Which Barb set should I run?

speshulk926 · Sep 23, 2015

I have full sets of HotA (only 1 or 2 pieces not Ancient) and Wastes (all pieces are ancient), but I can't seem to run past GR50 on them. Either I die too much or I don't do enough dmg. Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? Any thoughts on what is easiest to get GR60 for achiev?

* means ancient:

HotA Set - Currently Using
Generic Stats (unbuffed, sitting in town):
1.2m Damage (3.1m+ buffed)
24m Toughness (35m+ buffed)
1.1m Recovery (1.6m+ buffed)
111 Fury
907k hp

IK Set :
*Helm - 960 Str, 6% crt, 15% HotA[reforge], socket (life gem)
*Chest - 570 Str, 630 vit, 15% life[reforge], 3x RA gems
*Gloves - 980 Str, 50% CD[reforge], 9.5% crit, 6% IAS
*Pants - 640 Str[reforge], 55x Vit, 122 RA, 2x RA gems
*Belt - 620 Str, 590 Vit, 125 RA, 1210 LPFS[reforge]
Boots - 480 Str, 430 Vit, 94 RA, 13% HotA[reforge]

Shoulders - Fury of the Ancients: 460 Str, 490 Vit, 97 RA[reforge], Furious Charge 11%
Bracers - Strongarm Bracers: 20% elemental[reforge], 410 Str, 440 Vit, 6% Crit
*Ring - Focus: 580 Str, 550 Vit, 50% CD[reforge], Socket (Bane of Powerful)
*Ring - Restraint: 590 Str, 590 Vit, 47% CD[reforge], socket (Bank of Trapped)
*Amulet - Countess Julia's Cameo: 900 Str, 7% IAS, 99% CD, Socket[reforge] (Taeguk)

*Gavel: 4110 DPS, 9% dmg, 1320 Str, 1420 Vit[reforge], 34% HotA, 25 Fury, socket (CD gem)

Cube: Remorseless / Furnace, Bracers of First Men, Unity

I'll post my WW set if you feel like it's necessary, but I have the 2 Ancient weapons and pretty much everything needed unlocked on the cube.

ridz89 · Sep 23, 2015

estoric alteration + remorseless!

andersaakre · Sep 23, 2015

And you should really use Ruby+Leorics when doing GR runs

speshulk926 · Sep 23, 2015

ridz89 said:
estoric alteration + remorseless!

Alright, I'll give it a shot. Should I get rid of Bane of the Powerful?

speshulk926 · Sep 23, 2015

andersaakre said:
And you should really use Ruby+Leorics when doing GR runs

Not sure if I was unclear, but I just wanted to get to GR60 while botting. Leorics + Ruby is not going to get me there. On top of that, it means I have to drop Restraint + Focus which loses me 100% dmg or drop Unity, which is going to get me killed.

Monk3y · Sep 23, 2015

Hmm maybe wrong setup of your skills? Im also running HOTA Barb with Grift 52 doing 35 billion exp/h. Using Leorics Crown + Ruby in helm.
I wouldnt use Taeguk, try using bane of the stricken

Monk3y · Sep 23, 2015

speshulk926 said:
Not sure if I was unclear, but I just wanted to get to GR60 while botting. Leorics + Ruby is not going to get me there. On top of that, it means I have to drop Restraint + Focus which loses me 100% dmg or drop Unity, which is going to get me killed.

60? I think with the bot u cant make a lvl 60 grift!!!

speshulk926 · Sep 23, 2015

Monk3y said:
Hmm maybe wrong setup of your skills? Im also running HOTA Barb with Grift 52 doing 35 billion exp/h. Using Leorics Crown + Ruby in helm.
I wouldnt use Taeguk, try using bane of the stricken

My skills are:
Furious Charge - Dreadnought (2 charges) - to apply Focus/Restraint
HotA - Smash
War Cry - Veteran's Warning
Battle Rage - Bloodshed
WotB - Insanity (100% uptime right now)
CotA - Together as one (50% dmg decrease)

The reason I quit using Bane of the Stricken is that I don't get permanent dps increase on adds and I still get 15% on bosses (35% instead of 25%). Was that a bad call?

pallonaama · Sep 23, 2015

Monk3y said:
60? I think with the bot u cant make a lvl 60 grift!!!

