[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

[usmarine6132]

I'm doing some farming in spire and when I have demonic using demonology, the only thing my warlock will cast is corruption. after that, he just stands there and lets my pet do everything else. Any idea how to fix this?

 

[Kevin8597]

You are actually wrong imo. Cataclysm is not for padding here. It does damage to all and applies Doom. We say padding when you dps useless adds or adds what would die fast anyway! In council fights, there is no such thing as "padding"! It is like expecting mages to play arcane...

Okay, if you want to use that definition of padding then I will say "cheesing" the meters. And arcane doesn't have cleave, DS / GoServ does

The reason I say padding / cheesing the meters is this. You are not doing what you "should" be doing for the fight, of course this depends on your raids strategy. The strat that I see everyone doing is DPS one, while cleaving the other two, then dps the next one while cleaving, then dps the next one while cleaving, then in p2 single target burn ( with minor cleave if you can without losing ST ) and repeat. What you are doing is just going AOE and basically shit single target, because lets be honest, Cata + GoSyn's single target is quite crappy. It isn't pure dirt, but it is nothing compared to GoServ + DS right now.

So for Iron maidens. If you go cata / syn you are going to gain what 4-5k DPS overall, and that dps is going to be on the targets that don't really need the DPS when you are dpsing them. Yes, at some point they need the damage done, but not at the time you are doing it, the time you do DPS to a mob is more critical then the damage you actually do to it, which is what I think you are missing here. This is even more prominent in P2 where you want the single target damage that GoServ / DS gives you.

Trust me, I agree that Cata will give you better numbers in the end, and for farm w/e go ahead who cares. I do it on LFR cause LFR is a joke. In progression though you need the damage on the right mobs at the right time, and you need that extra single target damage that you get with GoServ + DS. The additional numbers you get isn't worth that loss of single target damage when you need it on a progression pull.

Of course, like I said, this depends on your raids strats, if your raid does something different where you don't care who goes on the boat first, or you just aoe down the 3 in p2 ( is this a thing ? ) then it is w/e.

I have not seen any Cataclysm hotkey. Am I blind? :O

It is under hotkeys, right side.

 

[Kevin8597]

I'm doing some farming in spire and when I have demonic using demonology, the only thing my warlock will cast is corruption. after that, he just stands there and lets my pet do everything else. Any idea how to fix this?

Attach a log so they can check it out. Without a log it is hard to look into reported issues.

 

[noice]

I'm doing some farming in spire and when I have demonic using demonology, the only thing my warlock will cast is corruption. after that, he just stands there and lets my pet do everything else. Any idea how to fix this?

You may want to restart HB. It sounds like you switched spec and didn't close and open HB afterwards.

 

[usmarine6132]

I fixed it. Apparently you need to do a full honor buddy rest of you change specs. Even if you change in game and in settings.

 

[Rusty_Trombone]

I see a Cataclysm hotkey to the right, indeed, but I wonder how I stop it from cast it automatically (although I am ok with its timeing in general). Do I uncheck all conditions from the Talents tab?

One more question. I see the Archmage thingy buff from legendary ring but not the greater archmage one from the stage II ring in the Advanced tab. Shall I add it myself?

Also for some reason when it detects the greater archmage buff, it casts ToC (!!) till fury gets really low. I am not moving at that time. Why is this happening? (I used for speed the settings from niren buy for DServ/DServ.

 

[Kevin8597]

I see a Cataclysm hotkey to the right, indeed, but I wonder how I stop it from cast it automatically (although I am ok with its timeing in general). Do I uncheck all conditions from the Talents tab?

One more question. I see the Archmage thingy buff from legendary ring but not the greater archmage one from the stage II ring in the Advanced tab. Shall I add it myself?

Also for some reason when it detects the greater archmage buff, it casts ToC (!!) till fury gets really low. I am not moving at that time. Why is this happening? (I used for speed the settings from niren buy for DServ/DServ.

