days ago, with 36 messages, seem much more knowledgeable. Of course, you had another account and had been here forever, and have had hundreds of wow accounts. Anyone ever heard that?

You win. You know everything better than anyone. Let's not derail this thread anymore, which is about gold selling. That is fun; you should try sometime.
 
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The big question is if the WoW token will be able to be converted to battle.net balance who in the right mind will sell to Chinese people as middle men when you can reach directly to the buyer?
Currently the token is sold for 100k at EU which is 15 euro (1 month game time). 0,15 euro for each 1K.
Last time i sold to China i got 0.08$ per K.
Even if Blizzard decided to make the token worth 10 Euro when you convert to Balance and take 50% for them it is still 0.10 euro per K. Which beats China again.

IMO this is the middle man is gonna be cut and they are trying to get the most gold so they can resell when token is out.

Then again cashing out using token might be a death trap for every boter.
 
Soullinker said:
The big question is if the WoW token will be able to be converted to battle.net balance who in the right mind will sell to Chinese people as middle men when you can reach directly to the buyer?
Currently the token is sold for 100k at EU which is 15 euro (1 month game time). 0,15 euro for each 1K.
Last time i sold to China i got 0.08$ per K.
Even if Blizzard decided to make the token worth 10 Euro when you convert to Balance and take 50% for them it is still 0.10 euro per K. Which beats China again.

IMO this is the middle man is gonna be cut and they are trying to get the most gold so they can resell when token is out.

Then again cashing out using token might be a death trap for every boter.
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Still, bnet balance cannot be cashed out directly. We would be talking about D3 RMAH if it did ( Great times!)

The main service provided by resellers is releasing us from having to look for and negotiate with buyers. That is not changing, or am I missing a part of the picture?

In the past, these sudden drops in price were due to 1) dupes or exploits, 2) unheard news about the game, which they happen to be informed of sooner than us.

I think that, if the news about the token were the main cause of the price drop, this price evolution should have happened along all the time this have been known.

Interesting times ahead. Let's wait and see.
 
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What do you expect ?? that will accumulate 200k per day in one account and that the price will be $ 0.20 or 0.15$ ,It is $ 30 per day..I think it's time to grow up a lot of people on this forum.with their conspiracy theories and conspiracies..Just be real and all will be clearer
 
That's all fine and dandy except that all herbs on my high pop server are 20g-22g except starlight.
Ore is even worse 19g for Laystone...

Either i am doing something wrong but fencing 10 000 herbs every day tends to ban me for AH exploit.

hey @pimpam long time no see

I am considering buying games and selling them on one of the available sites. All i have to do is list they keys.
 
Soullinker said:
I am considering buying games and selling them on one of the available sites. All i have to do is list they keys.
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That is something I hadn't even think of.

Sounds like a good idea, actually. Unless the games or things are attached to the battlenet which balance was used to buy them, or something similar to that restricting their uses.

Btw, nice to see you back!
 
pimpampum said:
As I told you, there are lots of additional reports. I spent 5 minutes. How much did you spent? You said there was 1...


If you don't want to spend your time looking for the information, so be it. keep your blindfold on.


I don't make statements cause I can't. All I say is strictly based on my own opinion and the information available in this forum and other places throughout approximately 5 years that I've been botting.

But, on the other side, you, with this account created 14 days ago, with 36 messages, seem much more knowledgeable. Of course, you had another account and had been here forever, and have had hundreds of wow accounts. Anyone ever heard that?

You win. You know everything better than anyone. Let's not derail this thread anymore, which is about gold selling. That is fun; you should try sometime.
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Pimpampum taking the argument i didn't bother to take. Good points. :-)
 
EleGiggle said:
Gold will never be worthless, just the middleman will be cut out.
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I agree. The resellers are lowballing real hard right now. 0.04$ is simply not worth to bot for considering the risks. And that's probably because they've bought a lot of duped gold. Screw them I say. I started selling to private buyers at around 0.08$ now and doing fine. They can't compete with my prices so they'll either vanish from the market or lowball everyone to the point that everyone will go private.
 
What the resellers are offering..is a joke. like druid said about, 0.04$ on a high pop server? come on now...Hardest part is finding private buyers that won't scam you.
 
Druid07 said:
I agree. The resellers are lowballing real hard right now. 0.04$ is simply not worth to bot for considering the risks. And that's probably because they've bought a lot of duped gold. Screw them I say. I started selling to private buyers at around 0.08$ now and doing fine. They can't compete with my prices so they'll either vanish from the market or lowball everyone to the point that everyone will go private.
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Yeah.. I sold at 0.05 and 0.04 to get rid of some risk, but still.. It hurts.
How do you find the private buyers? Do you advertise in trade, or what? haha
 
Iceflare said:
Yeah.. I sold at 0.05 and 0.04 to get rid of some risk, but still.. It hurts.
How do you find the private buyers? Do you advertise in trade, or what? haha
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Asking around ingame is probably the most effective besides forums but easy to get scammed because they dont have a reputation.
 
EleGiggle said:
Gold will never be worthless, just the middleman will be cut out.
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Yes and no,
ive said almost worthless, not completly worthless obv

Im selling private btw
3 weeks ago i was selling around ~ 15 € / 100 k
2 weeks ago ~13 € / 100
1 week ago ~10€ € / 100

Now 8 € / 100. There is the "half" price that happend during this time

And it will go down even more. At one point it will stabilize, i think at 5€ / 100 k PRIVATE

Some people say there is a dupe going around, that can be a huge reason why, but what im trying to say is, when blizzard wont take action against botters ala mass ban them, the market will suffer. Thats why bans are necessary to balance the market.

The demand is also pretty low atm, sitting on millions of gold and growing every day. Thats another thing, private seller undercutting themself frequently till the price is on the bottomrange.

Theres much more, but im too lazy to write more.

I strongly guess that blizzard will going ham on botters around christmas / new year time, like last year. Even more aggressively when the modificated Token arrives.
 
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Problem is people are getting satuated with gear and they simply dont need gold anymore
 
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