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Why are Kick's profiles shit?

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Sith said:
No disrespect to Kick, I use and enjoy his profiles, but I agree to a degree with the OP. I cant afk my feral druid for more then an hour on quest because it will get stuck or glitch. You guys who are afking 0-80 or w.e.... Bullshit. Or, what class exactly? Because I run into a endless loop, debug error, loading tiles error or some other random curve ball that will fuck up my game. No user error. Kick isnt "God" so he is capable of making mistakes, and even if the mistake is so small as my toon tryng to ravage while infront of the enemy for 2 hours, it still happens... And can be very frustrating but I digress. The misdirected anger of OP should be channleled into making whats "shit" better. Do something about it jamster. I posted logs of my glitches and bugs in hopes to see them fixed and no ones issue any longer. OP should do the same and not bleed everywhere.
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Yes, it's true, Kickazz isn't God. I'm sure he wouldn't claim to be either. It's just that his profiles are some of the best ones made that I've personally tried, so I hold his work in high regard. I know he updates very frequently when issues are properly posted as correct bug reports. There are some issues that his profiles aren't responsible for though, such as CC errors (like you used as an example of trying to ravage from the front, and not the back; CC error, not profile error). The OP is complaining that every error he/she's getting is because of Kick's profiles, and that's hard to believe. Mount and dismount isn't controlled by the profile, it's controlled by HB main, and only called for by the profile. The same with getting stuck at a FP. It's called by the profile and handled by the bot. I'm sure the OP is also having CC issues that may or may not have been mentioned in some roundabout way. I can see they're also having looting issues which has always been a problem with the bot, and nothing to do with profiles. So, instead of bashing Kick's work, which basically is only used to tell the bot where to go, what to kill, what quest to get and turn in, etc, they're having more issues with the bot itself.

And, honestly, all of my toons have been botted while AFK at least 90% of the time. I watch TV while my bot quests, grinds, runs archaeology, etc. There are places it gets stuck, sure, that's always been a problem with the bot not handling game objects like lamps, signs, fences, and such very poorly in its navigation. That's not a profile issue. Also, the bot doesn't handle blackspots very well, so again, not a profile issue because all you can do is put blackspots in a profile and hope the bot reads and handles them properly. The issues people have with these profiles is not caused by the profile or the writer of the profile. It's due to some sort of glitch, issue, bug, or just a problem in general with HB. The bot isn't perfect yet, and will take quite a while to be perfect. I don't know how long you've been using it, but i've been using it for about 6 years now, and I've grown accustomed to its nuances and quarks. I've learned to deal with the frustrations it can cause, and I've learned how to navigate around them and find obscure solutions, be it a plugin or backwoods dirty fix. Albeit, they OP was wrong for lashing out at something Kick has no control over, and KIck's profiles are great for what they are.

I forgot to mention that I have two hunters, a warrior, two DKs, a druid, a shaman, a warlock, a priest, a paladin, a rogue, and a mage. So, I have leveled at least one of every class from start to finish with the exception of my mage. I used a scroll of rezz to boost my mage from 20 to 80 because I despise leveling mages, even with a bot. They suck for leveling and are best suited to end game content. I've also leveled as human, gnome, dwarf, draenei, worgen, undead, troll, tauren, goblin, and orc. So, I *think* I've covered all races, and the only one I've ever had an issue with was worgen, That was back when they were first put in game and everyone was trying to make a worgen starting area profile. No other issues with any other races.
 
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dajinn said:
I don't know what it is with these garbage profiles but whatever the case may be this bot/profile pack is completely unreliable for away from computer botting. The bot is just always stuck on some trivial bullshit an hour or two after I leave which wastes time. Whether it gets stuck looking at a flight map on Azeroth or, or just standing still with no error in sight, whether it's "Waiting to dismount" and the piece of shit won't dismount even though it's 1 yard from the ground, or trying to turn in a quest it JUST picked up and not actually going and doing the quest until you stop the bot, move 20 yds away, then re-start the bot. Whether it's trying to loot a mob it hasn't even killed yet, if I move it closer to the random mob it's trying to kill the automation finally picks up. It's just fucking annoying. SOME STUPID things cause the bot to go completely haywire and just halt.

