Hello guys! Was thinking how to save gold from permaban, but i dont know any methods. Previosly never thought about this because the first ban on each account was 72 hour suspension, but now they permaban them all. So guys, how do you save your gold? with guild banks or so on?
way to save gold (hard botting)
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The Guild Bank method
Hello!
I thought I'd offer up my thoughts on this. ^_^
First off, as above, have your guild master in a completely separate account from any of your gold botting/trading accounts.
Second, set up your guild ranks like this...You can name the ranks however you like, but set up the privileges like this...
Guild Master
Second GM (has maximum privileges in all tabs, gold withdrawal, etc)
Third GM (same as above)
4th, etc...however many levels you want. I use 3 and have found that I sometimes need more.
After your GM levels, create a trading rank that has no permissions except to withdraw max gold per day (100,000)
and finally, have an initiate level that has zero permissions at all.
NEVER HAND GOLD OVER OR MAIL IT!!! Your buyer needs to join your guild, you'll upgrade their rank, and they'll withdraw however much gold they are buying.
*NOTE* If you don't trust the buyer, make sure to withdraw all but the amount of gold they are buying from the guild bank.
*NOTE 2* This WILL cause problems if you're trading more than 100k gold, but there are workarounds to that! ^_^
This method creates the cleanest disconnect between your main/guildmaster account and your botting/trading accounts and, so far, seems pretty safe.
As a bonus tip, for those that are unaware, Blizz has, at some point, added the ability to take over an idle guild. When my last batch of accounts got banned ~8 months ago, I took a break. When I came back, my accounts that weren't banned were able to "dethrone" the old guildmasters and take over the guild.
Unfortunately, if you don't have any ties to the gold on the banned accounts, I don't think there's any way to retrieve it. (To answer your original question)
Hello!
I thought I'd offer up my thoughts on this. ^_^
First off, as above, have your guild master in a completely separate account from any of your gold botting/trading accounts.
Second, set up your guild ranks like this...You can name the ranks however you like, but set up the privileges like this...
Guild Master
Second GM (has maximum privileges in all tabs, gold withdrawal, etc)
Third GM (same as above)
4th, etc...however many levels you want. I use 3 and have found that I sometimes need more.
After your GM levels, create a trading rank that has no permissions except to withdraw max gold per day (100,000)
and finally, have an initiate level that has zero permissions at all.
NEVER HAND GOLD OVER OR MAIL IT!!! Your buyer needs to join your guild, you'll upgrade their rank, and they'll withdraw however much gold they are buying.
*NOTE* If you don't trust the buyer, make sure to withdraw all but the amount of gold they are buying from the guild bank.
*NOTE 2* This WILL cause problems if you're trading more than 100k gold, but there are workarounds to that! ^_^
This method creates the cleanest disconnect between your main/guildmaster account and your botting/trading accounts and, so far, seems pretty safe.
As a bonus tip, for those that are unaware, Blizz has, at some point, added the ability to take over an idle guild. When my last batch of accounts got banned ~8 months ago, I took a break. When I came back, my accounts that weren't banned were able to "dethrone" the old guildmasters and take over the guild.
Unfortunately, if you don't have any ties to the gold on the banned accounts, I don't think there's any way to retrieve it. (To answer your original question)
Hm, okay, and if i take gold by myself from the guild and sell it, so is it a way to get ban on selling account and the account which holds the guild? (The guys to whom i sell gold have their own guild, so they will not join my guild to buy gold)
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Well, it depends on the amount and frequency of gold trades. A few small trades here and there probably won't draw much attention.
What I would encourage your buyers to do, though, is to create a new character, which can join your guild and take the money....then they can leave your guild (or not) and mail the money to whatever character they need it on. Mailing massive quantities of gold between characters on your own account isn't a red flag...mailing or handing that same amount to a character on another account is.
Mind you, this is all speculation based on personal experience as no one really knows what Blizz uses to track or determine these things.
I really appreciate your help! nachoaverage
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You're quite welcome! ^_^
One last bit of advice regarding the guild stuff.. If your buyer DOESN'T leave your guild after the transaction is done, remember to demote them to the initiate level without privileges or kick them out of the guild.
Of course, if it's a buyer that you work with often and you trust, you can speak with them about leaving their access open so they can take gold when they need it and pay you. I have one buyer that I've worked with extensively that we have this arrangement...of course, HIS accounts get banned quite often, so it usually doesn't last very long
One last bit of advice regarding the guild stuff.. If your buyer DOESN'T leave your guild after the transaction is done, remember to demote them to the initiate level without privileges or kick them out of the guild.
Of course, if it's a buyer that you work with often and you trust, you can speak with them about leaving their access open so they can take gold when they need it and pay you. I have one buyer that I've worked with extensively that we have this arrangement...of course, HIS accounts get banned quite often, so it usually doesn't last very long
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I just work with a couple of resellers. I don't get as much for each unit of gold, but there are definite benefits.
Just do a search on some of the WoW specific forums. Most of them have a market/black market/WTS-WTT-WTB section where people can post offers.