Worth buying 2 more D3?

[wybjoker]

I currently have 1 d3 account, paragon 85 wizard. 200k dps unbuffed.

Is it worth me buying 2 more accounts and start from scratch to bot on? Would be investing that much gold on new gear for both be worth it? Was thinking of making a tempest rush monk and ww barb?

Would this be a good investment to make back or no?

My comp spec's i5-2500 3.3gig, radeon hd 6970 2gig, 8gig ram. Pretty sure it could run 3 d3 no problem.

 

[john88]

More bots = more money. Do it.

 

[eubot]

I currently have 1 d3 account, paragon 85 wizard. 200k dps unbuffed.

Is it worth me buying 2 more accounts and start from scratch to bot on? Would be investing that much gold on new gear for both be worth it? Was thinking of making a tempest rush monk and ww barb?

Would this be a good investment to make back or no?

My comp spec's i5-2500 3.3gig, radeon hd 6970 2gig, 8gig ram. Pretty sure it could run 3 d3 no problem.

So lets see . from a business standpoint

3 dbs = 59e , 3 diablos 110e , electricity another 50-60e , *** 20-30e in total = 240-250e

Now each bot will make u about 25-30m per day . there will be days with less or more so i say an average of 30m per bot per day . which means 900m per month x 3 bots = 2.7bil ( i doubt anyone can make a lot more then this )

Current rate is 0.12e per mil ( the real rate at which you can dump gold ) now you can wait for the 0.25e per mil ah rate for days and weeks if it sells but many of us think it will go even lower as the time passes because this patch was very bad

Revenues = 2.7bil x 0.12e/m - ah cut = 227 e so in the first month you are pretty much negative with 23e so you actually lose
On the second month you will make about 227 euros . from this you will have to make a reserve of another 110 euros to take into account bans so that you restart after a potential ban + the 23e loss from the previous month so the profit on the second month is 93 euros (And assuming gold prices remain the same)

You be the judge

 

[Qone]

i personally quit if there will be ban,after 2 month i can't see why i would buy another 2 D3 keys there is just no return from it waste of electricity i hope you guys will have more luck after ban and i hope it will balance out for you

 

[Mammon]

Qone, noob.

 

[ToeNisLubBer]

do you like to gamble

 

[Botishe]

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Iv got a pro tip for you, buy russian key, sale 30m on russian rmah and get 1k RUB for new diablo. So if you get banned you get a new diablo for 30m.

 

[plzdontban]

That math.. 60$ a month elec. to run 3 bots lol? I'd like to see how u came to that conclusion. You can also count on about half the number he gave. 650k an hour, a generous number as an average (downtime, maint etc) at para100(which u have to spend time getting to), will get u about 430m a month. The rest is item luck. From bans to items it's largely a business of luck. Excluding frequent and/or quick bans, each bot investment will end up positive for u. Also, try to be creative and think for a bit on your liquidation tactics. Converting to gems or selling to chinese at .11-.15 per mil is retarded. There are far more lucrative avenues. Anyways, tl dr, if you don't get banned too fast, more bots more money, and more chance at getting lucky.

 

[ooonsk]

So lets see . from a business standpoint

3 dbs = 59e , 3 diablos 110e , electricity another 50-60e , *** 20-30e in total = 240-250e

Now each bot will make u about 25-30m per day . there will be days with less or more so i say an average of 30m per bot per day . which means 900m per month x 3 bots = 2.7bil ( i doubt anyone can make a lot more then this )

Current rate is 0.12e per mil ( the real rate at which you can dump gold ) now you can wait for the 0.25e per mil ah rate for days and weeks if it sells but many of us think it will go even lower as the time passes because this patch was very bad

Revenues = 2.7bil x 0.12e/m - ah cut = 227 e so in the first month you are pretty much negative with 23e so you actually lose
On the second month you will make about 227 euros . from this you will have to make a reserve of another 110 euros to take into account bans so that you restart after a potential ban + the 23e loss from the previous month so the profit on the second month is 93 euros (And assuming gold prices remain the same)

You be the judge

that 2.6b per month you estimate is what you should make in 2 weeks with 3 bots,

 

[eubot]

That math.. 60$ a month elec. to run 3 bots lol? I'd like to see how u came to that conclusion. You can also count on about half the number he gave. 650k an hour, a generous number as an average (downtime, maint etc) at para100(which u have to spend time getting to), will get u about 430m a month. The rest is item luck. From bans to items it's largely a business of luck. Excluding frequent and/or quick bans, each bot investment will end up positive for u. Also, try to be creative and think for a bit on your liquidation tactics. Converting to gems or selling to chinese at .11-.15 per mil is retarded. There are far more lucrative avenues. Anyways, tl dr, if you don't get banned too fast, more bots more money, and more chance at getting lucky.

kids these days..provide arguments, figures or stfu
30m per day/average is both items + gold picked up by bots . 50-60e for electricity is very real if u run multiple computers and/or go 24/7 now u can't extract exactly the electricity but if that seems a lot fine but you will probably not go lower then 40e.
There aren't more lucrative ways . the price for good items in both gah and rmah is not random and generally they are the same ( according to blizzard's 0.25e/mil) .
Sure you can buy items from gah and sell on rmah but those don't sell unless you undercut retardedly which will get you close or to the 0.11 - 0.12 rate .

