WE DESERVE A DAILY ANNOUNCEMENT

[smotan9900]

We deserve a daily announcement about the bot, what is the plan about it and and is it working at least. Do we need to wait some miracle to happened and receive a simple answer. There is no info about it for near a week and this start to get annoying until the other guys from another forum harvest there production daily without bans. Just release the auth with option to choose if we want to use it or not i am 37 years old i dont need to babysitting me, care about me just give me a option to choose if i wanted to start bot. Now we gonna miss that ban free window to recover our losses and few weeks after that another wipe coming which inevitable.

 

[LUTIY]

This window is there only because EB is down, look at ex prices, there is nearly no boters, compare to eb. Stop bitching, think with your head for at least a second, if servers will go up there will be immediate banwave because of thousands of bots that will start to lvl at the same time.

But daily anouncment would be great, cannot argue with that.

 

[smotan9900]

if servers will go up there will be immediate banwave because of thousands of bots that will start to lvl at the same time.

so your suggestion is server never go up = no bans right ? If you scare from bears dont go in the wood.

 

[LUTIY]

Okay, i understood. Not worth even trying to explain something to people who want bot servers up now, without changes.

 

[DontBeAfraid]

Okay, i understood. Not worth even trying to explain something to people who want bot servers up now, without changes.

server side pattern detection won't disappear by any changes. there is nothing that can be "changed" to avoid those bans.
So there's also no point to wait.
Also pushed even stated he does not work on anything. He waits for the big decision.

 

[uupiits]

server side pattern detection won't disappear by any changes. there is nothing that can be "changed" to avoid those bans.
So there's also no point to wait.
Also pushed even stated he does not work on anything. He waits for the big decision.

You can bypass server side detection with changes, doh...

 

[DontBeAfraid]

You can bypass server side detection with changes, doh...

well yes, but for how long? until tencent releases another million real quick to adapt and pull the trigger again.
that's what they're discussing and deciding about. if this cat and mouse game is worth it.
they already did and lost that fight with blizzard. tencent is 5 numbers bigger than blizzard.

Look at exiledbot. they did huge changes on behavior with their banwave on the 15.6.
lasted 2 weeks for tencent to adapt and wave them again.

 

[smotan9900]

well yes, but for how long? until tencent releases another million real quick to adapt and pull the trigger again.
that's what they're discussing and deciding about. if this cat and mouse game is worth it.
they already did and lost that fight with blizzard. tencent is 5 numbers bigger than blizzard.

You are stupid if you belive that there is a cat and mouse situation. There was long time ago were is only CAT. GGG lets us bot in some way but not too much. You see when prices and raitos go insane ban waves is triggered every time. Learn from history. Bossland can do nothing about it and we are botting only by the mercy of GGG. Before situation was the same but they was banwaved only new acc - Old one and MTX shielded was spare and left longer.
JSUT RELEASE AUTH DONT PRETEND YOU WORKING ON IT

 

[uupiits]

well yes, but for how long? until tencent releases another million real quick to adapt and pull the trigger again.
that's what they're discussing and deciding about. if this cat and mouse game is worth it.
they already did and lost that fight with blizzard. tencent is 5 numbers bigger than blizzard.

Look at exiledbot. they did huge changes on behavior with their banwave on the 15.6.
lasted 2 weeks for tencent to adapt and wave them again.

There havn`t been a single behavioral update for EB, maybe mouse smoothing and thats just one update, that was very recent.
Hb never had any anti pattern detection, all they tried to make sure about was if client is detected or not.

 

[pushedx]

Do you really want a daily announcement of "we're still discussing things", because that's the extent of public information we can give out in situations like this.

Even if Bossland told me I could talk about all technical issues and ideas we have, do you really want me to give GGG an exact roadmap of all the things they've not actually caught on to yet?

That's why things are vague in times like these and why we only post updates when there's something to update users on. Other than letting people know about patch progress on expansions, which can't really hurt us in any way, a lot of behind the scenes stuff is just not talked about, but that's the way things have always been. We do understand people are frustrated and just want to bot, even if it carries high risk, but there's a lot for us to talk about right now, so it's going to take time. We've consistently done things our way though, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

It's like every expansion with big downtime, people always riot for a buggy version that only does maps, and we explain time and time again why this isn't possible. This situation is different, but right now there's a lot of things we have to talk about, and I use the world "talk" as a generic action. We don't just sit around all day and flip a coin to decide if we should do something or not, things are always moving behind the scenes, but users don't/can't really know.