Can anyone recommend a good fucking questing profile that doesn't suck so much ass?
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So like, it's against the ToS of the game, we're all aware and it's like being part of a super-secret awesome club.... why the fuck would you come at someone like that in the super secret club? You think this is blizz? Retarded. I tried bitching in one post, got me nada. Here, you ask politely, that's it.

egit: As I am developing a profile myself ( a very large one ) I hope they come up with a way to keep certain people from grabbing them, cause I'm gonna follow your posts, and if they don't change I'll find a way from keeping you from using it as a great majority of the work is coming from previous profiles such as kick's to help me accomplish that goal.
 
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Well first of all you dont have the right to say shit things ob other developer, also say thanks god that there is a bot can quest like fanatic glider could not quest till its dead. The other thing kicks put so much effort on those profiles so thanx kick, keep in mind botting never 100% afk.
For me u kick is a great developer thanx again hope to see your profiles for mop soon
 
zeldrak said:
Yes, it's true, Kickazz isn't God. I'm sure he wouldn't claim to be either. It's just that his profiles are some of the best ones made that I've personally tried, so I hold his work in high regard. I know he updates very frequently when issues are properly posted as correct bug reports. There are some issues that his profiles aren't responsible for though, such as CC errors (like you used as an example of trying to ravage from the front, and not the back; CC error, not profile error). The OP is complaining that every error he/she's getting is because of Kick's profiles, and that's hard to believe. Mount and dismount isn't controlled by the profile, it's controlled by HB main, and only called for by the profile. The same with getting stuck at a FP. It's called by the profile and handled by the bot. I'm sure the OP is also having CC issues that may or may not have been mentioned in some roundabout way. I can see they're also having looting issues which has always been a problem with the bot, and nothing to do with profiles. So, instead of bashing Kick's work, which basically is only used to tell the bot where to go, what to kill, what quest to get and turn in, etc, they're having more issues with the bot itself.

And, honestly, all of my toons have been botted while AFK at least 90% of the time. I watch TV while my bot quests, grinds, runs archaeology, etc. There are places it gets stuck, sure, that's always been a problem with the bot not handling game objects like lamps, signs, fences, and such very poorly in its navigation. That's not a profile issue. Also, the bot doesn't handle blackspots very well, so again, not a profile issue because all you can do is put blackspots in a profile and hope the bot reads and handles them properly. The issues people have with these profiles is not caused by the profile or the writer of the profile. It's due to some sort of glitch, issue, bug, or just a problem in general with HB. The bot isn't perfect yet, and will take quite a while to be perfect. I don't know how long you've been using it, but i've been using it for about 6 years now, and I've grown accustomed to its nuances and quarks. I've learned to deal with the frustrations it can cause, and I've learned how to navigate around them and find obscure solutions, be it a plugin or backwoods dirty fix. Albeit, they OP was wrong for lashing out at something Kick has no control over, and KIck's profiles are great for what they are.

I forgot to mention that I have two hunters, a warrior, two DKs, a druid, a shaman, a warlock, a priest, a paladin, a rogue, and a mage. So, I have leveled at least one of every class from start to finish with the exception of my mage. I used a scroll of rezz to boost my mage from 20 to 80 because I despise leveling mages, even with a bot. They suck for leveling and are best suited to end game content. I've also leveled as human, gnome, dwarf, draenei, worgen, undead, troll, tauren, goblin, and orc. So, I *think* I've covered all races, and the only one I've ever had an issue with was worgen, That was back when they were first put in game and everyone was trying to make a worgen starting area profile. No other issues with any other races.
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Thank you for a very informative reply. You have refined my perspective and given me insight that only an expeienced player could. Much appreciated zeldrak.

PS: Now that I have a better understanding of CC and how it influences HB I should be able to make things run much smoother.
 