 

[eubot]

that 2.6b per month you estimate is what you should make in 2 weeks with 3 bots,

So you make 5.4 bil per month per 3 bots . which means 60m per day per bot on average . lies now its possible to make 60m per day and even more on good days but on average i highly doubt it !

 

[plzdontban]

Kids these days? Lol I'm a kid because you're an idiot? Multiple machines to run 3 bots? You run on first gen pcs in uganda? The same place ur apparently paying 35c+ kwh on a psu running max draw 24\7 with a 17inch crt to hit ur quote. Go google, "how much to run a pc", math is fairly straight forward. Also, no. I earn more than gold floor on my gold. I have no reason to lie nor to share exactly how. Call me a liar if you wish, didn't impact my day or sales. But if you are selling at .11 for any other reason than u have 30 bots to manage and just couldn't be bothered to micro manage - again you're an idiot.

Last 3 sales of yesterday were at .31per m btw

 

[Yamahaulin]

I'm working on a wizard mind sharing your build setup and gear as I have nowhere near that kind I'd dps.

 

[eubot]

i don't know what you do extra for gold/money nor do i care i'm simply stating facts while you on the other hand make me an idiot with no arguments .
As said before ignore these stupid kids

 

[LargeInt]

Each of my bots pulls somewhere between 500 mil and a bil each week I would guess, IF I can sell everything (generally I end up with a stockpile of 50-250 mil items until I can get them cycled through).

And electricity costs must be insane in Europe! If my computer was able to draw max power through my power supply for an entire month, it would only cost $45 (~34 Euro). In reality, it only pulls about half it's max power, or $22.50 per month (~17 Euro).

 

[plzdontban]

I just gave you facts and pointed out the inconsistencies in your statements; however, I am not interested in flame wars. Have a good day sir!
@op- a lot is rng. The guarantees from cost to income are easy to figure out. Only variable is ban time really. Even with 0 luck, time will put u in the black.

 

[eubot]

Each of my bots pulls somewhere between 500 mil and a bil each week I would guess, IF I can sell everything (generally I end up with a stockpile of 50-250 mil items until I can get them cycled through).

And electricity costs must be insane in Europe! If my computer was able to draw max power through my power supply for an entire month, it would only cost $45 (~34 Euro). In reality, it only pulls about half it's max power, or $22.50 per month (~17 Euro).

1. count only what you sold not what you think it's worth LOL
2. if i speak about euros this is obviously about eu . us, have no idea about nor do i care since i can't use the us rmah

 

[blista08]

So lets see . from a business standpoint

3 dbs = 59e , 3 diablos 110e , electricity another 50-60e , *** 20-30e in total = 240-250e

Now each bot will make u about 25-30m per day . there will be days with less or more so i say an average of 30m per bot per day . which means 900m per month x 3 bots = 2.7bil ( i doubt anyone can make a lot more then this )

Current rate is 0.12e per mil ( the real rate at which you can dump gold ) now you can wait for the 0.25e per mil ah rate for days and weeks if it sells but many of us think it will go even lower as the time passes because this patch was very bad

Revenues = 2.7bil x 0.12e/m - ah cut = 227 e so in the first month you are pretty much negative with 23e so you actually lose
On the second month you will make about 227 euros . from this you will have to make a reserve of another 110 euros to take into account bans so that you restart after a potential ban + the 23e loss from the previous month so the profit on the second month is 93 euros (And assuming gold prices remain the same)

You be the judge

If he's already botting, he's wasting money by not maximizing the amount of bots on his machine. He's already wasting power by running just 1 account and not more.

It takes 3-6 days (depending on if you hand level) to recover from a ban wave. The most expensive part is the initial investment with all of the DB keys + D3. After that, it's profit pretty quick.

 

[blista08]

So you make 5.4 bil per month per 3 bots . which means 60m per day per bot on average . lies now its possible to make 60m per day and even more on good days but on average i highly doubt it !

I'm making 400-500m per day PER 5 accounts. Entirely possible. Also, before you ask "how do you do it", that's on you to figure out. The more people that use my method, the less profitable it is.

 

[blista08]

I'm working on a wizard mind sharing your build setup and gear as I have nowhere near that kind I'd dps.

Hint: Don't use a Wizard. Extremely expensive to gear up ANYWHERE near what Monks/Barbarians put out in gold per day... DH are one of the best for GPH, but in my experience, that's only for NM/Hell Core runs (MP 10). I'm not interested in GPH anymore. I just want to pump out more items .