We are really sorry for the incontinence though, it would be nice if there wasn't a banwave, and people could still be happily botting, but that's just not the way things turned out.

 

[roneo1]

Do you really want a daily announcement of "we're still discussing things", because that's the extent of public information we can give out in situations like this.

Even if Bossland told me I could talk about all technical issues and ideas we have, do you really want me to give GGG an exact roadmap of all the things they've not actually caught on to yet?

That's why things are vague in times like these and why we only post updates when there's something to update users on. Other than letting people know about patch progress on expansions, which can't really hurt us in any way, a lot of behind the scenes stuff is just not talked about, but that's the way things have always been. We do understand people are frustrated and just want to bot, even if it carries high risk, but there's a lot for us to talk about right now, so it's going to take time. We've consistently done things our way though, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

It's like every expansion with big downtime, people always riot for a buggy version that only does maps, and we explain time and time again why this isn't possible. This situation is different, but right now there's a lot of things we have to talk about, and I use the world "talk" as a generic action. We don't just sit around all day and flip a coin to decide if we should do something or not, things are always moving behind the scenes, but users don't/can't really know.

We are really sorry for the incontinence though, it would be nice if there wasn't a banwave, and people could still be happily botting, but that's just not the way things turned out.

Appreciate you replying, but the question remains, why can't you just work on the bot/do what you want/need to do? While letting us use what is on the table right now? Also do you have any idea of how extensive the downtime is? Are we talking days or several weeks/months? Because at this point we just want to know what to do really.

 

[pilliwinx]

We do understand people are frustrated and just want to bot, even if it carries high risk, but there's a lot for us to talk about right now, so it's going to take time.

This situation is different, but right now there's a lot of things we have to talk about, and I use the world "talk" as a generic action.

Bot downtime for a few weeks confirmed.

 

[smotan9900]

This situation is different, but right now there's a lot of things we have to talk about, and I use the world "talk" as a generic action.

At least thanks for the answer and thanks for giving us meaning of the word "TALK" cose i really start to think that you was doing. Now i see i am wrong and maybe something is coocking. I hope so

 

[Urgent2009]

Appreciate you replying, but the question remains, why can't you just work on the bot/do what you want/need to do? While letting us use what is on the table right now? Also do you have any idea of how extensive the downtime is? Are we talking days or several weeks/months? Because at this point we just want to know what to do really.

Ahahahaha this is pathetic. So he comes here and writes a lengthy answer and your first question is this? Guys like you don't even deserve any notifications other than "TRUST US"

 

[Ghola]

Do you really want a daily announcement of "we're still discussing things", because that's the extent of public information we can give out in situations like this.

Even if Bossland told me I could talk about all technical issues and ideas we have, do you really want me to give GGG an exact roadmap of all the things they've not actually caught on to yet?

That's why things are vague in times like these and why we only post updates when there's something to update users on. Other than letting people know about patch progress on expansions, which can't really hurt us in any way, a lot of behind the scenes stuff is just not talked about, but that's the way things have always been. We do understand people are frustrated and just want to bot, even if it carries high risk, but there's a lot for us to talk about right now, so it's going to take time. We've consistently done things our way though, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

It's like every expansion with big downtime, people always riot for a buggy version that only does maps, and we explain time and time again why this isn't possible. This situation is different, but right now there's a lot of things we have to talk about, and I use the world "talk" as a generic action. We don't just sit around all day and flip a coin to decide if we should do something or not, things are always moving behind the scenes, but users don't/can't really know.

We are really sorry for the incontinence though, it would be nice if there wasn't a banwave, and people could still be happily botting, but that's just not the way things turned out.

I was waiting for such an answer. At least some information. At once it became calmer. Thank you PUSHHHH!

 

[BootyBOT]

Do you really want a daily announcement of "we're still discussing things", because that's the extent of public information we can give out in situations like this.