Yes , so you would have to disable the settings under talent, and then just use the mouse over macro. The only thing you don't have to disable ( becuase you can't ) is the form at which to cast. This is something you control when using the macro. I suggest you set a good setting for the delay on non movement keybind thing and if you need to be in meta to cast cataclysm you can go into meta on your own and then use the mouse over macro.

They are working on better automatic triggers for cata, but right now this is the best set up, and to be honest, I would probably prefer to just manually cast it on any non farm fight anyway as you just have better control and it will never be able to predict future events unless they code some super fight specific logic which would probably slow things down.

 

[dustinf16]

So I have been trying some of demo profiles on here out for raiding. And I just feel they are not doing well on AOE fights anyone have any settings or anything they can give me some help on to increase dps i am more than willing to donate for the time.

 

[dirpadirpa]

Firstly, this thing just rocks! I am doing very high dps for my ilvl which is great! Only issue i've run into so far is that when in Demon form, it keeps spamming Touch of Chaos over and over instead of doing soulfire. Is there a quick fix for this, i have been having a hard time searching on this forum... too many results for touch of chaos lol

 

[Shylari]

In most cases on Iron Maidens if the fight isn't on farm and its w/e go balls to wall, then you should go GoServ / DS.

Iron Maidens is a Cata/GoSyn fight- Cataclysm does a very large amount of damage AND spreads Doom/Corruption to 3 targets- there's no reason to not use it on Iron Maidens and it's not even in the same magnitude as "scumbag dps padding". There's only 3 fights in BRF where Service/DS is the way to go, and that's Gruul, Oregorger and Blackhand. Cataclysm is always a dps increase on fights with more than 1 target, always. Especially Maidens where you'll do north of 300k raw damage, and apply Doom 3 times in less than 3 seconds.

 

[Rusty_Trombone]

Iron Maidens is a Cata/GoSyn fight- Cataclysm does a very large amount of damage AND spreads Doom/Corruption to 3 targets- there's no reason to not use it on Iron Maidens and it's not even in the same magnitude as "scumbag dps padding". There's only 3 fights in BRF where Service/DS is the way to go, and that's Gruul, Oregorger and Blackhand. Cataclysm is always a dps increase on fights with more than 1 target, always. Especially Maidens where you'll do north of 300k raw damage, and apply Doom 3 times in less than 3 seconds.

Yes was telling the same but I did not say more since this forum is about the Routine and not strat. People can use whatever they want.

Anyone else noticed the problem with ToC spamming when leg ring stage 2 procs?

 

[Zenoriuss]

Hi Millz,

two things that caught me about the destro routine,
Bad handling with CB and DI buff, i set it to 3,0 embers and without DI to 3,8

"3,8 embers, DI 2 sec on cooldown and toon starts up to cast CB"
is it possible that the CR see that the cooldown is nearly rdy and ignore the 3,8 embers ?
another thing is, " aktivate DI cast 3 CB, than Incinerate and conflagrate up to 2 embers, DI is still running 6 - 7 sec but the CR dont cast another two CB

Second thing is uptime from Immolate, fight over 13,34M dmg on dummy and have an uptime from 69%

Thanks




View attachment Destro Dummy.txt

 

[fjante91]

[Demonic] Warning: The aura list on the 'Advanced' tab is empty. Load default settings.
HELP

The List is emtpy!

 

[Tiebiex]

go to advanced --> import from file --> aura xml ( in settings,demonic)

 

[fjante91]

Do you know how to fix this? "The class profile currently loaded is Warlock - Demonology, but the current toon is Warlock - Destruction. Please respec the toon, or select a proper class profile under settings before starting the bot."
When i change specc i caný use bot with it but it should support all 3 speccs.