Atleast you can run easily 60+ grifts with WD, I have only ancient mojo/shoulders/boots/legs/ammy and doing 60 grift with bot, not wearing unity. No clue about HOTA barb tho.

lbb199 · Sep 23, 2015

Im using a ww/rend setup atm, it does gr55 all day long no problems afk with 7-8 mins remaining usually(depends if i get alot of arcance enchanted elites or not because the bot just likes to bathe itself in the beams), with assisting it using lazy raider feature i was able to do gr60. Once they add better avoidance and lamenation detection to double rend, the spec will do very well. Let me know if you want me to share my setup.

speshulk926 · Sep 23, 2015

lbb199 said:
Im using a ww/rend setup atm, it does gr55 all day long no problems afk with 7-8 mins remaining usually(depends if i get alot of arcance enchanted elites or not because the bot just likes to bathe itself in the beams), with assisting it using lazy raider feature i was able to do gr60. Once they add better avoidance and lamenation detection to double rend, the spec will do very well. Let me know if you want me to share my setup.

Yes, please because I already have most, if not all of the gear to get that working.

lbb199 · Sep 23, 2015

2pc wastes 6 pc ik(must use boulder ofc), whatever combo you have best for, strongarms, focus restraint, priority phys dmg/crit/crit dmg/rend% , all res gems, %hp helm gem. stricken/taeguk/pain enhancer. as much all resist as you can get without losing dmg. skills charge - merciless / rend - bloodbath / whirlwind - blood funnel/ war cry - veterans / cota - together as one/ wotb - insanity. cube is furnace/ lamenation/ unity.passives ruthless/boon/brawler/rampage follower templar with unity/wyrmward/thunderfury/ess of johan/freeze of deflection/freeze of deflection/enchanting favor relic w/ heal/loyalty/charge/inspire.

I have been editing settings to try to bypass the bot not recognizing lamenation to get it to rend more, note sure if its working, i think theres a internal timer that would require editing th .cs file. I need to test with yans in cube and see if it finishes faster or not. But this is what I am using for 55. I could do higher but I like to make sure it will not fail.

Just tested with yans just as fast. So i guess you could use whichever armor you want. Possibly leorics with red gem for xp if you can survive

speshulk926 · Sep 23, 2015

lbb199 said:
2pc wastes 6 pc ik(must use boulder ofc), whatever combo you have best for, strongarms, focus restraint, priority phys dmg/crit/crit dmg/rend% , all res gems, %hp helm gem. stricken/taeguk/pain enhancer. as much all resist as you can get without losing dmg. skills charge - merciless / rend - bloodbath / whirlwind - blood funnel/ war cry - veterans / cota - together as one/ wotb - insanity. cube is furnace/ lamenation/ unity.passives ruthless/boon/brawler/rampage follower templar with unity/wyrmward/thunderfury/ess of johan/freeze of deflection/freeze of deflection/enchanting favor relic w/ heal/loyalty/charge/inspire.

I have been editing settings to try to bypass the bot not recognizing lamenation to get it to rend more, note sure if its working, i think theres a internal timer that would require editing th .cs file. I need to test with yans in cube and see if it finishes faster or not. But this is what I am using for 55. I could do higher but I like to make sure it will not fail.