Even if Bossland told me I could talk about all technical issues and ideas we have, do you really want me to give GGG an exact roadmap of all the things they've not actually caught on to yet?

That's why things are vague in times like these and why we only post updates when there's something to update users on. Other than letting people know about patch progress on expansions, which can't really hurt us in any way, a lot of behind the scenes stuff is just not talked about, but that's the way things have always been. We do understand people are frustrated and just want to bot, even if it carries high risk, but there's a lot for us to talk about right now, so it's going to take time. We've consistently done things our way though, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

It's like every expansion with big downtime, people always riot for a buggy version that only does maps, and we explain time and time again why this isn't possible. This situation is different, but right now there's a lot of things we have to talk about, and I use the world "talk" as a generic action. We don't just sit around all day and flip a coin to decide if we should do something or not, things are always moving behind the scenes, but users don't/can't really know.

We are really sorry for the incontinence though, it would be nice if there wasn't a banwave, and people could still be happily botting, but that's just not the way things turned out.

Heh , as i sayd they are working on it , the sooner ,the better for everyone ,but still , we will all face another problem when thousants of boots start at once ,we will be wiped again , think smart everybody ...raise new accounts by hand as many as you need/can so when it will be live GGG wont expect you at kitava to ban you .

 

[pushedx]

Appreciate you replying, but the question remains, why can't you just work on the bot/do what you want/need to do? While letting us use what is on the table right now? Also do you have any idea of how extensive the downtime is? Are we talking days or several weeks/months? Because at this point we just want to know what to do really.

Devs need Bossland approval to do anything in these situations past take down the bot, because everything falls back on him in the end no matter how things turn out. He asked for the new version to be deployed last night, so it was. There's always downtime after any banwave though, so there's rarely any situation where any Buddy product is usable shortly after (barring the end of HB, but before that, it held true).

He sees the forums though, and we do understand sometimes people just want to suicide bot, but we can't be reckless under these situations since this is our product and we have a lot invested into it. We've always been this way though, and even with patch downtime, it drives some people crazy, but we're consistent in doing things our way.

Additional details about the current situation and our future will most likely come this weekend and if not, after this weekend. I gave Bossland a lot of information and comments about things, so there's a lot for us to talk about and work through. It just takes time to make sure we do the right thing for us, since once we make a decision and commit to it, that's our course of action and users will have to make adjustments based on whatever it is.

If you remember the first shutdown, everyone was on different pages, not much was talked about, then we ended up closing just to reopen a few days later with a gamble on our future plan of action. It worked out in the end seeing how far we got to this banwave, but we want to avoid things like that, so time is being taken to look at more things now carefully and.make sure everyone is on the same page.

We know it's frustrating and the uncertainty is terrible for a lot of people who are attached to EB, but hopefully people can understand.

 

[WiN]

that should go into the update thread - it will get lost here and it is very good.

 

[pocky]

Do you really want a daily announcement of "we're still discussing things", because that's the extent of public information we can give out in situations like this.

Even if Bossland told me I could talk about all technical issues and ideas we have, do you really want me to give GGG an exact roadmap of all the things they've not actually caught on to yet?

That's why things are vague in times like these and why we only post updates when there's something to update users on. Other than letting people know about patch progress on expansions, which can't really hurt us in any way, a lot of behind the scenes stuff is just not talked about, but that's the way things have always been. We do understand people are frustrated and just want to bot, even if it carries high risk, but there's a lot for us to talk about right now, so it's going to take time. We've consistently done things our way though, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

It's like every expansion with big downtime, people always riot for a buggy version that only does maps, and we explain time and time again why this isn't possible. This situation is different, but right now there's a lot of things we have to talk about, and I use the world "talk" as a generic action. We don't just sit around all day and flip a coin to decide if we should do something or not, things are always moving behind the scenes, but users don't/can't really know.

We are really sorry for the incontinence though, it would be nice if there wasn't a banwave, and people could still be happily botting, but that's just not the way things turned out.

you guys basically HAVE given daily updates. Don't answer these dumb kids.

 

[BootyBOT]

Most of them come on the forum and post and complain but they don't take 5 min to read other post to check out things . And you have to answer to all kind of stupid questions and lose precious time on forum instead of trying to fix the problem .