 

[getmunch]

Do you know how to fix this? "The class profile currently loaded is Warlock - Demonology, but the current toon is Warlock - Destruction. Please respec the toon, or select a proper class profile under settings before starting the bot."
When i change specc i caný use bot with it but it should support all 3 speccs.

Thats not the routine.....thats hb change settings in hb config to the spec your using or disable roll/equip options.

 

[getmunch]

Iron Maidens is a Cata/GoSyn fight- Cataclysm does a very large amount of damage AND spreads Doom/Corruption to 3 targets- there's no reason to not use it on Iron Maidens and it's not even in the same magnitude as "scumbag dps padding". There's only 3 fights in BRF where Service/DS is the way to go, and that's Gruul, Oregorger and Blackhand. Cataclysm is always a dps increase on fights with more than 1 target, always. Especially Maidens where you'll do north of 300k raw damage, and apply Doom 3 times in less than 3 seconds.

I get the logic on both sides of this debate......cata is an increase till you push into p2(first 80%). But in the phase that maters its a dps loss on kill target. You burn each one down individially in p2 and using cata your single target dps aka on kill target is a lot lower then servitude.

And tbh fight is kinda a joke for first 80%. Last 20% is what matters.

On that note i have tried both specs and its a 5k increase overall with cata.

But when i was in cata spec raid leader bitched cause of low damage on torrents........so guess it depends if your raid lead is cool with releying on other range for burst on torrents and kill target.

 

[Shylari]

I get the logic on both sides of this debate......cata is an increase till you push into p2(first 80%). But in the phase that maters its a dps loss on kill target. You burn each one down individially in p2 and using cata your single target dps aka on kill target is a lot lower then servitude.

And tbh fight is kinda a joke for first 80%. Last 20% is what matters.

On that note i have tried both specs and its a 5k increase overall with cata.

But when i was in cata spec raid leader bitched cause of low damage on torrents........so guess it depends if your raid lead is cool with releying on other range for burst on torrents and kill target.

I am the Raid Leader, so without a case of severe psychological disillusionment I'll be okay.

Aside from Garan jumping all over the place, you're still able to land Cata on 2, sometimes 3 targets in P3- and even then, it's not a long phase (or shouldn't be) and you're only going to get it off once, maybe twice. The only reason I even mention 'strat' in this situation is because of DPS output and people's expectation that if they're numbers are low it's the routines fault and that's undermining Millz amazing work.

 

[getmunch]

I am the Raid Leader, so without a case of severe psychological disillusionment I'll be okay.

Aside from Garan jumping all over the place, you're still able to land Cata on 2, sometimes 3 targets in P3- and even then, it's not a long phase (or shouldn't be) and you're only going to get it off once, maybe twice. The only reason I even mention 'strat' in this situation is because of DPS output and people's expectation that if they're numbers are low it's the routines fault and that's undermining Millz amazing work.

I was refering to my raid leader not you btw. And im not undermining the routine of that is what your saying.

Im simply stating most important thing in p2 isnt cleave its killing torents+current kill target to eliminate a mechanic that the boss does.

90% of wipes are prolly on p2 so i guess if your raid lead is ok with gimped st damage when its needed then cata is way to go.......or of you have it on farm go cata also......

But for progression.... if shit aint dieing fast enough at end.......go servitude......its really that simple.

Me personally.......im going servitude cause i dont like be called out for low damage on what matters.

 

[Saltra]

Millz, thank you for this awesome profile.

I am trying to set up my own settings for each BRF Mythic bosses. So far everything is good but there is something that I am not quite sure how I should approach: Demonic Fury! I make sure to leave 200 DF gap but I am not sure what I should use for Cast and Cancel values. Could anyone give me an example or two based on some cases for these values?

For example, I use Cata with DS glyph for Hanz & Franz. My Cast value is 800 and cancel value is 595. Is this a good value for this fight? How should I change it if it is not? Since I use DS glyph, should I lower this value? I am simply totally clueless for this setting so I would appreciate any input. Thanks in advance.