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Sith said:
Thank you for a very informative reply. You have refined my perspective and given me some insight only an expeienced player would have. Much appreciated zeldrak.
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It's no problem. That's what I mean. I've been using this bot for quite a while, and I've come to find out that certain problems aren't related to what you might think they are related to. The core of many issues stem from HB itself. It's an imperfect product that is constantly being updated and broken by updates. It's ever changing. You have to take it for what it is, and appreciate it. It's like a child. It's still growing and being "taught" new things by the developers (the botchild's parents, lol). You just have to be patient and push forward. Sometimes, you just have to take matters into your own hands, do something manually to get past a hiccup, and then start it again. It's just like life in that you have to be patient, you have to try and be proactive, and you can't just sit back and rely solely on the bot to do everything perfectly. It will always let you down if you think that. If you don't expect the world, then you'll most of the time enjoy the product you bought. Sorry, sometimes I get a philosophical point of view going and just type.
 
Leveled several shamans, hunters, warriors, deathknights and paladins from 1 to 85 with kicks profiles and some manual play.

1-58 I do mostly afk, maybe check in every 3 hours.
On the deathknight I do the starting area by hand, then go full auto.

59-70 in Outlands is a breeze, 100% afkable. Very few deaths, mostly in Zangarmarsh and Nagrand when the bot gets too close to enemy faction guards.
71-80 in Northrend, same as Outlands, except fewer deaths.
80-85 is where it gets tricky imho, the first few zones are easy, but once it starts on Uldum I stay very close to the computer.

I have tried leveling a mage and druid, however I find those very problematic when I don't have access to heirlooms, they just die ALOT.
But that is hardly the profiles fault. Thats more a class design and CC thing.
 
Heh i couldnt help you there I use Kick's profiles 90% of the time and they all work pretty great.
 
I dont usually respond like this, but your obviously a fucking dipshit. Kick's profiles are the best Questing ones around if I may say so. No fucking questing profile is fully AFKable for long amounts of time. Ive actually been able to AFK f or 4-5 hours at a time with the profile before returning or it getting stuck. Thats pretty damn good for a questing profile. No questing profile is AFKable I repeat. You need to learn your place and some fucking respect and maybe how to use the damn bot. There are Plugins and CC's your supposed to use to get what you want. So maybe learn your place and learn how to work it before you go and disrespect these profiles that are amazing and Kick spent hours on. Fucking dumbass.
 
May i suggest a blank profile and start coding?
 
Kicks profil is awsome use it now to level up my warrior. But in beginning i die alot! but them i chance CC and now i only have 1 death/3 hours. try to chance you CC :)
 
I will say this once and only once.

If you don't like somebody elses work, gtfo or make your own.
 
maybe you better think to stop botting if you dont know what you are doing.
im lvling my toons 1-83 totaly AFK! all Classes! at Deepholm it needs from time to time a hand when the toon need to sell or repair.

better a Mod stop this thread!
 
Bet this thread didn't go the way the OP expected.
 
As you can tell from the numerous post, Kick's profiles definitely aren't the problem. 1-85 needs 4-5 assist, in which case you should get a popup window instructing you what to do. His profiles are so good, no one else even attempts to compete with him. The more obvious problem is your lack of knowledge in configuring the bot/CC's/plugins. Rather than bashing a very productive and contributing member of the community (probably the best Honorbuddy has to offer) perhaps you would find your time more productive learning to use the bot, or better yet, write your own leveling profiles, which would be much better than kick's I am sure.
 
lets see your coding and try it out...sit down and make level profiles 1-85 and well see whose is "shit".
 
i guess we all told that we are not satisfied with his tongue and appearance.

if he seriously needs help, he should start a new topic, where he behaves like someone who needs help; post a log, post his problem.

we shouldn't continue here.
 
And as Kick has said repeatedly on these forums, he fully expects there to be the occasional problem with his profiles and he is quite happy to fix any we encounter.

However, he is not psychic and cannot tell what the problem you are experiencing is if you don't tell him about it and POST A LOG!

Actually, this applies to all contributors, whether it's the HB core, the bot bases, the CCs or the profiles.

The first step towards fixing a problem is to be aware a problem exists.
 
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