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i wonder if the nerf to grinding the same mob in the wild will apply to dungeon mobs as well. that would drastically reduce the ability to grind dungeons over and over
 
Cylan said:
It was my understanding that the bot would go offline, the moment 6.0 is released. The HB team would then have about a month to get the kinks out, make it attach, and have it ready for when WoD released. There will be no game changers or anything like that once WoD goes live, at the stroke of midnight those who pre-ordered new content will just be available, there would be no patch HB would have to work around again.. if that makes sense?

Correct me if i'm wrong.
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In essence, yes, but you still have to account for some possible changes that come when WoD does launch. There are also the numerous hotfixes and small patch pushes that will occur causing the bot to possibly break again. I'd say it's going to be a rough spot of time between the pre-patch, and possibly up to a month or two after the actual expansion. The bot could very well go offline several times, or maybe just once. It's not really possible to tell. But, I think the majority of the downtime will come with the pre-patch perhaps, because I think that's where a lot of the big changes are. I could be wrong though.
 
zeldrak said:
Actually, the combat routine developers are at the mercy of the Honorbuddy dev team getting HB up to date. The HB core devs will have to make changes to the HB API, which will in turn cause combat routine developers to have to go into their code and make changes to things calling HB's API and such. To be honest, nothing is going to work properly until HB is working with as few errors as possible. They have a version of HB that works with the Beta, but only certain staff members have access to the Beta build, and don't bother asking because they aren't giving it out to anyone except for those they pick themselves (the core developers, etc).

So, long story short, the routines and bot bases won't work properly until HB works properly. ;)
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That makes complete sense. Thank you! Hopefully it won't take TOO too long, but until then, it's playing the old fashioned way! *gulp*
 
I'm considering re-rolling a couple characters on a new, low population server in the next month and then paying the transfer fee to move them over to my main account and my high population servers.

Spending $60 to move characters to my main account is well worth not having to sit in a 2-3 hour queue every time I want to log into the game, at least while I journey to 100.

Botanist has pointed out that the WoD world will need to be meshed, I'm hoping that that has already been completed for the most part since Kick already has leveling profiles to 96. I also hope that they can get the WoD Beta client to the appropriate devs, like Botanist himself, very soon so we can have some amazing profiles in a month or so.
 
High Warlord said:
I would not count on any profiles or the bot having a whole lot of up-time between 6.0.2. well into after the launch of WoD. The most anyone could hope for is Singular working with Combat Bot/RaidBot so you can at least do the quests and dungeons manually.
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Why is that?
I've seen no posts about it from the staff and no reason it should take that long.
 
High Warlord said:
Sure there will be profiles available, but maybe the first level then the further you get into to WoD the more errors you encounter/lack of profiles. HB might be up pretty quick, but there will probably be a lot of hotfixes bringing it down again. I am just going by what happen in MoP and even in Cataclysm sometimes a minor hotfix took HB down for a day or two because it takes time to make sure it is safe. What I am saying is questing unsupervised or dungeons being automated 85-90 will not happen for awhile.

Nobody can predict anything and nothing is set in stone which is why the staff would not say yes or no which is perfectly reasonable. More often that not it is a matter of security and it can be time consuming searching through changes in offsets and whatever else there may be. If you're like me and rely on free rotations then you understand routines will probably need to be rebuilt for the most part because of how drastic the changes from this patch will be which is also very time consuming, developers can't really test a routine if honorbuddy is down.

It's very similar to the domino & snowball effect. WoW updates, HB must update and not just changes you can see but the ones you cannot as well such as Warden (developers of bot bases, routines, plugins, and profiles must wait for HB stability), developers must update once HB can attach to the process again even then the gap between HB working and your favorite routines or plugins working can be a lengthy one. Profiles can simply rely on Singular so the gap is bridged quicker.
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HB worked fine in MOP questing worked very quickly and so did most things.

And a new member doesn't have to explain to me about warden and updates.
I know that it depends on what blizzard does, but there's no reason to have a very negative viewing point at the moment.
We'll see what happens in the meantime we just gotta wait.
 
As time has shown, new expansions does not mean there will be warden updates. There hasn't been a major warden update in going on 3 years now. There may be constant bug fixes, but updates to warden are few and far between.
 
As long as lazyraider/tyrael are still working that's all I care about!
 