Just tested with yans just as fast. So i guess you could use whichever armor you want. Possibly leorics with red gem for xp if you can survive

Thanks! Will try it tonight and let you know.

speshulk926 · Sep 23, 2015

I haven't tried this, but you should be able to go into the Plugins/Trinity/Settings/Combat/BarbarianSettings.cs and change

Code:

[DataMember(IsRequired = false)]
        [DefaultValue(3500)]
        public int RendWaitDelay
        {
            get
            {
                return _rendWaitDelay;
            }
            set
            {
                if (_rendWaitDelay != value)
                {
                    _rendWaitDelay = value;
                    OnPropertyChanged("RendWaitDelay");
                }
            }
        }

to the DefaultValue being less than 3500ms

Edit: Another thing you can try to edit in the cs files is in Plugins/Trinity/Combat/Abilities/BarbarianCombat.cs:

Change:

Code:

private static bool _allowSprintOoc = true;
private const float MaxFuriousChargeDistance = 300f;

to this which will give you something to check against to see if rend should go off a 2nd time.

Code:

private static bool _allowSprintOoc = true;
private const float MaxFuriousChargeDistance = 300f;
private static bool _hasCastRendTwice = false;

Then change

Code:

 public static bool CanUseRend
        {
            get
            {
                if (UseOOCBuff || IsCurrentlyAvoiding || Player.IsIncapacitated || !CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_Rend))
                    return false;

                if (!CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_Rend))
                    return false;

                bool hasReserveEnergy = (!IsWaitingForSpecial && Player.PrimaryResource >= 20) || (IsWaitingForSpecial && Player.PrimaryResource > MinEnergyReserve);

                var mobCountThreshold = Trinity.ObjectCache.Count(o => o.IsUnit && (!o.HasDotDPS) && o.RadiusDistance <= 12) >= 3 || CurrentTarget.IsEliteRareUnique;
                if (!mobCountThreshold)
                    return false;

                // Spam with Bloodlust
                if (Runes.Barbarian.BloodLust.IsActive && Player.CurrentHealthPct <= .25)
                    return true;

                return Skills.Barbarian.Rend.TimeSinceUse > Settings.Combat.Barbarian.RendWaitDelay && hasReserveEnergy;
            }
        }

to this which should cast rend a 2nd time if TimeSinceUse is less than the rend wait delay and has energy and can cast twice and can cast rend at all. It will then check to see if the wait time is > than the 3500ms and set the variable back to false which will in essence reset it after 3500ms. So then every 3.5 seconds it should cast it twice. UNTESTED CODE, but syntactically, it looks correct.

Code:

   public static bool CanUseRend
        {
            get
            {
                if (UseOOCBuff || IsCurrentlyAvoiding || Player.IsIncapacitated || !CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_Rend))
                    return false;

                if (!CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_Rend))
                    return false;

                bool hasReserveEnergy = (!IsWaitingForSpecial && Player.PrimaryResource >= 20) || (IsWaitingForSpecial && Player.PrimaryResource > MinEnergyReserve);

                var mobCountThreshold = Trinity.ObjectCache.Count(o => o.IsUnit && (!o.HasDotDPS) && o.RadiusDistance <= 12) >= 3 || CurrentTarget.IsEliteRareUnique;
                if (!mobCountThreshold)
                    return false;

                // Spam with Bloodlust
                if (Runes.Barbarian.BloodLust.IsActive && Player.CurrentHealthPct <= .25)
                    return true;

                // Use twice with Lamentation
                if (Skills.Barbarian.Rend.TimeSinceUse < Settings.Combat.Barbarian.RendWaitDelay && hasReserveEnergy && _hasCastRendTwice == false && CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_Rend))
                {   
                    _hasCastRendTwice = true;
                    return true;                
                }

                // Set it back to False so we will double Rend again.
                if (Skills.Barbarian.Rend.TimeSinceUse > Settings.Combat.Barbarian.RendWaitDelay)
                {
                    _hasCastRendTwice = false;
                }

                return Skills.Barbarian.Rend.TimeSinceUse > Settings.Combat.Barbarian.RendWaitDelay && hasReserveEnergy;
            }
        }

lbb199 · Sep 24, 2015

I tried this and it does no combat at all =/

edit: must have typed something wrong, it is doing combat now after i redid everything. testing it now and will let you know the results

cant really tell =/ doesnt seem like it visually, seems to only cast it once

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