I want to play through the quests just as much as the next nerd - I DO NOT enjoy doing my rotation manually for hours on end.
I am hoping for some Enyo action at least.
 
ryftobuddy said:
As time has shown, new expansions does not mean there will be warden updates. There hasn't been a major warden update in going on 3 years now. There may be constant bug fixes, but updates to warden are few and far between.
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I am not sure how Patrick got onto a computer from Bikini Bottom, but there was about 6 weeks this summer where constant updates and secret warden push's caused tripwires 4 times ( if i remember correctly ), just because you don't hear about the updates does not mean they are not occurring. A new expansion does not warrant a new warden update, however, if the new expansion also coincides with a sudden verdict in the case against honorbuddy(NOT GOING TO HAPPEN), then warden may earn some new grounds for searching.
 
And by constant updates, you mean 2? Go ahead and take a look at Hawker's posts concerning Warden. We would have constant tripwire events if absolutely anything you said was true.

What would be the point of the tripwire if it wasn't catching these "constant updates" you speak of?
 
Tripwire is only issued when an update cannot be understood immediately as a threat or not. Then further investigation is done, not all updates require a HB update, just as not all HB updates mean a change in WOW.
 
I don't think you understand what a tripwire is, or how it works.

Tripwires are automatic, they are something that are reviewed AFTER they trip, not before. People don't initiate the tripwire, the tripwire itself triggers when a change is detected.

And once again, the tripwire has nothing to do with file changes (or updates) inside wow, it has to do with warden values. The bot goes down because the version number for wow changes, not because a tripwire event occurs. If a tripwire event occurs, the bot says a tripwire event occurs.

Maybe you should go back to watching Spongebob though and leave people to comment that actually know what they're talking about
 
ryftobuddy said:
I don't think you understand what a tripwire is, or how it works.

Tripwires are automatic, they are something that are reviewed AFTER they trip, not before. People don't initiate the tripwire, the tripwire itself triggers when a change is detected.

And once again, the tripwire has nothing to do with file changes (or updates) inside wow, it has to do with warden values. The bot goes down because the version number for wow changes, not because a tripwire event occurs. If a tripwire event occurs, the bot says a tripwire event occurs.

Maybe you should go back to watching Spongebob though and leave people to comment that actually know what they're talking about
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Maybe you should take a deeper look into understanding the tripwire and look into how the mods and devs explain how it occurs. It does not occur on every warden update, and never did I say it had anything to do with files (which technically every program is a file warden is just located in house on blizzard mainframe). There are specific values that have been set up to AUTOMATICALLY SEE if warden has the ability to view HB processes since they know exactly where and when HB may be vulnerable legally (or illegally by blizzard) and if any of those values change, tripwire occurs.

Just because they change the name of warden to watchdog, a tripwire does not have to occur. Changing the name will result in a file change, a data change, and a server update that pushes through to all accounts online and moving forward trying to log in. Since the name values in the FILE located on wow servers has changed and it is saved (updated on the server) the VALUES associated with warden will change, but the threat of warden will remain moot.
 
the problem is also that it takes longer to create a 99% afk questing profile then back in the days.
the reason is that blizzard now understand what "fun" quests are. back then you just had kill X amount of mobs or talk to person B
now you many more kind of quest types that all need there own costum behavior
 
brainAbuddy said:
the problem is also that it takes longer to create a 99% afk questing profile then back in the days.
the reason is that blizzard now understand what "fun" quests are. back then you just had kill X amount of mobs or talk to person B
now you many more kind of quest types that all need there own costum behavior
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You're wrong on this one actually, one of major announcements for WoD was that there will be much less "fun" quests that require special vehicles etc, huge majority of quests will be based only on regular game mechanics in WoD. (it is confirmed info, look it up :) )
 
Trust me there is a lot of quest that will be annoying to get working afk.. I did the beta 90-100
 
BotOperator said:
I will enjoy leveling one alliance and one horde toon manually in WoD to see the new areas, enjoy the stories and new content and to find out what makes sense to bot.
When I am done leveling from 90-100 I am sure enough bot content will be out to be used. In the meanwhile I do something really crazy. I WILL PLAY MANUALLY ;)
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Right I'm sitting over here shaking my head at people who want to bot to 100, but I actually enjoy manually leveling a couple of times to enjoy the new content and learning how to play it as well. Shit I paid $60 for the new xpac every xpac so I might as well enjoy it.
 
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